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coffeebean 04-02-2021 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Pachine58 (Post 1925306)
Did you read the side of the box the masks came in? Masks do not stop the virus. And vaccine, they have no idea how long they last or how effective they are on people. It’s all a crap shoot.

Masks do not stop the virus BUT masks do block droplets and aerosols that carry the virus. The virus is minuscule vs the size of droplets and aerosols. One average size droplet carries thousands of virus particles.

coffeebean 04-02-2021 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Aloha1 (Post 1925380)
Your proof?? Only verified medical sites please.

This is just one. There are PLENTY more.....

Former Stanford colleagues warn Dr. Scott Atlas fosters '''falsehoods and misrepresentations of science''' - ABC News

This QUACK advocates natural herd immunity for our population. Need I say more??????

OrangeBlossomBaby 04-02-2021 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by donassaid (Post 1925375)
Because the vaccines and mask wearing are FAKE SCIENCE. Now we are being told that the vaccine won't protect against "variants", may only last 6 months, will not keep you from getting the virus, etc. How gullible can you be to believe anything put out by the CDC and Fauci who have been wrong about everything? All for a virus with a 99% survival rate.

I'm going to take a guess that you know thousands of people. You might not be friends with them all. Former employers, former schoolmates, old teachers, old neighbors, current neighbors, the check-out clerk at the supermarket, the bartender who makes your drink at the restaurant you frequent, etc. etc. Current friends, your immediate family, all your cousins, nieces/nephews, aunts, uncles, siblings, their spouses, your spouse's family, your kids, THEIR spouses, THEIR kids, etc. etc.

So I'm going to also guess that at least 100 of these people have contracted COVID-19, some time between January 2020 and today.

Do you know what that means?




It means at least one of those people you know is dead.


But that's okay since that dead person is only the 1%, right?

terrild53 04-02-2021 08:47 PM

Wearing masks & other suggested Covid prevention measures are still suggested even if vaccinated because there are variants of the virus infecting people and it is possible to get infected with one of the variants. That’s the long story short.

Pairadocs 04-02-2021 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1925402)
An entire 3rd grade class at The Villages Charter School is under QUARANTINE. They are 10-year-olds.

Don't doubt it at all, but just curious, how did you find out, was it in the Daily Sun ? Curious because our only newspaper "seems to me ?"" does one lousy job of keeping us informed for the sake of safety. Just my opinion. Sad when one can't depend on our own local (looking after the best interests of its citizens as it should) newspaper can't be counted on !

coffeebean 04-02-2021 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1925405)
Well, do you know if you are in the 90% group or the 10% group? That is the question! Want to risk it?

It doesn't panic me if I am in the 10% group because I know I will not have moderate or severe symptoms or be hospitalized and die from Covid. That is the protection I believe I have and that has made me feel safe from dying of Covid.

tuccillo 04-02-2021 08:53 PM

The differences are small. Certainly not enough to worry about. The probability differences between being vaccinated and not being vaccinated is much greater than the differences in vaccines, either with one or two doses of Pfizer or Moderna compared with J&J.

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1925437)
The Moderna and Pfizer vaccines have a higher efficacy (80%) after their first shot than the "one and done" J&J vaccine. You can consider the mRNA vaccines as "one and done" if you only get one shot and still have a better efficacy than J&J.


coffeebean 04-02-2021 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tuccillo (Post 1925452)
The differences are small. Certainly not enough to worry about.

I think you may have missed my point.

OrangeBlossomBaby 04-02-2021 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Pairadocs (Post 1925449)
Don't doubt it at all, but just curious, how did you find out, was it in the Daily Sun ? Curious because our only newspaper "seems to me ?"" does one lousy job of keeping us informed for the sake of safety. Just my opinion. Sad when one can't depend on our own local (looking after the best interests of its citizens as it should) newspaper can't be counted on !

Their newspaper doesn't exist to look out for the best interests of its citizens. Their newspaper exists as a vehicle to provide advertising for new homes to potential buyers and to promote the Villages. That's why the spin on the "impact fee TAX ON BUSINESSES" that isn't a tax on businesses at all. It's propaganda. If it's an "article" you can be 100% confident it's being spun to promote the Villages, even if it's loaded with half-truths, exaggerations, misdirection, deflection, and out and out lies. If it's a fluff piece, it's probably true, and missing any and all possible "downsides" to the topic, whatever it is.

The Daily Sun takes a very myopic view of the world. It reflects the "bubble" in which we all choose to live.

tuccillo 04-02-2021 09:08 PM

OK, fine, tell me what your point is.

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1925458)
I think you may have missed my point.


Tblue 04-02-2021 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1925440)
Masks do not stop the virus BUT masks do block droplets and aerosols that carry the virus. The virus is minuscule vs the size of droplets and aerosols. One average size droplet carries thousands of virus particles.

Any idea what percent of the virus is attached to the moisture droplets? Any idea what percent of moisture droplets escape around a mask? I wore a mask in the operating room for around 38 years and had to tape the mask to the bridge of my nose to prevent my glasses from fogging. The fogging due to my breath. Not to mention moisture droplets that escape around the sides or bottom of the mask. OK trapping some of the virus in the mask is a very good thing, no argument there,
but what happens when you are done with the mask, most just place it in their purse, pocket or console of the car to be re-used over and over. Sorry I don’t have much faith in non N-95 masks that are properly fitted. Re-used masks could spread the virus and who uses a new properly fitted mask every time?

OrangeBlossomBaby 04-02-2021 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pairadocs (Post 1925449)
Don't doubt it at all, but just curious, how did you find out, was it in the Daily Sun ? Curious because our only newspaper "seems to me ?"" does one lousy job of keeping us informed for the sake of safety. Just my opinion. Sad when one can't depend on our own local (looking after the best interests of its citizens as it should) newspaper can't be counted on !

I can tell you for sure it's not on the Villages Charter Schools website. In fact, the ONLY reference to COVID-19 that I could find, was WAYYYYYYYY at the bottom of the "news" section of the site, all the way at the end, sandwiched within a list of links to random documents. It was just two PDF files from the state department of education, the most recent being a waiver of strict controls over re-opening the schools.

So much for the Villages caring about...

anyone at all.

If they really cared there would be a banner at the top of every single Charter School webpage, that contained a hyperlink to "current COVID policy" of the schools and a phone number to call in case you think your child might be infected, and any current or recent quarantines.

mlmarr1 04-03-2021 05:22 AM

Control....all about control
Not in my watch..

mrf6969 04-03-2021 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1924688)
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nope - the question is - if one is fully vaccinated (as we are) and two weeks after SCIENCE shows what SHE said...

Why are WE (such as I believe that almost 50% of TVrs vaccinated now) told to wear masks, avoid travel, 6' distance and all the other stuff? Oh - perhaps to show "our patriotism" as someone says all the time...


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It is because they still want to control us....The goal posts will just keep on a moving....

Tmarkwald 04-03-2021 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Happinow (Post 1925353)
Spot on...the lab animals died from this experimental vaccine. It’s just that...an experiment and we are the labs rats this time around....at least many are. Those who have done their homework know not to get it.

And you are responding to someone else quoting misinformation?

That kind of an attitude results in fatalities. Please cease and desist with the fake news.

And those that have done their homework - over 56million in the US so far, are doing just fine without those conspiracy theory comments..

And, please quote sources if you make wild and outlandish claims ...


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