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Old 06-16-2020, 09:12 AM
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Single mothers may be an instrumental cause, but most folks are taught by society the difference between right and wrong. I guarantee that most repeat offenders know their Miranda Rights by heart. Most individuals have a mind of their own and know the difference between right and wrong and make their own decisions on which actions they will make and what the results of those actions might be. Sorry, but the excuse that one did not have two parents to guide them and tell them right and wrong, is a cop out and not a defense for their illegal actions.

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I think broken homes have an impact, but not the only root cause.
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Old 06-16-2020, 09:15 AM
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If I were you I would read articles, books and essays written by Thomas Sowell, Walter E. Williams, Shelby Steele and Bob Woodson to start. These African Americans have studied this problem at length, yet their suggestions are ignored in favor of other solutions that to date have not worked.
So very true, get rid of Sharpton who helps nobody but himself and look up to these men.

Trillions of dollars wasted on war on poverty and we keep going with wasteful programs
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Old 06-16-2020, 09:20 AM
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There are three things that bring people out of poverty, Education, Accountability, and Discipline. All are now lacking in society.
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Old 06-16-2020, 09:37 AM
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As a liberal, white woman, professional (Attorney and Surgeon), married parent of 2 sons and foster parent of 6 black children, I am aghast at some of the hateful or ignorant opinions/solutions I read on this thread. My sons were teens when we began fostering (northern state) and we were blessed by their lives. The local police, however, were after these kids from the day we invited them into our homes. (They were not the only black kids in our community)- Questioning them on where they were going, where they were coming from, how did they get those shoes, why are they walking into this person's drive way, why are they standing out in from of the local theater (along with my bio sons), why are you walking with this (white) girl, frisking their pockets? My hubby and I spend a lot of time at the police station trying to stop this behavior. Everyone should foster a black child so see what it's like and what these kids are up against. Thankfully our neighbors treated the kids with respect. It was the greatest education of my life time and we're still close to each of the kids we fostered. An yes, we put them through college....yes, we gave them free stuff. I'm so disappointed in my fellow whites who think they know the failing of everyone but themselves.
What a difference you have made during your life! Thanks for sharing with us. All those little things that repeatedly happen contribute to & perpetuate the distrust so they really aren’t little things at all. I’m saddened to think we’ve made so little progress in so many ways. When we were kids, who would have thought we’d still be dealing with the same issues as seniors? I pray that a good & Godly person from the black community will come forward to lead the way forward. I don’t think any white person will be perceived as genuinely understanding. We can have a such a beautiful future if we can heal and grow together. If we continue along this path, our adversaries can just sit back & watch as we destroy our own country.
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Old 06-16-2020, 09:48 AM
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There are three things that bring people out of poverty, Education, Accountability, and Discipline. All are now lacking in society.
I agree those elements are critical from the individual but there are more complicated factors that extend beyond. What about love, faith, health, security, community fellowship, mentors/role models, individual intellectual, emotional and physical abilities...just to name a few. It would be a lot more difficult to get out of poverty if any of those is significantly lacking.
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So very true, get rid of Sharpton who helps nobody but himself and look up to these men.

Trillions of dollars wasted on war on poverty and we keep going with wasteful programs
Sharpton represents no one except himself. He is not elected. No one appointed him.

Many blacks also wish some powerful, brave person in the media would stop using Sharpton’s divisive rhetoric for its shock value. It only benefits them. He’s like addictive click-bait to media moguls.
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Old 06-16-2020, 10:11 AM
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Poverty can be avoided, by all skin colors, if you follow only 3 steps when you are young. Follow ALL of them and you have a 98% chance of avoiding poverty.

What are the steps? Finish high school, work full time, and ‘marriage before carriage’ (wait til you are 21, and marry, before having kids).

2 percent of persons in families that followed all three norms are poor, whereas 76 percent of persons in families that followed none were poor

Three Simple Rules Poor Teens Should Follow to Join the Middle Class
We all wish it were that simple.
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Old 06-16-2020, 10:17 AM
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Sharpton represents no one except himself. He is not elected. No one appointed him.

Many blacks also wish some powerful, brave person in the media would stop using Sharpton’s divisive rhetoric for its shock value. It only benefits them. He’s like addictive click-bait to media moguls.
Your right but when you see him show up all the time people unfortunately think he is a leader. Wish he would be led to the nearest prison for tax evasion.
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Old 06-16-2020, 10:37 AM
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Your right but when you see him show up all the time people unfortunately think he is a leader. Wish he would be led to the nearest prison for tax evasion.
Al Sharpton is a leader. He's just leading people in the wrong direction.
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Old 06-16-2020, 12:04 PM
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I agree those elements are critical from the individual but there are more complicated factors that extend beyond. What about love, faith, health, security, community fellowship, mentors/role models, individual intellectual, emotional and physical abilities...just to name a few. It would be a lot more difficult to get out of poverty if any of those is significantly lacking.
Those automatically come along for the ride if you have the first three.
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Old 06-16-2020, 04:09 PM
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Just take that out of the equation. It is a disservice to single parents, and a disservice to kids of malfunctioning two-parent households.
I taught scouts for 12 years. Depending on the year there were 30 to 50 boys in the pack or troop. I'll be the first to say that there are ALWAYS exceptions but for the most part, the boys/young men who didn't have a mother and father in the household were real handfulls, sometimes just plain dangerous. We had to have 2 boys removed from scouts and it was no coincidence neither had a father at home. My mail was stolen just last year. I caught the little sh&^. A 14 yo being raised by his mother who was too busy working to give him the swatting he so nearly deserved. I got him put in jail... it was his 4th trip in. He doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell at this time in life.
A kid needs 3 things, a loving mom and dad. Remove any 1 of those 3 and it increases issues later in life more than you will ever know.
That's not a belief, it's a fact!
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Old 06-17-2020, 07:52 AM
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The big con is alive and continuing to spread it's awful lies. Does anyone in their right mind believe that passing a few laws, allowing anarchy in some cities, reducing the budget for police protection will bring peace to the problems of rioting, black concerns, etc. That is an insult to the many who are looking for real firm and fair practices to bring this under control. It has now been baked into politics and rable rousers like the ilk of a Al Sharpton who makes his living stimulating riots and those who are mal contents. Lets see someone have the guts to form a Commission, independent of any political party or self interest group and provide it with adquate funding and support and challenge them to analyze all aspects of the cause of where we are and bring to the table recommendations to restore confidence and peace to the situations and the communities.
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Old 06-17-2020, 02:12 PM
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If I lived there the for sale sign would have been put out front long ago. These are the most incompetent elected officials I have ever seen operate. A box of rocks is far more intellegent.
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Old 06-17-2020, 06:58 PM
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Actually, Governor Cuomo has come up with a very detailed plan and requiring every mayor to have implemented it by April of next year or they will not receive state financial aid. The plan includes most of the things we have just been talking about. There is no chance, however, that our Florida governor will follow suit🙁
is it as good as his plan to put Covid19 infected patients in nursing homes?
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Old 06-17-2020, 07:32 PM
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I’m not trying to stir the pot but it’s just a statistical fact. Of course there are kids that thrive in single parent households and kids that fail miserably in 2-parent families. But statistically 2-parent households have a big advantage.
If facts and statistics don't further your opinion you ignore them , thoughts, ideas and opinions are much like your children , to be defended at all costs
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