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Originally Posted by drhntr8 (Post 1783877)

When all the statues are gone, all the names have been changed of military bases and streets are done the last thing to remind us of slavery will be the constitution written by slave owners...what will we do?

I think the Jews have a great response by supporting the Holocaust Museum and other remembrances to honor their forefathers’ sacrifices while having a goal to also never allow the atrocities to be forgotten. Much of what is taught about black history was scrubbed to portray only one side of the story but removing visible reminders may allow the reality to become doubted, like folklore.

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1783737)

I watch very little news these days because it's all negative and much is absurd. But the local Orlando news came on tonight after the golf tournament and stayed tuned for a short while. I see there are still demonstrations going on in Orlando and I assume other cities as well. What I couldn't figure out is what these people want? There were a lot of Black Lives Matter signs and some saying No Justice, No Peace.
I agree. Black lives matter. Now what. But the ones that really confuse me are the ones calling for justice. The cop that killed the guy in Minneapolis along with several of his fellow officers are in jail awaiting trial. What else would they like to see happen in that case.
The have arrested the perpetrator, charged him with a crime and will be
bringing him the trial. That is justice.
All of these calls for defunding police departments is nonsense. Politicians that who are agreeing with it are simply pandering for votes. It will never happen.
So I'm asking, what has to happen to get these people to stop these demonstrations?

Not just justice for this crime but all that have gone before without justice.

They really want something that I am afraid is impossible to give them an end to systemic racism in this country.

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Originally Posted by PennBF (Post 1783677)

I will retract any of this if just one person can show me just one solid and useable suggestion or idea that has been brought forward from our social leaders, the churches, law enforcements, political leaders, community activists, etc.etc. What
we have seen are meaningless slogans, labels, pontifications, etc etc. Does this sound familiar, "we need reform, we need to defund police, we need to take action, we need to recognize the errors of the past, and so many etc.'s it's not worth writing them down. There is a reason for this. It is too complicated a problem and so broad, the screamers for change, actions, etc are just not smart enough to try to provide concrete plans. All they know is how to generate riots, discontent, protests etc and pretend to help control them with "LABELS". Where do you start with the complications that brought theses terrible problem(s) to our door. This is not a one
plan or solution fits all. A detailed plan has to be brought forwards that addresses
the years of neglect of the plight of the black person, the years of raising children with the psychology that they are entitled, the build up of crime in the housing projects because of the failure to have a solid 2 parent family, the schooling system
both k-12 and College and Universities who have neglected to participate in the
need to assist to correct past abuses, a long range plan that can be applied to ensure
the action plans continue to be promoted. These are just a smattering of the need
for detail plans to disrupt the on going black issues. It is a disgrace that we have not
seen a single detailed plan to go after the many issues to solve the complicated needs of this community of people. I am personally sick of the label's and want to see the details behind the meaningless labels. :ohdear:

The church has a plan. In fact it was written in stone years ago, THE TEN COMMANDS, a lot of people don’t want to follow them, they want to take them off public buildings and everywhere else.

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Originally Posted by PennBF (Post 1783677)

National repentance and obedience to the 10 Commandments. But, I don't see that as actually happening. Sin (violence, murders, rapes, abortions, thefts, corruption, lying, etc) is now the American way. It will take God's direct intervention to stop this. Feel free to slam me. It won't change a thing. This country will be taken over and destroyed in less than a dozen years based on biblical warnings and the current state of the world. If you can't see the decay in all human institutions and the complete lack of fear of God, you simply are not paying attention at all. Time is truly running short.

BLACK LIVES MATTER ????

Yeah, they do......but :

ALL LIVES MATTER

IMHO, saying that black lives matter, gives them special status.
If all the BLM protesters had ALM signs, it would begin to unify society.
I can envision a ALM protest, with people of all races involved.
At least then, they all would have something in common to start with.

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1783691)

The "solid 2-parent family" is a really stupid insertion. There are 2-parent families with unwanted kids in them. There are 2-parent families where one of the parents abuses their spouse. Others where one parent abuses the kid(s). There are 2-parent families that have no love within the home. There are 2-parent families where the parents are criminals. There are 2-parent families...etc. etc. etc.

Single parents have it harder - in general. But when you get down to specifics, you'll find there are kids who are raised with just one parent who grow up to be amazing adults, and there are kids who are raised with two parents who grow up to be monsters.

Just take that out of the equation. It is a disservice to single parents, and a disservice to kids of malfunctioning two-parent households.

The problem goes deeper than just two parents. It is basic education. Say what you want, but by-in-large, the largest majority of the sensationalized incidences involved persons of low education and low moral values. Yes, there are educated persons who are stopped because of the color of their skin but , it is highly unlikely the situation gets escalated to the point someone is hurt or killed. There are programs out there designed to work with our public education systems to fix this situation. The one I happen to be familiar with is "An Achievable Dream". I have witnessed it first hand, and it works. Children are taken from first grade through twelfth grade and given extra help to see that they succeed and graduate from high school and stay out of trouble. If they succeed they are guaranteed a free college education. Not only do they receive extra help with their studies, before and after school day; they receive education on anger management, proper manors, proper english communication, money management ...... just to name a few. On the weekends they are introduced to museums and other cultural events. These are the skills and experiences that your parents and mine taught us at home. These are the skills they are not receiving. These are the skills that help them function in society and help them make good decisions throughout life and succeed to become productive / contributing citizens.

The program is available for ALL races. The less likely an identified child is to succeed in life the more likely he or she is to become a candidate for the program. It cost the child and his family nothing. The cost is raised in the community through local business sponsorship and charitable contributions and is funneled into the school system to supplement the the teachers salaries and activities. It is a good investment. It breaks the cycle of illiteracy and teaches moral decency so we can live in peace and harmony with our neighbors. IT WORKS ! Check it out.

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Originally Posted by Joe C. (Post 1784494)

:ho:

I was widowed at age 40. I was left to raise our four children on my own. They are all adults with children of their own. I think they turned out just fine without anymore problems than children raised in a two parent home.

If you want to really see why statistically - whites are at 25% single parent families and blacks are at 64% . ( American Indians second worst at 53%

Children in single-parent families by race | KIDS COUNT Data Center

If you really want to do something about race relations and the betterment of all - put anti fertility drugs in the water or preach abstinence and marriage for 21 years minimum .

REMARKABLY the rate of single parents has remained the SAME at 35% for at least TEN years.

And what they watch on tv...

Book stores not looted 😆😂👍

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Originally Posted by DonnaNi4os (Post 1784508)

Did you ever think that MEN are the source of this problem instead men are blaming single Moms?

Which parent is the “single parent” who continues to struggle with parenting and which one is absent?

Very few females are directly involved in these law enforcement problems on either side.

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Originally Posted by Tnbrewer (Post 1784532)

Book stores not looted 😆😂👍

Fake news. Looters did not practice any discretion. Mayhem & destruction were the goals for many rioters.

Vandals, looters damage downtown Naperville businesses - Chicago Sun-Times

Naperville police reportedly watched

What a great list of ideas and suggestion and remarkable inputs to this overwhelming condition in the US and in a number of cases in the world. It's impressive to see some real concern and ideas to start to attack these terrible conditions. It would be interesting if all of the comments and inputs would be reviewed and categorized? Whether you agree or disagree with some of the ideas or comments you have to be proud to live in a community which is not afraid to express their views and a mechanism (TOTV) which is available to provide them to others for review and consideration! I know I am!! :ho: