Everytown for Gun Safety is the news now? That is like me saying "How About You Watch The News" and link NRA videos. I'm kind of sure your heart is in the right place, but you may not be knowledgeable enough on the topic.

Banning books is just terrible. I remember how angry I was when I turned 12 and could not buy Playboy. Stop Book Banning.

The four times as powerful as a hand gun round is true. True of ALL rifle rounds, not just those from the so-called assault weapons. The 5.56 round used in the AR15 is on the lower end of the spectrum when it comes to wound cavity creation. In many states the .223/5.56 is not legal to use on deer size game due to its relatively low power. The AK rifle round, 7.62 X 39 is comparable to the venerable old 30-30 lever action rifle which is not considered a "high power" round.
Your typical hunting calibers, 308 Winchester, 30-06 Springfield, etc., create devastating wounds. The .223/5.56 rounds in the hunting arena are considered varmint rounds for use on coyote, prairie dogs and other small varmints.

There are no book bans in Florida. The law prohibits books containing certain information the responsible parents consider inappropriate for children from being in libraries meant for children. Do you think it is acceptable to allow Playboy or Hustler magazines to be in a library for kids? Is their absence from children's libraries not book banning?

Since you like to quote the 2nd amendment of our constitution, perhaps you should read it completely . It also states that " The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" Keep meaning to possess. And bear meaning to carry. This was just up held by the Supreme Court.

You need to research the anti-gun organizations. They started out demanding the total prohibition of ownership of firearms by the citizenry. They only changed their message to banning certain "dangerous" firearms because a total ban didn't play well with most Americans. Their goal of total banning of firearms has not changed. A leopard can't change its spots.

The same needs to be mandated when it comes to voting in an election. Someone needs to vouch for the capability of the voter to cast an informed vote. Do you think a senile or mentally ill individual has the capability to make an intelligent decision? There needs to be a tougher background check to affirm the person is legally allowed to vote and insure they are who they say they are.

Weapons of war is scare tactic invented to make a certain firearm sound more menacing than it really is. The English long bow was a devastating weapon on the ancient battlefield where their use often decided the outcome of the battle. Clubs, war hammers, swords, and knives have all been weapons of war. Every type of firearm ever made has been used at one time or another as a weapon of war.

We are talking about weapons used today in the Ukraine-Russian war not about Agincourt. These are assault weapons and many other kinds.


And I kind of doubt that anyone would allow scythes attached to golf cart wheels like the thousands of years they had battles between chariots to go around here in the Villages.

I kind of think that is a false flag so to speak. In the sense that maybe that was the case when they started but they saw how impractical that would be.

We are a democracy. Idiots get to vote. There have been all kinds of abuses trying to keep people away from voting polls in US history. Usually people who were racially
and /or religiously different from those who controlled who could vote.

But we are not talking about weapons used in Ukraines war. Those weapons are Assault Weapons, they have the ability to fire single shot, burst of three shots, and full automatic. Hold the trigger and all thirty rounds go.

These statements are nothing but inane nonsense.

That is your opinion.

Look up the weapons used in the Ukraine-Russian war.

List of Russo-Ukrainian War military equipment - Wikipedia

Life in Prison for Fentanyl pushers and producers. The US loses 100 thousand citizens each year to Fentanyl. That is like the loss in a World WAR.

OK, I looked them up. What is that supposed to accomplish? I really think you simply do not understand what you are speaking of. For instance, I did not see an AR15 there? So then you are OK with AR15's because they are not used in Ukraine? If we want to be picky, they are using guns in Ukraine from the early 1900's. The list shows that a bolt action rifle from 1891 is being used in the Russia-Ukraine war. Outlaw it? Are you suggesting all guns being used in Ukraine should be illegal? Even the ones that are over 100 years old? Based on what? Because they are used in Ukraine. It is a nonsensical point of view. You have advocated making guns illegal if 1) they are being used in ukraine and 2) their muzzle velocity if greater than a handgun. That just about covers every rifle after Black Powder.

There are so many mass violence incidents that it is hard to keep track of them. And I would predict that it is going to keep INCREASING. The one that scalded me was in Texas by a man (illegal) that had been DEPORTED 4 times. And he came back 4 times, obviously. If someone is deported it means that a country does NOT want him in that Country. For coming back from deportation a judge should give him 5 years in prison. So, for him to keep coming g back, that SHOULD take 20 years out of his life.
.......Personally, if I am going to be shot dead by some nutcase, I would MUCH prefer that I was shot by a REAL US CITIZEN nutcase, not an illegal. That would be TOO GREAT of an INSULT!!!!!!!

It seems to me that when bad guys have guns and good guys have guns, that the bad guys STILL have a BIG advantage over the good guys. Just like in basketball or football, the OFFENSE has the advantage over the defense because the offense (bad guys) control the situation........like when and where they are going to STRIKE. THE DEFENSE (good guys) is always REACTING to the offense. So, they're often a few steps behind.
......When a bad guy commits a crime, it is called an offense. Maybe a coincidence, but just like a football team's offense, the bad guys call the plays and know WHEN the ball is snapped.
.......That's why the bad guys have the EDGE. So, it does NOT matter if the good guys have lots of guns like in the US or FEWER guns like in England or Australia.

Many of these mass shooters and/or killers look to be mentally ill and are trying to get shot by law enforcement. So the death penalty would not be much of a deterrent as brought up by another poster.

I recall a deranged woman in Reno, Nevada running down people in her car. That made news for a long time. Sadly these events have become almost a daily occurrence. Priscilla Ford - Wikipedia

Victims identified in deadly car ramming near downtown Reno homeless shelter | KRNV And I had not even heard of this of man running down pedestrians last month in Reno, Nevada.

It seems like the US is at WAR with ITSELf. It seems that we need NEW TOOLS against drugs, gangs, and cartels. I suggested patrolling DRONES overhead around The Villages..........and people FREAKED OUT........saying that something like that would be too "Big Brother" and would somehow hurt the independent individuality of the average Village resident. The problem is that the THREAT of drugs, gangs, and cartels is so MUCH of a greater PROBLEM that a few Village residents getting their feelings hurt. They are going to be PHYSICALLY hurt if the Villages does NOT hire enough POLICE to keep things here safe.
.......So, that is why new technology involving stationary cameras and cameras on DRONES are needed to keep the "BAD GUYS" at bay.

They love throwing out propaganda, book bans, don't say gay, assault rifles, clueless nonsense repeated over and over

Banning books in libraries is ridiculous. The parents can control to a certain extent which books they read at home by not getting those books from a library. And once you tell a teen they cannot do something that usually ends in them doing just that. Especially when the arts are concerned. Elvis for instance and his music for another group of teens.

There are no books banned in Florida. You can go buy whatever you want and read it. There are books and learning materials that are not allowed in our public schools in Florida. See the difference?

and that is LIE.

Joe Biden Says 9mm Bullet 'Blows The Lung Out of The Body'

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I have a bridge to sell you....

I agree, in a Public Library. I believe the books were pulled from the elementary school library.

What society needs are more guns - not! Isn't it "great" that we live in Florida with open carry and doing away with concealed weapons permits. Is this really the State of freedom? Shouldn't we be free from gun violence! How about banning books and doing away with the teaching of true, factual history! Feels like going down a slippery slope, like Germany in the 1930's.

There is no open carry in FL.

In the 1930's the NAZI government banned private ownership of firearms. Notice how well that worked out for the Jewish population.

We already have entered the era of government surveillance. Walking down Manhattan streets you are one multiple cameras at any one time, some with facial recognition. There are sniffers inside corner posts checking for explosives or radioactive materials as you pass. I have an office on a small barrier island on the west coast of Fl.. At both ends there are license plate readers. If the driver has anything from a warrant to an unpaid ticket, it alerts the island police. Easy Pass: twenty years ago (turn of the century) a man was missing in NY. He left the office but never returned home to his wife in Bergen County NJ. Police were able to track him down using the easy pass; and not just at toll booths but through readers placed intermittently along roadways. As for being at war with itself, we are not being honest with ourselves. The countries most cited by the right and the left as safe, clean, caring for its population, are homogenous countries (Japan the Nordic Countries). Perhaps diversity as it is practiced in 2023 is not a strength.

"Not allowed in public schools" usually means also in public school libraries. Which means a book ban.

Actually read the article.

How is anyone going to clear out all the guns in the US? Cannot be done in any way, shape or form!

Let's get real here. Weapons designed for battlefields are being used to attack parades, movie theater audiences, schools, churches, banks, work locations, and other places here in the United States. There should be fewer ways for these to be purchased. There have been more shootings per day in the US in 2023 as there are days so far.

I've said this many times before, we have a VIOLENCE problem in this country. Until we recognize that and address the problem nothing is going to change. If a person is intent on committing violent acts and a gun isn't available they will find another way to cause mayhem. Does a kitchen pressure cooker bomb filled with black powder taken from fireworks ring a bell? How about using a motor vehicle to mow down people on the street, does that ring a bell? How come there isn't a movement to control who can and can't purchase a pressure cooker or a motor vehicle? The tool isn't the problem, violent people are the problem.

What is the basis for that statement? How many times has that happened? Many? - it happens occasionally I suppose but I can't really recall reading about it more than a few times in my lifetime.

I did read recently about the youth who was shot because he knocked on the wrong door.

We're thought about having a gun in the house. However don't really seeing us being the winner in a shoot-out.

It happens all the time. About a week ago a tenant with brain damage for whom a local charity rents a unit at a self storage facility in Albuquerque, NM threatened the female site manager with a baseball bat and a knife. She immediately called 911 but he continued to threaten her. She finally pulled out a gun to defend herself and he took off. It took the city police 40 minutes to get there. He could/would have beat her to death and/or sliced her up and scrammed long before any cops arrived. Good thing she had the gun in her desk drawer!

I compiled a list of lies spouted (intentionally or out of ignorance) by certain individuals in this short thread for anyone who is following:
1. AK rifles “are for obliterating an enemy in war.” (Only single-fire AK’s are legal to possess. No army would intentionally go to war with single-fire weapons if they had a choice. AK’s used in war are 3-shot burst and automatic capable.)
2. The 2nd amendment was intended to apply to people in a well-regulated militia, “not free for all of all weapons by anybody who wants one.” And The 2nd Amendment is about a well regulated militia and not the right of private citizens to have weapons designed for warfare.
3. The NRA was “historically about gun control.” (deleted text copied from an article to avoid getting TOTV in trouble)
4. “The Founding Fathers had read a lot of English history and did not want private armies around that would march on Parliament.” The founding fathers had just fought a war against tyranny and wanted the people to have the power to prevent that from re-occurring. They also wanted to preclude a standing national army, so the people would be allowed to own weapons of war in order to fight when necessary. The thought of having to spell out the right of people to own weapons to protect themselves would have been ridiculous to them. They would be mortified that we actually have to fight for the right to protect ourselves today.
5. “No one is suggesting banning of all guns. That is a straw man argument.” Quite a few people are suggesting that, and many are suggesting banning all but 22s so that no one can accuse them of suggesting the banning of all guns.
6. Florida is banning books and dictating what Disney can and cannot say. Not one book has been banned. Certain books are not allowed in school libraries (just like many books and magazines have never been allowed in school libraries). Disney is allowed to say what they want and when they want. But if you are going to attack the state government and spout lies about it, then do not expect to keep the extra special treatment you have received for decades.
7. “Assault weapons are generally high-powered semiautomatic firearms where each round has up to four times the muzzle velocity of a handgun round. This means that each round from an assault weapon inflicts greater damage to the human body than a round from a typical handgun. Assault weapons are generally designed to fire rounds at a greater rate than other firearms, and when combined with high-capacity magazines, they enable a shooter to fire more rounds over a short period.”
a. (deleted text copied from an article to avoid getting TOTV in trouble)
b. (deleted text copied from an article to avoid getting TOTV in trouble)
c. A magazine takes a couple of seconds at most to change. So higher capacity magazines are not the problem.
8. “We are talking about weapons used today in the Ukraine-Russian war not about Agincourt. These are assault weapons and many other kinds.” The weapons generally used in Ukraine or any other war are not the same as AR and LEGAL AK rifles. Knives are used in war. Does that make knives weapons of war? Or only high-powered knives?
9. “We live in Florida with open carry” No explanation required.
10. “How about banning books and doing away with the teaching of true, factual history! Feels like going down a slippery slope, like Germany in the 1930's”. Again, no books banned and no doing away with teaching of true, factual history.
11. "Not allowed in public schools" usually means also in public school libraries. Which means a book ban. No. You do not get to redefine terms. Not allowed in public schools means not allowed (or we can allow banned) in public schools which includes the library. Book banning means you do not have the right to purchase or own the book, you know, kind of like what you are trying to do with guns. Objecting to playboy not being allowed in schools are you, because it reminds you of Nazi Germany????

What are you talking about?

Do you know for a fact that any of the victims in Atlanta were, themselves, carrying a weapon?

If not, your point is invalid. Well, actually it's invalid either way...