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Don Ferguson 06-06-2020 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by kenoc7 (Post 1778213)
"Candace Amber Owens Farmer is an American conservative commentator and political activist. She is known for her pro-Trump activism that began around 2016 after being initially very critical of Trump and the Republican Party, and her criticism of Black Lives Matter and of the Democratic Party." Wikipedia

This says it all.

AND herewith lies the problem in America, FOR BOTH SIDES! It is obviously repugnant to you that a person could be known as "...an American conservative commentator and political activist." Therefore: you automatically tune out and go on record are against ANYTHING they say. That's sad, because I would challenge you tell me what was untrue in her 18 minute video.

Thankfully, I haven't fallen that far into the abyss! I am admittedly conservative and Republican. BUT, I actually listen to opposing positions and sometimes even agree with them.

ffresh 06-06-2020 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1778527)
Is it just me, or do others also see the flaming hypocrisy of embracing in whole what is said by someone of a different ethnicity, that just happens to agree with them, but dismiss and denigrate with vitriol...the exact opposite?


Re: "You're just an athlete/actor/performer/TV celebrity(oops, better not use that one :D)/Etc....therefore your opinion doesn't count." :oops:

Particularly noteworthy, when it's coming from a mouthpiece/sock-puppet whose lone 'claim to fame'...is to foment lies/anger/hatred.

Which is then perfectly summed up, and breathlessly and wholeheartedly embraced, by the statement of..."just shut up and dribble." :ohdear:

And who would even try to deny, the coded racism...in such a statement? :rolleyes:



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Not trying to be insulting but … could you please write more legibly; I have no idea what you're trying to say!

Fred

ffresh 06-06-2020 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Antique lady (Post 1778569)
One delusional young lady.

Or, is it just the opposite? Double entendre comes to mind. :icon_wink:

Fred

Don Ferguson 06-06-2020 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by HelenLCSW (Post 1778338)
She missed the point when she talked about black culture demanding justice for criminals. That may be true in some instances, but the whole point here is that George Floyd was not a criminal and that not only are black people more likely to be falsely suspected, but that black people, innocent or guilty, are inhumanely treated.

You make two statements, both addressed and disproved by the video. (1) You claim George Floyd was not a criminal. If 5 proven prison sentences, the last being armed home invasion against a pregnant woman, don't prove you ARE a criminal, what does. (2) She addressed, and you can easily research yourself, to disprove that blacks are more likely to be falsely suspected and inhumanely treated.

Candace Owens vehemently clarifies that George Floyd was wrongfully killed by Derek Chauvin, and that Chauvin should be convicted for same. Her point was simply stated that she was tired of her race deifying the "bottom feeders" of her race as martyrs and heros.

Don Ferguson 06-06-2020 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BillArmyRet (Post 1778493)
I would advise that it would be best to find out who this woman is before you accept and spread her opinion. In addition to being black 😊 I find her an opportunist and unreliable. They really do come in all colors.

You embarrass me Bill because I too am retired Army! You offer nothing but a two personal insults about the author. How about pointing out even one falsehood contained in the 18 minutes of video?

Dilligas 06-06-2020 12:31 PM

Listen to her words...she is intellligent and thought provoking
 
If you listen to her words and forget your mass media supplied opinions of the entire situation you will realize she is intellligent and thought provoking. Regardless of your political stance, she points out the death was wrong and should be punished, however, the martyar creation of people dying at the hands of police is not what the black community should be advancing. All Lives Matter.....black, white, yellow, or brown. Wrongful death should not be tolerated and must be punished to the fullest extent. At the same time, all deaths should be held to the same standard, whether Minneapolis, Chicago, Dallas, St. Louis, or rural America.

Scorpyo 06-06-2020 12:44 PM

You're Right!
 
She's an Opportunist and a Hater! She's Courageous and Brilliant! You're both right (or left) depending on your ideological views. For those of you who have an open mind and want to hear from a true scholarly black conservative set your DVR to Fox News tomorrow (Sunday) evening at 11 PM. I would say watch it but it is at 11 PM and I am corresponding with TV residents so I know better. One of the speakers will be Shelby Steele. He's a Senior Fellow at Standford University. That's kind of an oxymoron, a Conservative at a California university. Sorry got sidetracked. Watch it and I think you'll be both educated and amazed. I've heard him speak before and that was my reaction.

Taltarzac725 06-06-2020 01:08 PM

Shelby Steele - Wikipedia

Providing a link.

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Originally Posted by Scorpyo (Post 1778598)
She's an Opportunist and a Hater! She's Courageous and Brilliant! You're both right (or left) depending on your ideological views. For those of you who have an open mind and want to hear from a true scholarly black conservative set your DVR to Fox News tomorrow (Sunday) evening at 11 PM. I would say watch it but it is at 11 PM and I am corresponding with TV residents so I know better. One of the speakers will be Shelby Steele. He's a Senior Fellow at Standford University. That's kind of an oxymoron, a Conservative at a California university. Sorry got sidetracked. Watch it and I think you'll be both educated and amazed. I've heard him speak before and that was my reaction.


Pamelah 06-06-2020 01:08 PM

Drunk? So what??? Big guy? Yes. Strong guy? Yes. 4 rotten cops couldn’t subdue him ( if that be the case) so one kneeled on his neck and killed him. People are wrongly focusing on the man. I’m focusing on the intentional murder of a black man.

Ray Greene 06-06-2020 01:14 PM

Murder is still wrong in all caees
 
No matter what George Floyd’s condition was, killing him was not the answer

Taltarzac725 06-06-2020 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray Greene (Post 1778611)
No matter what George Floyd’s condition was, killing him was not the answer

And it sounds like he was trying to pass a counterfeit 20 dollar bill and if in a drugged state would not have had the intention to commit a crime. He probably did not know it was a phony bill. But I do not have the facts.

The MN Attorney General was very careful as a law student at the U of MN. He was class of 1990. I am Class of 1989. I did not have any classes with him that I recall but my girlfriend while in law school was Class of 1990 and would have had classes with him. She did mention him quite often though as he was one of the few African-American students at the U of MN Law School while I was there.

Keith Ellison would go by the facts. He is the AG for Minnesota right now.

baramu 06-06-2020 01:23 PM

What a horrible thing to say. The druggie that he was? The man was casually murdered and you come out with that comment? Obnoxious.

jimjamuser 06-06-2020 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1778031)
She's assuming he was high because he had the presence of methamphetamines and fentanyl in his bloodstream. Either that or she understands full well that the amount in his bloodstream indicates that he wasn't high, and she's lying on purpose to prove a point that she isn't able to make without lying.

Not surprising for her, she does this often.

Good to point out that she may also have history. Maybe a perspective. But, Fentanyl has a reputation for making people crazy and violent. How much is just a little?

GoFarm 06-06-2020 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1778031)
She's assuming he was high because he had the presence of methamphetamines and fentanyl in his bloodstream. Either that or she understands full well that the amount in his bloodstream indicates that he wasn't high, and she's lying on purpose to prove a point that she isn't able to make without lying.

Not surprising for her, she does this often.

I read that the person that called 911 said Floyd was acting high and not in control of himself.

jimjamuser 06-06-2020 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1778123)
Look at the video where the police walked Floyd away from the wall.. While walking he staggered like the stoned druggie he was.

Besides being provocative, very harsh.


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