Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1830376)

It’s just not Chicago. It’s KCMO, NYC area, St. Louis, Orlando, Jacksonville, Atlanta, Ect... about every major cities. The above has been bad for 50 plus years. Basically the agenda is to stop policing so illegal activities won’t be pursued. Basically 3rd world law and disorder like Mexico.

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna (Post 1830532)

There’s coverage in Chicago, but the wire services and TV have tired of picking up the reports.

As a Chicago area native, it’s commonly known that the well-armed drug-financed gangs control the south and west sides of the city. The fatalities and injuries are gang wars or innocent bystanders. The gangs have well-defined borders and “defend” them aggressively. They sustain their ranks with aggressive “recruiting” of new members. Young men have a choice when drafted into the gangs — accept or be beaten or killed. The situation on the south and west sides of the city is very much like what the situation was/is in Mexico.

There isn’t any way that the City can afford the number of police which would be necessary to quash the gangs. The solution would have to be the same as what was done in Mexico. They deployed virtually their entire armed forces, marines and army, throughout the country to go to war with the drug lords.

Whose decision is it to deploy such forces? Certainly not the mayor of Chicago. The mayor can request federal involvement, but as we know that would require a federal Executive Branch decision, unlikely because of the disdain between the political parties.

What’s the solution? It may be more reportage of the weekly statistics, but certainly it’ll take a lot more than that. This is a situation that local politics simply can’t afford to fix. Until the street gangs start invading, looting and killing “other” parts of the City, not much will be done.

Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 1830626)

Chicago had 492 murders in 2019. In 1974 the city had 970. It's still deplorable but remember it being a lot worse.

Originally Posted by Eg_cruz@comcast.net (Post 1830510)

I really get upset at comments like this. Chicago has had this problem for over 20 years why do you want to blame Trump why not Obama who was their senator from 1997-2004 and was President For 8 yrs why is he not the problem. He’s from there and yet he does nothing to help fix the problem. But haters like you what to twist your little minds into some how it’s the sitting president fault not the guy who was in office for 15 years who’s from Chicago .....put your hate down and open your mind so you can see what is happening.

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna (Post 1830532)

There’s coverage in Chicago, but the wire services and TV have tired of picking up the reports.

As a Chicago area native, it’s commonly known that the well-armed drug-financed gangs control the south and west sides of the city. The fatalities and injuries are gang wars or innocent bystanders. The gangs have well-defined borders and “defend” them aggressively. They sustain their ranks with aggressive “recruiting” of new members. Young men have a choice when drafted into the gangs — accept or be beaten or killed. The situation on the south and west sides of the city is very much like what the situation was/is in Mexico.

There isn’t any way that the City can afford the number of police which would be necessary to quash the gangs. The solution would have to be the same as what was done in Mexico. They deployed virtually their entire armed forces, marines and army, throughout the country to go to war with the drug lords.

Whose decision is it to deploy such forces? Certainly not the mayor of Chicago. The mayor can request federal involvement, but as we know that would require a federal Executive Branch decision, unlikely because of the disdain between the political parties.

What’s the solution? It may be more reportage of the weekly statistics, but certainly it’ll take a lot more than that. This is a situation that local politics simply can’t afford to fix. Until the street gangs start invading, looting and killing “other” parts of the City, not much will be done.

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna (Post 1830532)

There’s coverage in Chicago, but the wire services and TV have tired of picking up the reports.

As a Chicago area native, it’s commonly known that the well-armed drug-financed gangs control the south and west sides of the city. The fatalities and injuries are gang wars or innocent bystanders. The gangs have well-defined borders and “defend” them aggressively. They sustain their ranks with aggressive “recruiting” of new members. Young men have a choice when drafted into the gangs — accept or be beaten or killed. The situation on the south and west sides of the city is very much like what the situation was/is in Mexico.

There isn’t any way that the City can afford the number of police which would be necessary to quash the gangs. The solution would have to be the same as what was done in Mexico. They deployed virtually their entire armed forces, marines and army, throughout the country to go to war with the drug lords.

Whose decision is it to deploy such forces? Certainly not the mayor of Chicago. The mayor can request federal involvement, but as we know that would require a federal Executive Branch decision, unlikely because of the disdain between the political parties.

What’s the solution? It may be more reportage of the weekly statistics, but certainly it’ll take a lot more than that. This is a situation that local politics simply can’t afford to fix. Until the street gangs start invading, looting and killing “other” parts of the City, not much will be done.

Originally Posted by John41 (Post 1830737)

Defund the police isn’t the answer. And Rudy Giuliani cleaned up New York. Feds offered to help with Chicago violence.