Originally Posted by Petersweeney (Post 1954520)

1/3 of global beer market is AB/InBev a Belgian company.... they could put the vaccine in the beer - and solve the problem

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1955027)

Love that white dog! And I believe that Corporations, in general, are now getting better at taking social responsibility. Their customers are more involved and vocal on social media than ever before. Social medial has a powerful upside as well as a downside!

Originally Posted by mike234 (Post 1954537)

I can see the villagers lining up for free stuff now. and when they order, these cheapskates will ask "is this free?" and if these cheapskates get it for free, they will only leave a .50 cent tip....I get embarrassed by my friends, who are really cheapskates, and stiff waiters and waiters constantly.....I call them pikers.. they will order an ice tea, and charge it....

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1955027)

Love that white dog! And I believe that Corporations, in general, are now getting better at taking social responsibility. Their customers are more involved and vocal on social media than ever before. Social medial has a powerful upside as well as a downside!

Originally Posted by Marty94 (Post 1955063)

Okay, I’m ready!

Originally Posted by Travelingal702 (Post 1954595)

ABSOLUTELY inexcusable not to tip the wait staff in any restaurant. And to stiff them, is even worse. If I saw this happening, I would call them on it.

Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1954604)

Free Beer! Well that changes everything!! Sure I’ll join the largest vaccine trial in history for a free beer! Forget the fact that no one has any idea of whether there will be long term health issues associated with these vaccines, we are talking about a FREE Beer!

Originally Posted by Rchamblin1 (Post 1954647)

Look into why the government and their cronies need to keep rewarding everyone who gets the dangerous vaccine. Nano particles and other dangerous materials included.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1955078)

And so the un-vaccinated people can JUST continue to INFECT and KILL each other and young children. Great. Just keep up that stubbornness.

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1954809)

I am not the original poster you responded to, so I can only speak for myself.

I personally think Health Insurance is a crime. I think holding people's children's health hostage is a criminal and despicable act.

That said, I believe the health insurance companies will do whatever they can get away with to make more money. Period. Full Stop. Notice I did not mention if what they decide on is legal, I don't think that matters to them, it is simply yet another cost consideration in their decision making.

So, yes, I think insurance companies will do anything, including refusing to cover people, charging more, and dropping coverage for any reason they can come up with. I had a close friend that worked for an insurance company. She was in a department called "Loss Prevention". Her job was to find ways to NOT pay medical bill claims that would otherwise be covered by the policy. She was VERY good at her job.

Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1955043)

You are so correct about social responsibility awakening with social media.

Used to be that the old Freidman philosophy about the only thing that counts is the money....that is changing with our younger folks and while seeing corporate INDIVIDUALS GAIN so much during COVID, I think there is an awakening that instead of so much stress on the shareholders and money......corporations are waking up and understanding the responsibility to society has been ignored. See the HUGE diversity in income and worth between different stratas and how it continues to grow wider....that is hard to ignore.

I grew up when the only thing that counted was the bottom line.......watching the happenings,I now think we are actually able to make a profit and also profit the world and the country at the same time.

It is hard with that "downside" being so loud to see the "upside" but I trust in our young people.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1955078)

And so the un-vaccinated people can JUST continue to INFECT and KILL each other and young children. Great. Just keep up that stubbornness.

Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1955085)

You do realize that children have accounted for less than 3/100’s of 1% of all Covid deaths...
Sorry to spoil your rant with actual facts...

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1955093)

ALL unvaccinated adults or children will be INFECTING and KILLING each other. Won't that be wonderful?

Originally Posted by stanley (Post 1955092)

Someone really needs to stop with the scare tactics.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1955093)

ALL unvaccinated adults or children will be INFECTING and KILLING each other. Won't that be wonderful?

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1955096)

It's ALL the truth my fine friend with a funny forehead.

Originally Posted by stanley (Post 1955092)

Someone really needs to stop with the scare tactics.

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1955100)

Because someone disagrees with you does not mean it is scare tactics or fear mongering. Many of us prefer information so we can make informed decisions.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1955089)

The US now has the largest wealth disparity in its history and the highest of the 1st world countries. It was NOT that way in the 1950s. It IS very dangerous because it could lead to a US Dictatorship.

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1955097)

Uh, I hope you are kidding, because - uh, no. It would be horrible. While I may completely disagree with those that choose to not be vaccinated, and I think that they are putting others lives at risk, I would never wish them to die because of that.

Originally Posted by stanley (Post 1955098)

Even sarcastically, please do not call me your friend, people might get the wrong idea

Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1955269)

Compounded by the fact that corporate execs, and those in the higher pay area, restructured their pays during the pandemic heights, insuring they lost nothing and in fact made more money while shuttering doors and laying off workers, expanding the disparity.

And those who "have" consider this a good thing, but you are correct......it is extremely dangerous.

CEO Pay Surged in a Year of Upheaval and Leadership Challenges - WSJ

C.E.O. Pay Remains Stratospheric, Even at Companies Battered by Pandemic - The New York Times

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1955349)

I don't wish the unvaccinated to die. It is just a fact that about 2% of them WILL die and some will suffer large amounts of pain and LARGE hospital bills. And some of them will be the unvaccinated children under 12 years of age. And there likely WILL be long term suffering for some of the unvaccinated. You can tell that this is happening because although DEATHS due to CV is down in the US, it is NOT zero. CV is NOT OVER yet in the US and the world. These are just FACTS that have nothing to do with me. I wish that CV had NEVER happened to anyone!

Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1955269)

Compounded by the fact that corporate execs, and those in the higher pay area, restructured their pays during the pandemic heights, insuring they lost nothing and in fact made more money while shuttering doors and laying off workers, expanding the disparity.

And those who "have" consider this a good thing, but you are correct......it is extremely dangerous.

CEO Pay Surged in a Year of Upheaval and Leadership Challenges - WSJ

C.E.O. Pay Remains Stratospheric, Even at Companies Battered by Pandemic - The New York Times

Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1955370)

Fact: children have accounted for less than 3/100’s of 1% of Covid deaths
Fact: 87 % of Covid deaths occurred among obese or overweight people
Fact: on average, those who died with Covid had 2 or more of - diabetes, heart disease, lung disease or hypertension.
Fact: no one knows what the long term effects of mRNA vaccines will be.

There is zero factual evidence that 2% of those who did not receive the vaccine will die from Covid...

Once again, sorry to spoil your rant with actual facts...

Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 1955382)

There are actual facts and internet facts. Where and how the facts where the facts collected ? Who actually did the counting and was it a controlled study.

But even simpler is context. Take your 87% overweight / obese statistics accounts for 87% of Covid deaths. But what wasn't said is :
According to statistics, over 70% of Americans adults are either overweight or obese. Thus the rate of Covid deaths would be overweight people even without a correlation to weight.

Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1955370)

Fact: children have accounted for less than .23% of Covid deaths
Fact: 87 % of Covid deaths occurred among obese or overweight people
Fact: on average, those who died with Covid had 2 or more of - diabetes, heart disease, lung disease or hypertension.
Fact: no one knows what the long term effects of mRNA vaccines will be.

There is zero factual evidence that 2% of those who did not receive the vaccine will die from Covid...

Once again, sorry to spoil your rant with actual facts...

Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 1955382)

There are actual facts and internet facts. Where and how were the facts collected ? Who actually did the counting and was it a controlled study.

But even simpler is context. Take your 87% overweight / obese statistics accounts for 87% of Covid deaths. But what wasn't said is :
According to statistics, over 70% of Americans adults are either overweight or obese. Thus the rate of Covid deaths would be 70% were overweight people even without a correlation to weight.

In the world of statistics one should bear in mind the old adage "Figures don’t lie, but liars figure".

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1955384)

Yeah statistics are fun things. Like the children thing - how old is "child" by the statistic-collector's definition? Because, EVERYONE is someone's child. So are they talking legal minors under 16? Or anyone under the average age of puberty (12)? Or do they mean infants, toddlers, and newborns? And now that [political political political] are we including the children who haven't been born yet?

There are fewer people in this country that fall into the category of age (1-hour post-birth) to 12 years, than there are people that fall into the category of everyone else. So of course the percentage of kids who get sick and/or die from COVID-19 will be a fraction of the entire population of people who get sick and/or die from COVID-19.

Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1955370)

Fact: children have accounted for less than .23% of Covid deaths
Fact: 87 % of Covid deaths occurred among obese or overweight people
Fact: on average, those who died with Covid had 2 or more of - diabetes, heart disease, lung disease or hypertension.
Fact: no one knows what the long term effects of mRNA vaccines will be.

There is zero factual evidence that 2% of those who did not receive the vaccine will die from Covid...

Once again, sorry to spoil your rant with actual facts...

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1955369)

Also, the heads of Colleges and Universities and their staffs have years ago decided that they should be paid like CEOs of corporations. Even college football coaches make 6 million / year. This has made colleges largely unaffordable to the average high school student with good grades and without extremely rich parents. It was NOT this way in the 1960s. Today college students take out LARGE loans that take some over 20 years to pay back. What this does overall to US society is decrease UPWARD MOBILITY and decrease QUALITY OF LIFE. The US is ranked around 30th in the world in these qualities today. England is about 11th. The US was in the top ten in the 50s and 60s. What happened........there are MANY details - but, overall the elitists (top 10%) won, and America LOST!!!!!!! That's one reason why Americans are having FEWER children now than in the 1950s.

Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1955394)

Here, you can read it yourself:
https://services.aap.org/en/pages/20...l-data-report/

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1955591)

I'm not going to download a full report just to find out what constitutes "children" in their results. That's the job of whoever posts something and claims that it's a fact. If you claim something is a fact, it's up to you to support it. Copy and paste the sentences that define "children" in the report. Or don't, and then my supposition is just as valid as yours.

Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1955597)

It’s 0-17, feel free to read the report, it’s very enlightening...

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1954172)

If the United States reaches the President's vaccination goal by the Fourth of July, Anheuser-Busch will buy all adults a round of beer.

Sounds patriotic to me - I wonder how long before this thread gets locked, it's a positive thread, not a complaint or political, but I am betting it lasts about a day - LOL!

(BTW: I don't drink anything - anymore - and don't recommend any does, but I think it is nice to see a company pitching in and trying to help)

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1955078)

And so the un-vaccinated people can JUST continue to INFECT and KILL each other and young children. Great. Just keep up that stubbornness.