[OhioBuckeye]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

Simple.
Cosby had better lawyer than Dillinger!

You know robbery & what Bill Cosby did is like Apples & Orange’s. Not saying either one is right but they both got what law required for their crime. But think about all the other sex crimes over the yrs. & what they got. Cosby never killed anybody & just me but I think he did his time. I got to spend a little time with Mr. Cosby yrs. back when he visited Fo. Mo. Co. He was a great dad & husband! Personally I was shocked when charges was brought against him.

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Bill Cosby released, conviction in sexual assault case overturned

Makes no sense to me. If John Dillinger robbed PA bank 1 and was found not guilty because he made some agreement with the PA prosecutor so that the bank could sue him for the money in a civil case and then he robs bank 2 in another county in PA and is found guilty why should his agreement with bank 1 have any bearing on anything expect that he is a bank robber? He is a bank robber as many could attest. And a well known bank robber. Even if his ex-wife says he does not rob banks.

There seem to be many accusers of Bill Cosby and he admitted in one of these cases that he did it but that was to stop his facing future criminal charges. These other accusers could have been cross-examined by Cosby's lawyers.

Ancient debate. Law, crime, is our goal to punish, or to reform. Fame, often sets a new standard as it becomes a public issue. Then with Bill Cosby we can toss in the endless race issue.

Accepting a plea sadly is a major part of our legal system. Fair, a regularly used term is in the eye of the beholder. Punishment often depends on your budget as well as who you know and what others know you might release about them.

[Spalumbos62]

Originally Posted by blueash

No one has written as to why Cosby was freed and protected from further prosecutions for his druggings and sexual assaults. He was facing civil suits from his victims. The statute of limitations was nearing its limit. The local prosecutor told Cosby that they would NOT use anything he said in the civil suit to prosecute him. So Cosby told the truth, or some of the truth, in his civil suit including that he had given drugs to women to lower their resistance to sex with him.

The prosecutor then used that testimony to indict and try Cosby. The court ruled that the promise of the prosecutor to not use his civil court testimony was binding, like a promise of immunity. It then vacated his conviction as it depended on prohibited information. Yes money talks and it buys good lawyers too. But the rule of law is important and the court seems to have gotten this one right even though it allows a likely guilty man to walk.

Exactly....thank you for writing this. It's not that he was innocent, the law worked for him. Others can still pursue him- if statue has not run out.

This whole situation is absurd, and I feel bad for all those victims, BUT, I can appreciate that the law worked.

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by Notsocrates

There is a difference between justice which is about "fairness" and the truth. The purpose of courts is to achieve justice which give them legitimacy and authority. The court found that his agreement with a prosecutor required him --in effect-- to testify against himself which is unfair.

We all tend to use terms like justice, like fair, like truth, like legitimacy, like authority all important WORDS. There are books, several books debating what they mean.

Over the years. Cosby, he might have been hung from a tree. Put in a cage on London bridge till he starved to death and his body rotten away. On a rack, the wheel you would confess to anything. Our legal system? Justice huh? Been there.

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by davem4616

sad that lawyers continue to rule the world that we live in

I'm amazed at all the paperwork I need to sign every time I go to a doctor's office...because his lawyer is trying to protect him from some other guy's lawyer

if there's only one lawyer in town he barely makes a living...two lawyers in a town and they both become multi millionaires

IMHO, we should shut down all the law schools and transform them into medical schools, nursing schools, and trade schools...we have more than enough lawyers...let's educate some people in careers that actually add value

Far too many lawyers.....
Use,
Abuse
Or hide behind
The law.

Which ever benefits most......and sometimes even for the client!

[Reese8899]

I am glad he is free now. I am sure some of those women were paid well by him. Also he has good lawyers. Let’s adhere the law of the land.........his freedom........💥✨🌟🌙⭐️💫

[manaboutown]

Watch your drinks!

[jimkerr]

Money will get you out of anything in most cases. He's definitely guilty and deserves to be in prison t he rest of his life. It's a shame that someone who abused so many women is now able to live his life as if he didn't do anything wrong.

[airstreamingypsy]

He may be free, but the world knows he's is a lowlife woman drugging serial rapist. He's not free because he's innocent, he's still as guilty as he was the day he was convicted.

[Pat2015]

Originally Posted by jimkerr

Money will get you out of anything in most cases. He's definitely guilty and deserves to be in prison t he rest of his life. It's a shame that someone who abused so many women is now able to live his life as if he didn't do anything wrong.

This isn’t about money or guilt/innocence. It’s about prosecutorial misconduct. The ruling is correct, and I wouldn’t be surprised if he didn’t sue the city.

[Becca9800]

Originally Posted by George Page

Do the math……60 to 1
Do you always bet long-shots?

Also, in his civil case, …….
HE CONFESSED!

He "confessed" to absolutely nothing. He continues to maintain his innocence as of yesterday. See Post #6.

[Stu from NYC]

Wonder why this did not come out before the trial?

He seems to be guilty but wonder how many of these suits are phony?

[Becca9800]

Originally Posted by Eg_cruz

So I guess you can just be grateful that your mom, you, your daughter or your granddaughter never came across Bill. I think sometimes people forget we are talking about someone’s loved ones……

So what exactly do you object to in my previous response? I'm confused by your need to make this personal.

[Rosebud1949]

This is why Women DO NOT REPORT THESE CRIMES.... no one EVER believes them how ever much evidence there is..... Are 50 + women really wrong about this predator.. I do not think so. Shame on the "old boy network".. Blame the victim.

[lawgolfer]

The OP, and most replies, miss the point of the court's decision and the reversal of Cosby's conviction.

The decision had nothing to do with Cosby's guilt or innocence. It had to do with prosecutorial misconduct. The District Attorney then in office, made a promise to Cosby that his testimony would not be used against him if he testified at a deposition in a civil case and did not invoke his 5th Amendment privilege. Years later, a new District Attorney breached the promise of his predecessor and prosecuted Cosby using his deposition testimony to convict him.

There are so many things wrong with the conduct of the new District Attorney that I wonder if he ever studied legal ethics in law school and marvel that he has not faced disciplinary action by the Bar. Our legal system, for all its faults, cannot exist when public officials break promises, whether they or their predecessor made the promise. This extends to the lowest level of prosecutorial authority. For example, if the lowest ranking Deputy in the office made such a promise to a suspect, the highest ranking Deputy could not say the promise should not have been made and then breach the promise, once the suspect has testified. The political and social winds may change, but a prosecutor's word must not. Today, no self-respecting prosecutor would even consider making such a promise to a suspect in a sexual assault case. However, one was made to Cosby, and was, subsequently, broken.

This extends throughout the criminal justice system and is not confined to the prosecutors. For example, a police officer cannot tell a suspect that if he confesses he will not be prosecuted, and, later, have that promise breached. For those of you who watch TV and read police procedural novels, do not be confused by lies the police are allowed to make--i.e."we found your fingerprints on the body"; "your buddy has set you up to take the rap" etc, which induce the suspect to then confess.

I proudly served as both an Assistant United States Attorney and as a Deputy District Attorney and spent 40 years before the bar. When this story first broke four years ago, I was shocked to hear that such a promise was made to Cosby by the District Attorney and more shocked to hear the current District Attorney was breaking his predecessor's promise. Anyone with even a smattering of experience in the criminal justice system, whether as an attorney, judge, or police officer, knew the prosecution was on shaky ground.