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McGyver9 06-14-2020 07:31 AM

Uncle Sugar rewarding irresponsible behavior (MORE money/better housing for EVERY illegitimate baby you have) is the first domino. In conjunction with not naming the father.

You'll note, I said NOTHING about "color"...
This goes for EVERYONE.

Of COURSE there are single parents who raise their kids to be productive members of society.
However, you are a fool if you're going to sit there and deny the OVERWHELMING statistics.

I haven't read anyone here mention the single "cure" for the latest media induced firestorm.

DON'T FIGHT WITH THE POLICE OFFICER.
DON'T RUN AWAY.

Nobody has been killed that wasn't doing one or both of those 2 things...

A good parent would have instilled that from an early age.

Tom2172 06-14-2020 07:36 AM

FakeNewsMedia, social media & politicians have done their job destroying civilization. They’ve won! Good job CNN

michtofla 06-14-2020 07:49 AM

Let’s face it. The problem is “UNFIXABLE”.

jmkeyzers 06-14-2020 07:58 AM

Two parent family
 
Are you saying two parent family is not better idea. The point is in the black community 60 to 70% don’t have a dad. That’s the point and it is major cause of the problem. If you can’t fix that or understand it things will never get better.

Stu from NYC 06-14-2020 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McGyver9 (Post 1783925)
Uncle Sugar rewarding irresponsible behavior (MORE money/better housing for EVERY illegitimate baby you have) is the first domino. In conjunction with not naming the father.

You'll note, I said NOTHING about "color"...
This goes for EVERYONE.

Of COURSE there are single parents who raise their kids to be productive members of society.
However, you are a fool if you're going to sit there and deny the OVERWHELMING statistics.

I haven't read anyone here mention the single "cure" for the latest media induced firestorm.

DON'T FIGHT WITH THE POLICE OFFICER.
DON'T RUN AWAY.

Nobody has been killed that wasn't doing one or both of those 2 things...

A good parent would have instilled that from an early age.

Very true

allsport 06-14-2020 08:16 AM

You might read the 8 things that Obama started which have now been tested for several years and the data has proven to be effective. Do psychological testing on police every 6 months and weed out the ones that have violent tendencies. Quit teaching police to be dominant, teach them to be peacekeepers. Disband all the departments and the unions and reconstruct them with community police and a union not geared toward protecting the bad actors but rewarding the good ones. You have a lot of audacity to say that one parent homes are the problem. Do your research, the child abusers are more often the fathers in the home. Look at the number of women who are abused and correlate that information with the professions of the men and police are high on the list. Chauvin's wife filed for divorce the minute he was arrested, a red flag for spousal abuse. Put together independent prosecutors to hold police accountable. If you have to work with the police then you are not the person to prosecute them. Put together community boards to advise the police. These are all recommendations from the people on the street. If you cannot come up with ways to solve the problem then you are a part of the problem.

ldivens 06-14-2020 08:19 AM

Has anyone asked why that is and what to do about it?

Ele201 06-14-2020 08:25 AM

Hello. OBB. I couldn’t agree with you more! I have seen 2-parent systems fail, with quite traumatic effects on the children. On the other hand, I’ve seen single parent households operate under tremendous financial strain.

Jacksig 06-14-2020 08:27 AM

Single Parent
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Burgy (Post 1783813)
Not withstanding your exceptions. I think the parenting issue is one of the root causes. My opinion.

"Children growing up without a Father are:

5X more likely to grow up poor

9X more likely to drop out of school

20X more likely to go to jail"

President Obama

davem4616 06-14-2020 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mykvalentin (Post 1783814)
Below is a link of a video of condensed interview of few famous, prominent black people from different walks of life, sharing their different perspective.
What The Left Won’t Tell You About The Plight Of Black People And The Myth Of Systemic Racism - YouTube

What The Left Won’t Tell You About The Plight Of Black People And The Myth Of Systemic Racism - YouTube



Thank you for sharing the video....

jeraldinemarie 06-14-2020 08:40 AM

The Big Con
 
I believe that All Lives Matter and most people discriminate against ANY person that is not law abiding, moral or just plain good citizens and they come in all colors, sex and religions. It is not all about color.

Now before I post this I'll ask myself "what would and idiot do?" That made my day.

bobnyce 06-14-2020 08:41 AM

Only one plan will work - everyone must take responsibility for his or her actions and not blame society or other groups for what you have done. We all make choices, some smart some stupid but in the end it falls on the individual - no one else is to blame. My advice is think before you act the own up for what you do right or wrong!

villageuser 06-14-2020 08:45 AM

You want a quick detailed plan when there isn’t one yet to resolve the issues in the Middle East, the infrastructure decay in this country, health care in this country? Let’s be realistic. It starts with small steps, and fine-tuning as one goes along, with people unified in putting their energy and resources to making it work.

You say defund the police is a slogan? I don’t see it as that. It is a movement to take resources out of the militarization of the police (not the “usual” duties of the police but just its militarization), and give it to the community and the social services that will strengthen that community. Read what is going on in Seattle, WA (NOT from Fox News who should be ashamed of themselves) and see that plan in action. Sure sounds close to the “quick detailed plan” that you requested.

regas56 06-14-2020 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PennBF (Post 1783677)
I will retract any of this if just one person can show me just one solid and useable suggestion or idea that has been brought forward from our social leaders, the churches, law enforcements, political leaders, community activists, etc.etc. What
we have seen are meaningless slogans, labels, pontifications, etc etc. Does this sound familiar, "we need reform, we need to defund police, we need to take action, we need to recognize the errors of the past, and so many etc.'s it's not worth writing them down. There is a reason for this. It is too complicated a problem and so broad, the screamers for change, actions, etc are just not smart enough to try to provide concrete plans. All they know is how to generate riots, discontent, protests etc and pretend to help control them with "LABELS". Where do you start with the complications that brought theses terrible problem(s) to our door. This is not a one
plan or solution fits all. A detailed plan has to be brought forwards that addresses
the years of neglect of the plight of the black person, the years of raising children with the psychology that they are entitled, the build up of crime in the housing projects because of the failure to have a solid 2 parent family, the schooling system
both k-12 and College and Universities who have neglected to participate in the
need to assist to correct past abuses, a long range plan that can be applied to ensure
the action plans continue to be promoted. These are just a smattering of the need
for detail plans to disrupt the on going black issues. It is a disgrace that we have not
seen a single detailed plan to go after the many issues to solve the complicated needs of this community of people. I am personally sick of the label's and want to see the details behind the meaningless labels. :ohdear:

Watched a vey informative video where they interviewed very prominent Black men and three comments stood out to me.. 1) Morgan Freeman said if you want to get rid of racism then Shhhhh quit talking about it 24/7 it's not doing one damn bit of good.. 2) Wesley Snipes said, "cops" ain't arresting 7 year old little boys, where's daddy at? Boys need their father especially in poor neighborhoods where there's gangs and drugs running rampant.. 3) A very prominent college football coach (can't remember his name) said quit saying kids are different today, they are not, in the 40 years of recruiting kids remain exactly the same, a blank slate, it's the parents that have changed and NOT for the better.. The consensus seemed to be, dream big, don't give up, work hard, don't believe everything you see on the news and for God sake do not use the past as an excuse or a crutch for failure..

goodhnds 06-14-2020 08:47 AM

Parenting
 
It’s not the number of parents....it’s the quality of the parents. Teach your children, install values in them, require responsibility and accountability.


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