[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by MEbner2805

Biden is a corrupt medical examiner who was banned in many states! Nothing he does can be believed at all! The original unbiased medical examiner is the only one who can be believed!!!

Do you mean Dr. Baden? Perhaps this was a Freudian slip! Lol!

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by MEbner2805

Biden is a corrupt medical examiner who was banned in many states! Nothing he does can be believed at all! The original unbiased medical examiner is the only one who can be believed!!!

Do you have any proof of this?

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Here is an episode on LivePD. Here an officer is leaning on this man's neck with his forearm. This happened in Pasco County, Florida in December of 2018. Listen and watch to the end.

I think I remember the statistics on death by drug overdose in 2019, as around 70,000 deaths. Sometimes drugs give people resisting arrest superhuman strength. Here it took three officers to get this man to allow them to put handcuffs on. And there was Cocaine.

I guess no matter which side you choose, you can always bring up that those weren't really HIS pants and the cops put the drugs on him.

I admit to being prejudiced toward law enforcement.

Watch this video.

Live PD - Resisting Arrest “I was eating a fu***** Apple fritter” - YouTube

Nation'''s police widely condemn move used to restrain George Floyd

"Most of the nation's police departments have long cautioned their officers against putting pressure on the back or neck of someone lying face down during an arrest, as Minneapolis officers did to George Floyd.

There's widespread agreement in law enforcement that putting a knee on someone's neck — the move fired police Officer Derek Chauvin used to restrain Floyd — is especially dangerous.

"There hasn't been one person, one police chief, anyone I've talked to, who doesn't see this exactly the same way. The police officer and those who were there that day failed George Floyd," said Chuck Wexler, executive director of the Police Executive Research Forum, a law enforcement-oriented think tank based in Washington. "Every police officer that looked at that video who knows anything about tactics shook their head.


Nation'''s police widely condemn move used to restrain George Floyd


"A New Jersey police chief and several officers marched in solidarity with protesters in one of the state’s most violent cities on Saturday as part of a peaceful protest in the wake of George Floyd’s death.

The act was one of the latest shows of solidarity between law enforcement and those protesting in their communities nationwide."

New Jersey police officers help lead peaceful march for George Floyd in nation’s latest act of solidarity | Fox News

Every single person supports the police but some continue to chant....
How anyone who is horrified must hate the police. This response is getting old after a few years.

[retiredguy123]

Whenever there is a trial, either criminal or civil, both sides will put expert witnesses on the stand who will provide evidence to support that side's case. You can find an expert to give any opinion you want if you pay them enough money. Baden is just another paid expert witness. If the jury has any common sense at all, they will just ignore the expert witnesses because their opposing opinions will cancel each other out.

[Joe V.]

Originally Posted by Adagio43

Let the character assassination begin in order to justify the murder. Nothing new here.

Please point out who is justifying a murder? Semantics.

[rjn5656]

Why do we not see what led up to the incident? Were the cops in danger? Were they dealing a uncontrollable persons (drugs, etc)? Were they threatened? Our news does not show us any of that or report on that. If the answer is no to above, then the cop should be accountable. But until then, we should wait for a proper investigation.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by rjn5656

Why do we not see what led up to the incident? Were the cops in danger? Were they dealing a uncontrollable persons (drugs, etc)? Were they threatened? Our news does not show us any of that or report on that. If the answer is no to above, then the cop should be accountable. But until then, we should wait for a proper investigation.

Timeline: The impact of George Floyd'''s death in Minneapolis and beyond - ABC News

New security video shows events leading up to George Floyd'''s arrest

George Floyd protests: How did we get here?

What we know about the events surrounding George Floyd’s death and its aftermath: a timeline | MinnPost

George Floyd: What happened in the final moments of his life - BBC News

I am not sure WHAT news you see that is not reported, but when you read all the above, let me know....many more.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Joe V.

Please point out who is justifying a murder? Semantics.

The usual suspects on here keep repeating that those of us who feel this was horrific.....

,,,,hate the police
....are bleeding heart liberals
....do not understand the issue
....need to be punished for not supporting police

on and on and on.........the justification is those who will never ever admit a serious and horrendous mistake was made

The WORLD sees it and undertands

[anothersteve]

Originally Posted by Bucco

The usual suspects on here keep repeating that those of us who feel this was horrific.....

,,,,hate the police
....are bleeding heart liberals
....do not understand the issue
....need to be punished for not supporting police

on and on and on.........the justification is those who will never ever admit a serious and horrendous mistake was made

The WORLD sees it and undertands

Yes to all the above. I and many stated long ago in many posts that this was a disgusting and uncalled for act by tha ****head cop, I even went on to call him a pig, a word I despise relating to the Police.
Some hear think anyone that argues with them are all bigots and racists. Some always fan the flames, and they know they will with their posts. Very rarely if any time have I seen those few ever help anyone on this forum.
Yes I see and feel with all my heart,all the above, except the punishing for not supporting the Police. Everything else I agree with.
No we will see who comes back at me, those will be the ones.......
Steve

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Holpat39

Why does a poster think that The Villages attract so many racists. Right there in that statement shows they are racist themselves to post such a stupid statement. The whole picture here is that people are quick to judge both Mr. Floyd and the police. The policeman did an unthinkable act by killing Mr. Floyd and we all can only second guess why he chose to go down that path. Let the courts and a jury decide his fate and we should all grieve for the family of Mr. Floyd. Mr. Floyd's past should not be a factor in his murder. Wait until all the facts are out in the open and we should stop the speculating of what did and did not happen. What happened the last week with the rioting and looting is doing nothing to protest the murder of George Floyd

Does it matter that Mr. Floyd was in prison for felony armed burglary? Does it matter that Mr.Chauvin was sited several times for excessive force?? I think it does on both gentlemen. Doesn't anyone remember being told that "your permanent record will follow you"???

I think it does. It does matter in both situations. I would not want either one to marry my cousin. My cousin deserves better than both of them. It isn't that someone is right or wrong, It is that someone is VERY right or VERY wrong and they keep doing the same stuff. That is called a pattern, a history. What is the best predictor of future behavior? The Catholic Church had it right but they changed it. They used to have mortal AND venial sin.

Oh man...I am just asking for it. But let's talk about stuff. It was wrong to do WHAT? Who started out being the wrongest???

[Nanny32162]

Because he is independent of political or governmental pressure. He performed the autopsy alongside the county medical examiner, who also concluded that it was murder.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Nanny32162

Because he is independent of political or governmental pressure. He performed the autopsy alongside the county medical examiner, who also concluded that it was murder.

He? Who? When? Can you link us to this information?? This Mr. Baden performed his independent autopsy along with the original person who did the autopsy for the State? AND the original autopsyer agreed with the independent one that it was murder???????????

[Nanny32162]

I do believe that when one is first being arrested, as Mr. Floyd was being, the officers do not have your name, which means they do not have your record - clean or unclean. Once someone has served his/her time, it's done. This man had kept a clean record for a number of years. Let's get off Mr. Floyd and look at who caused all the unrest. One man, one police officer cause the cauldron of anger over racial inequality and racial injustice to boil over. Talk about Derek Chauvin and his previous use of excessive force. Chauvin is just one example of the many ways black men and women are treated unjustly, unfairly, and are killed needlessly by the white establishment.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Does it matter that Mr. Floyd was in prison for felony armed burglary? Does it matter that Mr.Chauvin was sited several times for excessive force?? I think it does on both gentlemen. Doesn't anyone remember being told that "your permanent record will follow you"???

I think it does.

1. I know you believe all the world is protesting ONLY the Floyd situation, but you are in error.. it is a build up of the hypocrisy of the USA recently.

2. Not sure what to make out of what you say. It is fine to act irresponsibility because this man has a record ?

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by Nanny32162

I do believe that when one is first being arrested, as Mr. Floyd was being, the officers do not have your name, which means they do not have your record - clean or unclean. Once someone has served his/her time, it's done. This man had kept a clean record for a number of years. Let's get off Mr. Floyd and look at who caused all the unrest. One man, one police officer cause the cauldron of anger over racial inequality and racial injustice to boil over. Talk about Derek Chauvin and his previous use of excessive force. Chauvin is just one example of the many ways black men and women are treated unjustly, unfairly, and are killed needlessly by the white establishment.

The vast majority of good cops, know exactly who in their midst...are scumbags like Chauvin.

What we need to find out, are the reasons they are reluctant to come forward to root the scum out...and then address THAT problem.