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He was not released because he is innocent. He was released on a technicality that happened during the court process that found him guilty.

Whether he is innocent or guilty of anything doesn’t really matter at this point as his reputation is destroyed, he has probably spent a million dollars or more for lawyers, and at 81 years old he ultimately served two years in jail. What does matter here is that is a case of prosecutorial misconduct where his rights were violated thus the conviction was overturned as it should have been. I wouldn’t be surprised if he didn’t sue the city for his attorney fees and damages.

He definitely IS guilty but he was released because the original prosecutor gave him immunity from criminal prosecution in exchange for his testimony in the civil case. Years later another prosecutor rescinded that and he was prosecuted. The conviction was thrown out because of (I guess) prosecutorial misconduct, not because he is innocent, he isn’t.

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1966746)

Bill Cosby released, conviction in sexual assault case overturned

Makes no sense to me. If John Dillinger robbed PA bank 1 and was found not guilty because he made some agreement with the PA prosecutor so that the bank could anything expect that he is a bank robber? He is a bank robber as many could attest. And a well known bank robber. Even if his ex-wife says he does not rob banks.

There seem to be many accusers of Bill Cosby and he admitted in one of these cases that he did it but that was to stop his facing future criminal charges. These other accusers could have been cross-examined by Cosby's lawyers.

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Originally Posted by Becca9800 (Post 1966841)

And Cosby says otherwise. So.....

Do the math……60 to 1
Do you always bet long-shots?

Also, in his civil case, …….
HE CONFESSED!

Just the facts a few statistics

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Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 1966784)

sad that lawyers continue to rule the world that we live in

I'm amazed at all the paperwork I need to sign every time I go to a doctor's office...because his lawyer is trying to protect him from some other guy's lawyer

if there's only one lawyer in town he barely makes a living...two lawyers in a town and they both become multi millionaires

IMHO, we should shut down all the law schools and transform them into medical schools, nursing schools, and trade schools...we have more than enough lawyers...let's educate some people in careers that actually add value

The United States population consists of 6% of the total Worlds population, however the United States has 76% of ALL the lawyers of the World. Considering that is the main reason that our system is at a breaking point with so many lawsuits being filed and cases going to trial.

For what I have heard the vast majority of the civil cases will be thrown out as the statute of limitations has long since expired. I suspect BC was a pig, but not a single one of these people came forward when the alleged allegation took place. Where is the evidence? How many of these accusers just see a quick buck in the future. Woman have got to learn that when something like this happens you have to go to the police immediately even if you believe no one will listen to you not 25 years later. At least it will be on record.

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1966756)

Bill Cosby sexual assault cases - Wikipedia

Not in a lot of matters it looks like.

And yet Hollywood still airs his reruns………..blows my mind

Our country is now for the thugs, crooks, murders, etc. Druggies are heroes. Murders are ok. Rapists weren't treated unfairly.

Is it too late for our country?

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Originally Posted by Eg_cruz (Post 1967004)

And yet Hollywood still airs his reruns………..blows my mind

But whatever you do don't put Dukes of Hazard on tv.

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1966931)

So, a criminal prosecutor agreed not to prosecute Cosby for a crime so that a plaintiff in a civil court case could get money from Cosby? That sounds like obstruction of justice and illegal. Why is a criminal prosecutor even involved in a civil court case?

The issue was the civil case brought by one of his victims. The prosecutor, named Bruce Castor [you can look him up, he's been in the news for more than the Cosby case] decided that this victim would be a poor witness and that he wouldn't be able to get a conviction of Cosby based on her testimony and actions. He then made a public statement that his office would not use anything from the civil trial deposition to prosecute Cosby. Why he said this I do not know, but it forced Cosby to not invoke the 5th amendment when questioned in his civil case. You cannot refuse to answer a question if you are not at risk of being charged with a crime. While Castor did not later charge Cosby, the prosecutors who replaced him in office did so. The Pennsylvania court by a 6-1 vote held that the immunity granted Cosby by Bruce Castor was binding.

You can read the actual court opinion on CNN HERE.
The introduction to the opinion states the facts clearly:

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In 2005, Montgomery County District Attorney Bruce Castor learned that Andrea Constand had reported that William Cosby had sexually assaulted her in 2004 at his Cheltenham residence. Along with his top deputy prosecutor and experienced detectives, District Attorney Castor thoroughly investigated Constand’s claim. In evaluating the likelihood of a successful prosecution of Cosby, the district attorney foresaw difficulties with Constand’s credibility as a witness based, in part, upon her decision not to file a complaint promptly. D.A. Castor further determined that a prosecution would be frustrated because there was no corroborating forensic evidence and because testimony from other potential claimants against Cosby likely was inadmissible under governing laws of evidence. The collective weight of these considerations led D.A. Castor to conclude that, unless Cosby confessed, “there was insufficient credible and admissible evidence upon which any charge against Mr. Cosby related to the Constand incident could be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.”

Seeking “some measure of justice” for Constand, D.A. Castor decided that the Commonwealth would decline to prosecute Cosby for the incident involving Constand, thereby allowing Cosby to be forced to testify in a subsequent civil action, under penalty of perjury, without the benefit of his Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination. Unable to invoke any right not to testify in the civil proceedings, Cosby relied upon the district attorney’s declination and proceeded to provide four sworn depositions. During those depositions, Cosby made several incriminating statements. D.A. Castor’s successors did not feel bound by his decision, and decided to prosecute Cosby notwithstanding that prior undertaking. The fruits of Cosby’s reliance upon D.A. Castor’s decision Cosby’s sworn inculpatory testimony were then used by D.A. Castor’s successors against Cosby at Cosby’s criminal trial.

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Originally Posted by Becca9800 (Post 1966767)

Wikipedia is not a credible source, anyone can add whatever they like to any issue within. Take what you read there w a grain of salt.

As of November 2015, eight related civil suits were active against him. Of course, he was an easy mark with lots of $$ and 1/2 of the country already hating him.Gloria Allred is representing 33 of the alleged victims. Ugh! Talking about credibility. ALL women are not to be believed! Nuff said.In July 2015, some court records were unsealed and released to the public from Andrea Constand's 2005 civil suit against Cosby. The full transcript of his deposition was released to the media by a court reporting service. Sounds like grounds for legal action to me. In his testimony, Cosby admitted to casual sexwhile married. Makes him a pig, not a rapist. involving recreational use of the sedative-hypnotic methaqualone (Quaaludes)And? Pretty sure many in our generation liked their Quaaludes back in the day. with a series of young womenYoung, no minors, not illegal., and he acknowledged that his dispensing the prescription drug was illegal.Dispensing? C'mon.

Was he the most upstanding guy? Don't think so. Did he deserve prison time? Don't think so.

So I guess you can just be grateful that your mom, you, your daughter or your granddaughter never came across Bill. I think sometimes people forget we are talking about someone’s loved ones……

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Originally Posted by Eg_cruz (Post 1967004)

And yet Hollywood still airs his reruns………..blows my mind

Please tell me, what Hollywood organization, or any other network is airing Cosby's reruns? I am sure you wouldn't have written that post if you were not certain that it was true. Attacking Hollywood is always good for scoring points.

Now that his conviction has been set aside, do you believe he belongs back on TV or do you favor continuing to "cancel" him?

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Originally Posted by Girlcopper (Post 1966928)

Not true at all in this day and age. Thats in the old days

Totally false. While the "Metoo movement may have helped slightly, the vast majority of cases still aren't reported - especially against the wealthy or celebrities. Cosby's situation will certainly not increase the percentage of reported cases either and is the perfect example of why women are reluctant to go through everything that is involved in going to the police.

Facts and Statistics – Central MN Sexual Assault Center

LAWYERS, LAWYERS, LAWYERS
How about Sumter County ? A case in process. $ 700+ dollar larceny, a confession, videos, well documented. The case is 18 months old and the State Attorney has no resolution on the horizon. The victim has never been contacted by the State Attorney. Expect victims to be victims of the system.
It’s real people!

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1966746)

Bill Cosby released, conviction in sexual assault case overturned

Makes no sense to me. If John Dillinger robbed PA bank 1 and was found not guilty because he made some agreement with the PA prosecutor so that the bank could sue him for the money in a civil case and then he robs bank 2 in another county in PA and is found guilty why should his agreement with bank 1 have any bearing on anything expect that he is a bank robber? He is a bank robber as many could attest. And a well known bank robber. Even if his ex-wife says he does not rob banks.

There seem to be many accusers of Bill Cosby and he admitted in one of these cases that he did it but that was to stop his facing future criminal charges. These other accusers could have been cross-examined by Cosby's lawyers.

There is a difference between justice which is about "fairness" and the truth. The purpose of courts is to achieve justice which give them legitimacy and authority. The court found that his agreement with a prosecutor required him --in effect-- to testify against himself which is unfair.