[cheweycat]

Equality and social justice for all!

[cb1972]

Many valid points have been mentioned in this thread, however after 35 years in law enforcement working in an urban area I firmly believe these issues are not race specific but rather arise out of a culture of poverty. I have seen family’s of all races repeat the same cycle generation after generation. Reliance on the welfare trap , thinking government Should take take care of them . I don’t have the answers but maybe early intervention in the schools , using role models etc. to perhaps show there are different paths available.

[regas56]

Originally Posted by goodhnds

It’s not the number of parents....it’s the quality of the parents. Teach your children, install values in them, require responsibility and accountability.

Explain to me how that is even possible.. A single Mom raising 3 kids alone because daddy abandoned them working 2-3 jobs with terrible benefits just to put food in their stomachs and a roof over their heads to me is a quality parent.. Children living without at least ONE guardian around to keep an eye out for the dangers and poor decisions that are sure to arise in a child's youth especially in many of these poor neighborhoods are nearly impossible to contend with even if you are the most qualified of parents..

[LoisR]

Try this for size: "Treat all people the way you expect you be treated."

[Villages Kahuna]

We’d better hope that someone has the well thought-out, responsibly constructed ideas, principles and morality that you’re looking for. Because those will be the people from whom we’ll be choosing to govern our country.

[Cgunn]

The creation of a civilian police oversight and cop violence citation database would go a long way toward holding the agressive cops to account and dismissal. IT'S A START!

[Scorpyo]

Originally Posted by Burgy

Not withstanding your exceptions. I think the parenting issue is one of the root causes. My opinion.

You are absolutely correct. Unfortunately it is the one root for which there is no solution. All the other roots are fixable. It would probably take one to two generations to fix those problems. In the meantime the opportunists will jump on any opportunity to further their political aspirations and/or fill their coffers utilizing any and all means at their disposal. So, expect to see more.

[kenoc7]

Originally Posted by PennBF

I will retract any of this if just one person can show me just one solid and useable suggestion or idea that has been brought forward from our social leaders, the churches, law enforcements, political leaders, community activists, etc.etc. What
we have seen are meaningless slogans, labels, pontifications, etc etc. Does this sound familiar, "we need reform, we need to defund police, we need to take action, we need to recognize the errors of the past, and so many etc.'s it's not worth writing them down. There is a reason for this. It is too complicated a problem and so broad, the screamers for change, actions, etc are just not smart enough to try to provide concrete plans. All they know is how to generate riots, discontent, protests etc and pretend to help control them with "LABELS". Where do you start with the complications that brought theses terrible problem(s) to our door. This is not a one
plan or solution fits all. A detailed plan has to be brought forwards that addresses
the years of neglect of the plight of the black person, the years of raising children with the psychology that they are entitled, the build up of crime in the housing projects because of the failure to have a solid 2 parent family, the schooling system
both k-12 and College and Universities who have neglected to participate in the
need to assist to correct past abuses, a long range plan that can be applied to ensure
the action plans continue to be promoted. These are just a smattering of the need
for detail plans to disrupt the on going black issues. It is a disgrace that we have not
seen a single detailed plan to go after the many issues to solve the complicated needs of this community of people. I am personally sick of the label's and want to see the details behind the meaningless labels.

You obviously haven't been paying attention - lots of real changes in a number of places already, e.g., banning chokeholds.

[schladb]

Originally Posted by PennBF

I will retract any of this if just one person can show me just one solid and useable suggestion or idea that has been brought forward from our social leaders, the churches, law enforcements, political leaders, community activists, etc.etc. What
we have seen are meaningless slogans, labels, pontifications, etc etc. Does this sound familiar, "we need reform, we need to defund police, we need to take action, we need to recognize the errors of the past, and so many etc.'s it's not worth writing them down. There is a reason for this. It is too complicated a problem and so broad, the screamers for change, actions, etc are just not smart enough to try to provide concrete plans. All they know is how to generate riots, discontent, protests etc and pretend to help control them with "LABELS". Where do you start with the complications that brought theses terrible problem(s) to our door. This is not a one
plan or solution fits all. A detailed plan has to be brought forwards that addresses
the years of neglect of the plight of the black person, the years of raising children with the psychology that they are entitled, the build up of crime in the housing projects because of the failure to have a solid 2 parent family, the schooling system
both k-12 and College and Universities who have neglected to participate in the
need to assist to correct past abuses, a long range plan that can be applied to ensure
the action plans continue to be promoted. These are just a smattering of the need
for detail plans to disrupt the on going black issues. It is a disgrace that we have not
seen a single detailed plan to go after the many issues to solve the complicated needs of this community of people. I am personally sick of the label's and want to see the details behind the meaningless labels.

The church has a plan in fact it is written in stone THE TEN COMMANDMENTS. Some people want it taken off public building and not followed. Just think if everyone followed them how wonderful life would be.

[Nancy DeGiacomo]

Originally Posted by PennBF

I will retract any of this if just one person can show me just one solid and useable suggestion or idea that has been brought forward from our social leaders, the churches, law enforcements, political leaders, community activists, etc.etc. What
we have seen are meaningless slogans, labels, pontifications, etc etc. Does this sound familiar, "we need reform, we need to defund police, we need to take action, we need to recognize the errors of the past, and so many etc.'s it's not worth writing them down. There is a reason for this. It is too complicated a problem and so broad, the screamers for change, actions, etc are just not smart enough to try to provide concrete plans. All they know is how to generate riots, discontent, protests etc and pretend to help control them with "LABELS". Where do you start with the complications that brought theses terrible problem(s) to our door. This is not a one
plan or solution fits all. A detailed plan has to be brought forwards that addresses
the years of neglect of the plight of the black person, the years of raising children with the psychology that they are entitled, the build up of crime in the housing projects because of the failure to have a solid 2 parent family, the schooling system
both k-12 and College and Universities who have neglected to participate in the
need to assist to correct past abuses, a long range plan that can be applied to ensure
the action plans continue to be promoted. These are just a smattering of the need
for detail plans to disrupt the on going black issues. It is a disgrace that we have not
seen a single detailed plan to go after the many issues to solve the complicated needs of this community of people. I am personally sick of the label's and want to see the details behind the meaningless labels.

It needs to start with two caring parents.

[Mustagotlost]

Defunding police is not an option. How many Seattle, Chas’ would spring up? 72% of whites and 51% of blacks are in favor of policing.

[jfkilduff]

These protesters should have their own separate communities just like sanctuary Cities. Let them fund their own police, fire and governments.

[wsachs]

How about the Commander in Chief too!

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by cb1972

Many valid points have been mentioned in this thread, however after 35 years in law enforcement working in an urban area I firmly believe these issues are not race specific but rather arise out of a culture of poverty. I have seen family’s of all races repeat the same cycle generation after generation. Reliance on the welfare trap , thinking government Should take take care of them . I don’t have the answers but maybe early intervention in the schools , using role models etc. to perhaps show there are different paths available.

All great points, but using this forum as a guide.....role models are mocked on here as well (see Lebron James)

It is poverty and not color of skin. Nobody speaks to the emergence of the WHITE hate groups...they ARE tolerated and seem to be honored at times.

To believe that skin color dictates how you act is more than slightly dumb.

People who call for role models are hypocrites for the most part. They will say it and then when one emerges, the immediately look to mock them.

Again....To believe that skin color dictates how you act is more than slightly dumb.

[silverh]

More folks should watch you-tube video's of Shelby Steele and Candace Owens. Explains quite a bit about this unrest in history and what should be done.