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graciegirl 06-02-2020 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1775360)
Twenty YEARS ago he was *arrested and charged* with possession. I see no mention that he was ever convicted of it. He did do 5 years for aggravated robbery with a deadly weapon. That happened over 10 years ago, and he only had to serve four years of his sentence.

Zero incidences since then. He has no "violent criminal past." He had a singular violent criminal incident in his life. Which isn't to excuse him, but it does seem to indicate that YOU are more interested in painting him as a lot worse than he was, for some nefarious reason.
George Floyd left Texas prison to start new life in Minneapolis | Daily Mail Online

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-02-2020 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1776156)
Normally I don't even read that website, but I followed the link. Thank you for showing the priors. Looks like it was all theft, and what amounts to fairly minor possession (less than a gram of cocaine - not something people would possess for sale, more like for personal use). And - it looks like he really was trying to stay legit for the past 10+ years.

graciegirl 06-02-2020 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1776156)
I wouldn't want to have a record like that.

graciegirl 06-02-2020 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1776156)
George Floyd left Texas prison to start new life in Minneapolis | Daily Mail Online

manaboutown 06-02-2020 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1776162)
Normally I don't even read that website, but I followed the link. Thank you for showing the priors. Looks like it was all theft, and what amounts to fairly minor possession (less than a gram of cocaine - not something people would possess for sale, more like for personal use). And - it looks like he really was trying to stay legit for the past 10+ years.
Very funny. For aggravated robbery with a gun he was sentenced to five years in prison as that is not a fairly minor crime. It is a violent felony.

He was charged with having over four grams of coke he had for distribution. The charge was obviously plea bargained down, duh!

ColdNoMore 06-02-2020 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by bpascani (Post 1776054)
He was unarmed, already hand cuffed, and there were 4 officers... This was beyond necessary. If he was being violent (with his hands cuffed behind his back), his other 3 officers would have been involved in helping. They were just standing there! Either way, he's dead now, at the hands of this officer...on tape.
Exactly.

And now, just like so many who want to blame the victims of rape and sexual assault, the implied excuse that he had it coming since he had a police record...starts coming out of the woodwork from the usual suspects.

Even though none of that makes a damn difference...in murdering him.

Simply disgusting. :ohdear:

graciegirl 06-02-2020 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1776196)
Exactly.

And now, just like so many who want to blame the victims of rape and sexual assault, the implied excuse that he had it coming since he had a police record...starts coming out of the woodwork from the usual suspects.

Even though none of that makes a damn difference...in murdering him.

Simply disgusting. :ohdear:

I don't think it is a good thing to have a police record for armed robbery. Did you imply I implied something? In Ohio we would say you are "et up". We don't want our children to have a police record. We wouldn't want one ourselves. It implies whatever having a prison record implies. It isn't an honor.

I don't think it is "simply disgusting" to discuss the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. It does not change that he is dead.

Bay Kid 06-03-2020 06:59 AM
Where did George work? He must of had a good job. He was driving around in a Mercedes. Saw his wife on the news, beautiful nails, hair, and jewelry.

Get real 06-03-2020 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by argos5usa (Post 1775370)
Like most paid litigation experts, Baden's report is drafted to fit the narrative of the side who is paying him...no credibility.
Thank you.

retiredguy123 06-03-2020 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1776345)
Where did George work? He must of had a good job. He was driving around in a Mercedes. Saw his wife on the news, beautiful nails, hair, and jewelry.
Floyd was not married.

He had worked in Minneapolis as a truck driver and as a security guard in a restaurant, but it is not clear when he was employed.

jerseyjoy 06-03-2020 08:47 AM
Five stints in jail. Armed home invasion with resident held at gunpoint.
George Floyd left Texas prison to start new life in Minneapolis | Daily Mail Online

Denny9 06-03-2020 11:18 AM
How would the police know about the past when first confronting George Floyd?
 
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Originally Posted by John41 (Post 1775279)
How quick are some politicians to throw police under the bus when politically expedient. Considering Mr. Floyd’s violent criminal past of armed robbery and drug dealing I am inclined to give police officers the benefit of the doubt unless shown otherwise after an investigation. The restraint technique of kneeling on a suspects is permitted by law if not excessive. More facts will emerge to reach a final and just judgement.
How would these officers know about any past experiences when initially confronting George Floyd? But the real key to this comment concerns restraint techniques. If having multiple officers kneeling on a suspect with one keeping his full weight on the neck for nine minutes isn't excessive I'd sure like to hear what it would have to be in order to be classified as excessive.

NJblue 06-03-2020 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jerseyjoy (Post 1776464)
Five stints in jail. Armed home invasion with resident held at gunpoint.
George Floyd left Texas prison to start new life in Minneapolis | Daily Mail Online
It amazes me that anyone thinks that a criminal past has anything to do with this situation. No person, regardless of their past (or present), should be subjected to a death sentence by a cop when the person was fully subdued by handcuffs and four armed policemen. Floyd presented zero risk to these officers.

I am normally one to give the police the benefit of the doubt, but this case is so cut and dried that it saddens me that fellow Villagers can see it in any other way.

Bay Kid 06-04-2020 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1776360)
Floyd was not married.

He had worked in Minneapolis as a truck driver and as a security guard in a restaurant, but it is not clear when he was employed.
Yep, sorry. That was just the mother of his child. She must have a great job.

He did work as a security guard part time for many years, with the policeman that killed him. Some history with these guys?

Lindsyburnsy 06-04-2020 07:27 AM
It is an independant autopsy, because it was ordered by a private individual rather than the one the city coroner uses. We all saw what happened. Even if the victim had high BP or a bad heart, or whatever, he was alive and fine 10 minutes before his neck was compressed for 8 minutes.


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