[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by PennBF

I will retract any of this if just one person can show me just one solid and useable suggestion or idea that has been brought forward from our social leaders, the churches, law enforcements, political leaders, community activists, etc.etc. What
we have seen are meaningless slogans, labels, pontifications, etc etc. Does this sound familiar, "we need reform, we need to defund police, we need to take action, we need to recognize the errors of the past, and so many etc.'s it's not worth writing them down. There is a reason for this. It is too complicated a problem and so broad, the screamers for change, actions, etc are just not smart enough to try to provide concrete plans. All they know is how to generate riots, discontent, protests etc and pretend to help control them with "LABELS". Where do you start with the complications that brought theses terrible problem(s) to our door. This is not a one
plan or solution fits all. A detailed plan has to be brought forwards that addresses
the years of neglect of the plight of the black person, the years of raising children with the psychology that they are entitled, the build up of crime in the housing projects because of the failure to have a solid 2 parent family, the schooling system
both k-12 and College and Universities who have neglected to participate in the
need to assist to correct past abuses, a long range plan that can be applied to ensure
the action plans continue to be promoted. These are just a smattering of the need
for detail plans to disrupt the on going black issues. It is a disgrace that we have not
seen a single detailed plan to go after the many issues to solve the complicated needs of this community of people. I am personally sick of the label's and want to see the details behind the meaningless labels.

Return the tax code to the % percentages used in the 1950s. Eliminate charter schools and return the money and resources to public education. Require ALL new real estate developments to provide affordable homes in the proportion to the ethnicity of the area, which would allow schools to NOT need busing and meld the races together socially and by DNA, hopefully in the future. Have MORE IRS auditors to prevent tax cheating. Reduce Supreme Court terms to 6 years, not lifetime. Cross-train ALL police officers approaching retirement within 5 or 10 years into the Post Office or Peace Corps. Keep Police in rookie academies for 3 years like Denmark to properly evaluate the and eliminate the power/aggresive, violence prone individuals. I could go on and on etc.

[Steve9930]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

What do you expect, when privileged whites are given much lighter sentences or let off...for the same things in which blacks are prosecuted & incarcerated?

Or do you think it's just a coincidence, that 70% of those cleared by DNA in the 'Innocence Project' are minorities...and 63% are black?

Innocence Project (click here)



Simply a coincidence?

I don't think so.

If I hear that "Privileged White" nonsense one more time I'm going to scream. Its nothing but an excuse for failure. You should read Dr, Shelby Steele and you might just understand the problem. Not the spin.

[Dust Bunny]

Originally Posted by PennBF

I will retract any of this if just one person can show me just one solid and useable suggestion or idea that has been brought forward from our social leaders, the churches, law enforcements, political leaders, community activists, etc.etc. What
we have seen are meaningless slogans, labels, pontifications, etc etc. Does this sound familiar, "we need reform, we need to defund police, we need to take action, we need to recognize the errors of the past, and so many etc.'s it's not worth writing them down. There is a reason for this. It is too complicated a problem and so broad, the screamers for change, actions, etc are just not smart enough to try to provide concrete plans. All they know is how to generate riots, discontent, protests etc and pretend to help control them with "LABELS". Where do you start with the complications that brought theses terrible problem(s) to our door. This is not a one
plan or solution fits all. A detailed plan has to be brought forwards that addresses
the years of neglect of the plight of the black person, the years of raising children with the psychology that they are entitled, the build up of crime in the housing projects because of the failure to have a solid 2 parent family, the schooling system
both k-12 and College and Universities who have neglected to participate in the
need to assist to correct past abuses, a long range plan that can be applied to ensure
the action plans continue to be promoted. These are just a smattering of the need
for detail plans to disrupt the on going black issues. It is a disgrace that we have not
seen a single detailed plan to go after the many issues to solve the complicated needs of this community of people. I am personally sick of the label's and want to see the details behind the meaningless labels.

Do you prefer anarchy? What's really needed is a better selection process, better training, and more supervision all of which cost money. That's how you get a professional police force. Your letting the tail wag the dog! The actions of one police officer does not represent all police officers, nor does it warrant wholesale looting, and arson or the ambushing of police. You eally need to think this issue through.

There are roughly 18,000 police departments in the US of that number are 12,501 local departments with the average force size of 10 sworn officers.

[Steve9930]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Return the tax code to the % percentages used in the 1950s. Eliminate charter schools and return the money and resources to public education. Require ALL new real estate developments to provide affordable homes in the proportion to the ethnicity of the area, which would allow schools to NOT need busing and meld the races together socially and by DNA, hopefully in the future. Have MORE IRS auditors to prevent tax cheating. Reduce Supreme Court terms to 6 years, not lifetime. Cross-train ALL police officers approaching retirement within 5 or 10 years into the Post Office or Peace Corps. Keep Police in rookie academies for 3 years like Denmark to properly evaluate the and eliminate the power/aggresive, violence prone individuals. I could go on and on etc.

I have no read one thing here that will solve anything.

[E Cascade]

As a human being I think each of us gets excited about helping ourselves and others to get better with our God-given talents. BUT, what comes with that is the responsibility to do our best with those gifts. I personally believe the people we are trying to help need to be "taught how to fish, not given a fish to simply eat." We cannot fight injustices against others. We need to stand in our shoes and declare that what we are doing in our skin will be the best we can offer.......and that does not mean stealing another's opportunity to stand in his/her shoes to become a better person. It means respecting that another has thoughts, feelings, gripes, abuse done to him/her, successes given to him/her, ......whatever. It's rather complex, yet rather simple. Do what you should be doing to make the planet a better place, or you are just part of the problem.

[Steve9930]

There are two places that influence a child as they grow up. The parents and the schools. Those are the two entities in control of a child's development. Both are failing their job in many cases. Discipline and education.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I could go on and on etc.

please don't, i can't stop laughing as it is.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by kenoc7

You obviously haven't been paying attention - lots of real changes in a number of places already, e.g., banning chokeholds.

Choke holds does not respond to OP's, "...........detail plans to disrupt the on going black issues."

[jbrown132]

Thank God you didn’t

[bpascani]

Thank you for sharing this U Tube. These men are amazing, and a wonderful inspiration.

[kathy1516]

Originally Posted by Polar Bear

No. Claiming that statistically a “solid 2-parent family” is not more beneficial to children than a single parent home is a really stupid insertion. And I mean REALLY stupid.

I think your missing the point. The black multigenerational family lacks strong parenting against having children out of wedlock. It appears to be a rite of passage to have children no matter what the consequences. The change to black lives isn’t from carrying banners with black lives matter, but should come from within the home. There is no consequences to these single women as they have grown up with the thought government will take care of us. This comes from generations of living off the government. The black issues start at home. Their parents and their parents’ parents provide no parenting skills and the cycle continues. The liberals want to keep the blacks oppressed and dependent on the government. In all the years of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton stirring up hate and violence has not helped anyone. Where have they been for decades? Why aren’t they encouraging education and having children when they marry and can afford them. Where are their plans for real change in the communities? What have they accomplished to change race relations? NOTHING!!!

[Byte1]

IMO the real "CON" is all those supposed bleeding hearts that believe that there is a "plight of the black person." The plight is history and that cannot be erased no matter how many reminders are destroyed. The black person and the females in this country have the same Constitutional protections and rights as any other citizen. I am not going to apologize for what someone did in the past that has no bearing on how I treat people. America has learned from our forefathers' mistakes so that we do not make the same ones. Time for bleeding hearts to find something else to protest, demonstrate or to be activists for. What's a matter, tree hugging is going out of style?
My motto for this year is going to be "NEWS FLASH: I DON'T CARE." Come up with a legitimate problem and if I can help, I will. I am not going to carry anyone on my back just because someone in our past was a big meanie.

I do not believe we have a law enforcement problem. I believe in every profession we have some bad employees, but they are not the majority or the average. They are the exception. If you do not want to meet those bad actors in the police force, then don't commit unlawful acts and do not run or fight a COP when he approaches you. If a career criminal dies in an unfortunate act, I am sorry, but do the crime and do the time.

It is no longer the black man that has the "plight." I am not going to apologize for an element's failure in our society when EVERYONE has bent over backwards to make EVERYONE feel part of the American family. How much more free stuff and free hands to the top before some of us realize that some folks need to walk on their own instead of being carried?
I am not a racist. I believe in equal rights and treatment that is decent to ALL people. But, like I said I am not going to apologize to anyone for what someone else did many years ago. And I do not apologize for what the police did to Floyd. I didn't do it and I have no idea of the motivation or cause of the death. All I know is that because of it, at least one good man died (Capt Dorn) as a result. Whether Floyd is responsible or not, he was part of the cause. As much as the police that may or may not have handled the situation with bad intent.
Maybe if some folks would just treat minorities the same, not special, then folks would become color blind.

[jjombrello]

What you say may be true, however, you conveniently glossed over the word "solid" in the statement of a "solid, 2-parent family". Statistics and studies, over many years and situations, have proven that children raised in solid, 2-parent homes have a better chance at success in the world than those that don't. This has been particularly true of those families that have lived and survived in the housing complexes occupied for the most part by our black, fellow Americans. It's sad that those conditions prevail, but they will not be resolved if one sticks their head in the sand and fails to admit they exist. Throwing money at this problems has totally failed as a solution so, until we get people who really care, in places of governance, with the fortitude to take politics out of the equation, and enact something meaningful, this problem may be with us for a long time.

[jacksonbrown]

PennBF, you might enjoy this

Years of teaching blacks to have grievances against white people for things that happened centuries ago have come to fruition. Rioting and looting are not enough, the violent thugs and ignorant woke creatures are pulling down historic monuments in public parks and defacing public buildings while police and public authorities stand down.

Education Is Offensive and Racist and so is America

[BarryD]

What plan or solution did you have in mind?