Yes, I learned this as well. But what it fails to include is that the "scientists" are not flawless. They make mistakes, can have an agenda, can be biased (even if not conscious of it) and so on. Scientists are humans too and there is a lot of pressure politically on them today that there wasn't back then. Also a lot of pressure within the field itself.

Add to this the difficulty in doing a study. There are multiple factors that need to be controlled in order for the study to be credible. And as I mentioned above the individuals must be unbiased. Meaning they have to have an excellent sense of self awareness cause it it very easy for anyone to bring bias into a study. There are other factors to consider as well such as the length of the study, the number of subjects studied, cross section of the subjects being studied, etc, etc. It's really quite surprising how many people quote "studies" as being factual without ever looking into how the study was done and the many factors that may have skewed the study. Even what the CDC puts out needs to taken with a grain of salt. Esp since it's a government entity that is vulnerable to persuasion by the powers to be.

Agree!
“CDC recently updated estimated infection fatality rates for COVID. Here are the updated survival rates by age group:

0-19: 99.997%
20-49: 99.98%
50-69: 99.5%
70+: 94.6%”

Yet here we go again with vaccinated people masking up, discussions of schools possibly not opening up, and I guess next up are the business closures and churches again??? This is nuts!

I can't tell what you are more mad at...the immigrants for coming in, or that they aren't vaccinated. Maybe they can't get the vaccine because they need to show proof of citizenship, which of course they don't have. The circle continues.
So maybe, instead of bit#$ing that they are here w/o a vaccine, yet happy they are doing the hot roofing jobs, the employer- and I use that term loosely- should provide the service of a vaccine. Of course there is just something not right about this suggestion, it would certainly solve the problem.

So it’s OK for illegal aliens to take jobs from AMERICAN minorities so you can get an illegal to do your roof on the cheap.

The border should be closed with no one allowed in at this time! 13% is the positive rate for illegals and they are being released into our country. How about living in a border town where they are released being covid positive and they are staying in local hotels as reported in the news this week? It doesn’t take a genius to see that there is something very wrong here and why is this being allowed when we are struggling to get COVID under control with our own citizens?

Last paragraph of article you quoted;

"Staver contended that Howard-Browne’s arrest prompted Gov. Ron DeSantis to exempt churches, synagogue and other houses of worship in a statewide stay-at-home order released on April 1."

Do either of you happen to have a link to where you found these numbers?

They don't appear to match the numbers from this CDC page with current counts or this CDC page with estimates for undercounts. Perhaps there is a third CDC page?

(Note: the numbers are close to those on the estimates page - let's hope the estimates are correct?)

Employees wearing mandated N95 masks to protect themselves and their patients is an excellent option to mandated vaccines.

I feel terrible for the good people of Australia under the gun of military now. The authoritism does not match

Ummmmm…No.
 

The vaccine, like the Flu vaccine, may not stop you from becoming infected. It’s a mitigation to prevent serious illness or death. The Massachusetts cluster demonstrates just that. 274 vaccinated people infected at a beach party & only 4 were hospitalized & zero deaths!

I’m not a mask wearer & I’m damn sure NOT afraid!😎

Private companies are more nimble and flexible than the Federal Government. So, they can do the RIGHT thing and lead the way. "You can fool some of the people (like on a forum) ALL of the time". But, "you can't fool ALL of the people ALL of the time". Do the right thing, listen to the CDC, and get your shot. Lives are depending on you!

It is simple logic.......a mask can help to prevent a small % of CV infections. But, vaccines prevent close to 100% of hospitalizations and deaths. Most Judges and even regular people and forum-dwellers will eventually figure that one out.

We’ll see what happens as it plays out in the courts.

You're correct about the hospitalizations and death. That's always been the endgame, IMO, and I recall the CDC and medical professionals saying as much even early on. They never said you can't get COVID if vaccinated but that the impact would be less. Also, they knew you could still carry the virus and shed it which is why they want as many people as possible to be vaccinated.

Even traditional vaccines for the seasonal flu and other viruses are not 100 percent effective. People still get the flu after they've had the flu shot! Every doctor will tell you that. But they also will say if you get it you will have a milder form and less likely to end up in the hospital or worse.

New information is always interesting to me, BUT I would also appreciate it if they would give the positive along with the negative.
For instance, a friend of mine was about hysterical about the spike in Covid cases this month. I found it interesting, BUT since he seemed to be hyperventilating I decided to look up a figure that everyone should be able to appreciate. Turns out that the death rate in his state for the whole month was less than ONE DAY in the past Jan.
Maybe the Delta virus is less deadly.
Maybe the vaccination is making the virus less deadly.
Who knows? Instead of crying about how dark it is in the tunnel, how about thinking about that light that we can see at the end of the tunnel and keep on trucking towards it?