As you seem to be familiar with the details of the charges against Cosby, I wonder why you would cherry pick those details. Firstly. all of us should "stand with those accused" whether the alleged crime occurred decades ago or last week. That is the precious presumption of innocence which all defendants are granted. But there is a procedure under Pennsylvania law for the granting of immunity. It is encoded in the rules of the state and is certainly known to any prosecutor as to exactly what needs to be done to actually grant that immunity. You can read the details of what those requirements are in the court decision.

Bruce Castor completely ignored the rules and regulations for the grant of immunity which must be made in writing and signed. Immunity is NOT granted under the law of Pennsylvania by a prosecutor giving a press conference. So there was a real issue of law as to whether Cosby's statements in his depositions were somehow protected and whether or not he could have taken the 5th in those depositions. Again read the details in the court record. In fact this had already been litigated and the lower court held that there was NO promise of immunity and that Cosby's statements could be used against him. It was entirely reasonable for the later prosecutors to proceed with a trial given the opinion of the lower courts.


Please read the Penn Supreme Court's opinion on pages 26 - 27 which details the failures of Bruce Castor to follow the requirements of the law in the granting of immunity, if he intended to do so. And also explains that the victims attorney in the civil case never asked or was told that Cosby had been granted immunity:

All the fault in this case goes to the actions of Bruce Castor who is excoriated by the Penn Supreme Court's opinion. He failed to follow the rules of the state in granting immunity, if he meant to do so. He issued a confusing press release which included a line saying his office would revisit the criminal charges if more information became available which certainly does NOT sound like he is never going to prosecute.

The later prosecutors found more evidence of a pattern of drugging women to get them to not resist or even clearly remember Cosby's sexual predation. Contrary to what what written in this thread he DID admit to using Quaaludes mixed with alcohol on victims other that the one in the criminal indictment. Some of those other victims were allowed under Pennsylvania law to testify to establish a pattern of behavior of Cosby in the second trial, again those additional witnesses are allowed under the law.

The prosecutors who charged and convicted Cosby followed the law exactly. There was no proper grant of immunity. They developed additional witnesses and evidence. They tried and convicted Cosby based on his actions, the evidence and the law. The Supreme Court overturned the conviction because it disagreed with the lower court about the details of the meaning of the words in the press conference and whether the statements of Bruce Castor should be taken as an improper but still binding grant of immunity. And as our system of laws often does, any ambiguity is resolved to the benefit of the person harmed by the error.

I wanted so badly to think Bill Cosby was innocent. He was a brilliant and clever performer, and I thought such an educated man.

However, I am undecided now, again, about him being innocent of SO many charges.

But...I always wonder when a rich man is charged with these kinds of charges.

It saddens me to see an old man who used to be quite treasured, now shamed for possibly good reasons.

I wonder so many things. Usually if there is smoke, there is fire.

That's rich. Given you did exactly as you accused me of doing (your posts are cherry-picked down to the pits.)

6-1 in favor of BC. 2 justices questioned if Castor had the authority to do what he did. “We should reject Castor’s misguided notion outright and declare that district attorneys do not possess this effective pardon power,” Justice Kevin Dougherty wrote in a partial dissent.

But they didn't reject outright, did they? Instead, they overturned the lower Court's ruling.

And the Court would have found in favor of BC again re: allowing 5 accusers to testify at 2nd trial, according to every legal expert I've heard discussing the issue.

BTW, thanks for the lesson on 'innocent until proven guilty', I did not know that's how it all worked.

My younger brother would make jokes about Bill Cosby and those Jell-O Pudding Pops he marketed. This was often done in a lewd manner by my younger brother. He had a job with rental cars at the Reno Airport for a few years and would have heard the gossip about celebs playing the Reno-Tahoe area casinos like Bill Cosby. It also seemed that some show girls would not go near Bill Cosby. There was a lot of money invested by different people and corporations in the image of Bill Cosby.

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HE ADMITTED that he did it. He is guilty, and we know he's guilty, because he admitted to committing the crime, and admitted that he committed it not just on one woman, but on multiple women, at different times. He admitted that he slipped quaaludes into drinks that his victims drank, and then took advantage of their inebriation to have sex with them while they were unable to withhold consent.

The reason this is a big deal is NOT because he's innocent. It's NOT because we "don't know" enough. It's NOT because he "might not have done it." The reason it's a big deal is because he admitted it in exchange for immunity against criminal prosecution during a civil suit, and then the prosecution reneged on their promise.

That's why it's a big deal.

He IS an educated man.

He ADMITTED that he put quaaludes (prescription muscle relaxers) into alcoholic beverages that he gave women who he then had sex with after they were too inebriated to protest. He admitted this years ago.

He shamed himself.

However, some people can separate fiction from reality. Dr. Huxtable was a great role-model. He was also a fictional character on a sit-com. Bill Cosby, the actor who played Dr. Huxtable, is an incredibly talented actor. He was also a sexual predator. I say was, because I'm going out on a limb here and assuming that he isn't capable of being a predator of any kind, anymore, and no woman in their right mind would let him buy them a drink, anymore.

The women who did not report Bill Cosby also feared being blacklisted by the powers that be in their various professions especially if this was in the casino, entertainment, education and athletic areas. Cosby had a great deal of influence through much of his career.

He admitted to consensual sex with multiple women. He admitted to offering drugs to women he wanted to have sex w. He denied ever giving drugs to a woman wo her knowledge. He maintains today that he did nothing illegal. He's long said he would serve his full 10 year sentence before admitting to any wrongdoing. He refused to take a a sexual deviant re-education course in prison which caused his petition for parole to be denied.

YOU know no such thing. Unless YOU were there, YOU don't know how it went down. YOU believe him to be guilty.

<sigh> repetition does not make your beliefs any more factual.


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Nothing I've read bears out your claim. Give me a credible source for your belief.

Seems it's a big deal on both counts, at least to some. Including you. You first wanted to point out that he was guilty, followed by why he's guilty. You seem angered that he was released. No? The real issue here didn't come into play until your closing paragraph. But no worries, I'm sure you were just saving the best for last. People are enraged that he was released. The enraged don't care a whit about the 5A violation. I hear them bemoaning all day long about the guilty one that had enough power, money, friends and influence to get away w multiple rapes. Not once did I hear any tandem concern for his rights, or even an acknowledgment that his rights were trampled. And I agree, it is a huge deal.

Bill Cosby sexual assault cases - Wikipedia

Worth a close reading of this. I would not want Bill Cosby anywhere near my grand niece, nieces, or anyone else.

He was released from a just sentence on a legal technicality to punish a prosecutor for that man's actions or negligence in his practice of the law. What about the victims and where is the equity in this?

Cosby smiles during victimology testimony | Page Six

This is also deeply troubling.

There are many kinds of sexual exploitation. Two stand out to me;

One done by men when they say or do things untruthfully to coerce a woman to have sex and use drugs or alcohol. (That method is very old)

The other is the kind when a woman uses a man for monetary gain or attaining a more powerful position of some kind for having sex. (Even people holding high positions in government have used these) (That method is also very old.)

My mother said this to us girls; "They won't buy the cow, if they get the milk free." That seems to not be valid anymore.

Bill Cosby was Bill Cosby the comedian before he played Dr. Huxtable. I'm sure that most of us remember Bill Cosby talking about his real wife and kids during his stand up routines. Everyone loved him and found him to be very relatable.

Then these shocking allegations came out and this is simply not something that people wanted to believe about the man. How could funny, lovable, decent Bill Cosby have such a dark side to his character?

Phylicia Rashad worked closely with Bill Cosby for years and never saw that side to him. I'm not sure how that's possible given the number of women Cosby is alleged to have assaulted over the years....but I do believe Phylicia when she says that she never saw Cosby behaving inappropriately towards women.

The whole thing is a tragedy on so many different levels. It's one of those things that a lot of people don't want to believe. But if he actually admitted to drugging women in order to have his way with then what else can we believe? It's horrible.

Bill Cosby Allegedly Fired Lisa Bonet from A Different World for Getting Pregnant

It seemed to be seen by other people in the Cosby show.

The civil suits against Crosby are unlikely to produce beneficial results for the women suing Crosby, assuming his asset protection lawyers are competent. The man has good lawyers, and it is unlikely that he will not use all the time he has between these suits being filed and the resulting judgments being entered, to get himself in a position to avoid paying any judgments. While the law prevents someone from "giving away" assets to avoid judgments (i.e. fraudulent transfers) one can always retain one's assets while merely changing the form of the assets from assets which are not exempt from judgment creditors to assets which are exempt from judgment creditors. I am unaware of how homestead law works in PA, but there is a good reason OJ now resides in Florida, where your homestead, irrespective of value, is exempt from the claims of creditors. Also, in Florida, annuities are assets which are exempt from the claims of creditors, and I would assume that Crosby and his lawyers are smart enough to know these things. Wouldn't be surprised to see Crosby sell his home in PA and move to FL, after having most, if not all, of his liquid cash assets converted into annuities. While doing these things are always inconvenient, and sometimes difficult to accomplish, in any case, these are just two of many ways to validly and legally
prevent creditors from taking your assets.

They already sued him, and they already got paid. He was criminally prosecuted AFTER those lawsuits.

He was sued by 7 women for defamation, his insurance carrier settled wo his approval, it wasn't required. Cosby was angry his carrier settled, he maintains his innocence as of this day. "Each of the plaintiffs were satisfied with the settlement."

Another abandoned her claim.

There is one pending.

Please provide reference to one co-star that spoke out against him.

Denise Huxtable was an unmarried college student when married Lisa Bonet became pregnant. It was pitched that Denise would give birth and raise the baby alone. Bill said, Lisa Bonet is pregnant, Denise Huxtable is not." Guess he had a vision of the traditional family and its values. So it seems Bill didn't fire Lisa bc she was pregnant, she simply didn't fit the role he wanted portrayed.

Right. Like a typical Dad has how many women accusing him of sexual assault in some way?

Right. Funny how they came out of the woodwork. All at the same time.

Do you have a reference to back up your claim? Or no?

Crosby?

The singer or the hockey player?

Any reputable newspaper article on Bill Cosby's behavior toward women published in the past 3 years or so. https://www.latimes.com/entertainmen...htmlstory.html

The laughable leftist LA Times is behind a pay wall and I'm not paying to read that crap.

Is there a co-star lending to the accuser's credibility within this LA Times article??? THAT was the request, one co-star speaking out against BC. Bc I found nothing in my search for same. Nothing where a co-star said he exhibited un-welcomed behavior. Nothing suggesting such behavior was part and parcel w BC. Yet there you are posting articles and putting YOUR inflammatory spin on same.

I feel sorry for his victims. I think we can say he is no threat anymore except psychologically which can be just as bad as psychically. Time will solve this one. If he assaulted as many as came forward and made a claim I would imagine revenge of some sort is on their mind.

He will be fighting lawsuits till his grave.

IF he's guilty as accused, I hope he burns in Hell. How any of us, sitting in our nicely padded TV armchairs can make that call is so beyond me. And to those who think they were there, are prosecutor, jury AND judge, I'm thinking you too might be bound for the same ending. May God have mercy on your judgemental souls.

How about stating the facts. Bill Cosby outfoxed the law but he’ll never escape his guilt | World | The Sunday Times

What do you want? I can find 10 articles that dispute your one. Bottom line, you weren't there, you are not privy to all the details and facts. Admit that you have no idea if he's guilty or innocent. Please, just admit you are a judgemental individual. That you are all-knowing, all-wise to/of everything in our Universe, and we'll at last agree on something. G'nite now, I've wasted enough time here.