[Lindsyburnsy]

Why should a spouse be judged by what their spouse does?

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by NJblue

It amazes me that anyone thinks that a criminal past has anything to do with this situation. No person, regardless of their past (or present), should be subjected to a death sentence by a cop when the person was fully subdued by handcuffs and four armed policemen. Floyd presented zero risk to these officers.

I am normally one to give the police the benefit of the doubt, but this case is so cut and dried that it saddens me that fellow Villagers can see it in any other way.

PERFECTLY summed up.

[Get real]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

"Some reports" are saying that the cop was a racist...even in elementary school.

of course they are. That is the narrative they want. The truth be damned.

[graciegirl]

First Responders Warned About Accidental Fentanyl Exposure

Did any of you read the autopsy results from Hennepin County that said that George Floyd had "contributing factors" of Fentanyl and Methamphetamine intoxicant".

I do think that the police officers were negligent but I still support the knee on neck procedure for them to use when a person is strongly resisting arrest.

I think it is wrong to prejudge groups of people such as police officers and people who are addicted to drugs AND I think we still will hear many more FACTS about all of this sad incident, BUT I doubt no matter WHAT we learn, most people will NOT change their mind.

I think most of the terrible things that have happened are because of all of our unrealistic expectations of almost all people as a society. I do think that if a person has been investigated for issues with excessive force more than twice he/she should be fired THEN and I do believe that someone that has been sentenced to prison four times is not a good upstanding citizen but should not die from hatred and negligence. I think that drug addiction and all of the things that are related to it are one of the underlying factors for much of felony crime...and I don't know what the hell we as a society can do to stop it.

I don't think ANY of the horrible things are as simple as some people make them.

I know that again, when I smile at many black people who I will run into for many years, they will not smile back. That in itself is very, very, sad and troubling.

[Get real]

Originally Posted by NJblue

It amazes me that anyone thinks that a criminal past has anything to do with this situation. No person, regardless of their past (or present), should be subjected to a death sentence by a cop when the person was fully subdued by handcuffs and four armed policemen. Floyd presented zero risk to these officers.

I am normally one to give the police the benefit of the doubt, but this case is so cut and dried that it saddens me that fellow Villagers can see it in any other way.

Absolutely right except your last sentence. None of us were there. But yes, it LOOKS bad. No cop has the right to be an executioner.

[Lottoguy]

Floyd also tested positive for the Coronavirus in his system.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Lottoguy

Floyd also tested positive for the Coronavirus in his system.

Proof?????

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Proof?????

It was on the news today that he tested positive for Coronavirus in early April. He also tested positive for Fentanyl and Meth.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Proof?????

I read that just this morning and I will link it because it was a reliable source. (AP wire) It said he tested positive on APRIL 3rd. and he was asymptomatic...This also from the Hennepin County Coroners report with approval to publish by the family.

Certainly not contributing to his death. (Test for Covid-19)

Here is the link, Doc....Autopsy report shows Floyd had tested positive for COVID-19

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I read that just this morning and I will link it because it was a reliable source. (AP wire) It said he tested positive on APRIL 3rd. and he was asymptomatic...This also from the Hennepin County Coroners report with approval to publish by the family.

Certainly not contributing to his death. (Test for Covid-19)

Here is the link, Doc....Autopsy report shows Floyd had tested positive for COVID-19

I wonder if his death will show up in the Chinese coronavirus statistics as dying from it to puff up the death rate as so many deaths unrelated to the virus have.

[graciegirl]

Here is the transcript of the 911 call. I had not read it until now. I could not find any mugshots of George Floyd and I asked the browser how things are removed from Bing. You can do the same if you wish. I was surprised how public record can be removed from browser. I bet you will be too. It is troubling to me.

Anyhow, the transcript;

George Floyd: Minneapolis police release 911 call that led to arrest - CNN

[Biggles]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

By compression on the neck as the video shows.

George Floyd'''s family releases independent autopsy showing death caused by asphyxia from sustained pressure | Fox News

The media story is that George Floyd died from asphyxiation—“I can’t breathe”—from a police officer’s knee on his neck. This story is not supported by the autopsy and toxicology reports.
The autopsy report says Floyd died of a heart attack and that no life-threatening injuries were inflicted by police restraint. The medical examiner found no physical evidence to “support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation.” The toxicology report says that the concentration of Fentanyl in Floyd’s blood was more than three times the fatal dose. Fentanyl is a dangerous opioid. Reports that the coroner ruled Floyd’s death a homicide are incorrect. The word “homicide” does not appear in the report.
As for Floyd’s neck, the autopsy report states there are “no areas of contusion or hemorrhage . . . The cervical spinal column is palpably stable and free of hemorrhage.”
Excited Delirium Syndrome (EXD) typically results from fatal drug overdose. The condition results in breathing problems and cardiopulmonary arrest. These were the symptoms that Floyd showed.
The full Coroner Report can be found by clicking on the following link:
https://www.hennepin.us/-/media/henn...3700_Floyd.pdf

[blueash]

Originally Posted by Biggles

The media story is that George Floyd died from asphyxiation—“I can’t breathe”—from a police officer’s knee on his neck. This story is not supported by the autopsy and toxicology reports.
The autopsy report says Floyd died of a heart attack and that no life-threatening injuries were inflicted by police restraint. The medical examiner found no physical evidence to “support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation.” The toxicology report says that the concentration of Fentanyl in Floyd’s blood was more than three times the fatal dose. Fentanyl is a dangerous opioid. Reports that the coroner ruled Floyd’s death a homicide are incorrect. The word “homicide” does not appear in the report.
As for Floyd’s neck, the autopsy report states there are “no areas of contusion or hemorrhage . . . The cervical spinal column is palpably stable and free of hemorrhage.”
Excited Delirium Syndrome (EXD) typically results from fatal drug overdose. The condition results in breathing problems and cardiopulmonary arrest. These were the symptoms that Floyd showed.
The full Coroner Report can be found by clicking on the following link:
https://www.hennepin.us/-/media/henn...3700_Floyd.pdf

Hi,
You posted almost exactly the same comments on another thread and I refuted your points but you didn't have the opportunity I guess to respond there. Instead you posted your incomplete and wrong information here. The highlights are that the Medical examiners office of the county listed his cause of death as a HOMICIDE not as a drug death or a cardiac death. A Homicide. For the full reply CLICK HERE and page down to the comment posted at 1:27 PM. I will include the same snip from the Hennepin County Medical Examiner's Office release giving the cause of death.

Please understand that I see how you can be confused by the difference between the descriptive findings on an autopsy and the conclusion as to cause of death. The ME is very aware that the actions of the LEO does not have to leave a physical finding to be the proximate cause of death. Of course all deaths ultimately are from cardiac arrest. The question is why did Mr. Lloyd's heart stop. Answer per the ME, he was a homicide victim.