[Ldogg21]

Only white cops shooting black criminals makes the news these days

[nancymiller217@yahoo.com]

Remember the Elvis Presley song “In the Ghetto”.

50 years, nothing has changed.

[PugMom]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Sad when a thug gets shot and the media is up in arms but a cute little girl minding her own business is murdered the media could care less.

perfect summary

[Villages Kahuna]

There’s coverage in Chicago, but the wire services and TV have tired of picking up the reports.

As a Chicago area native, it’s commonly known that the well-armed drug-financed gangs control the south and west sides of the city. The fatalities and injuries are gang wars or innocent bystanders. The gangs have well-defined borders and “defend” them aggressively. They sustain their ranks with aggressive “recruiting” of new members. Young men have a choice when drafted into the gangs — accept or be beaten or killed. The situation on the south and west sides of the city is very much like what the situation was/is in Mexico.

There isn’t any way that the City can afford the number of police which would be necessary to quash the gangs. The solution would have to be the same as what was done in Mexico. They deployed virtually their entire armed forces, marines and army, throughout the country to go to war with the drug lords.

Whose decision is it to deploy such forces? Certainly not the mayor of Chicago. The mayor can request federal involvement, but as we know that would require a federal Executive Branch decision, unlikely because of the disdain between the political parties.

What’s the solution? It may be more reportage of the weekly statistics, but certainly it’ll take a lot more than that. This is a situation that local politics simply can’t afford to fix. Until the street gangs start invading, looting and killing “other” parts of the City, not much will be done.

[Girlcopper]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

I agree. But, I am amazed that so many people cannot think for themselves. The media is able to control millions of people's thinking by how and what they choose to report. The schools need to encourage more independent and creative thinking.

How about the parents teach better thinking instead of shoving their child rearing off on someone else

[Pamelah]

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna

There’s coverage in Chicago, but the wire services and TV have tired of picking up the reports.

As a Chicago area native, it’s commonly known that the well-armed drug-financed gangs control the south and west sides of the city. The fatalities and injuries are gang wars or innocent bystanders. The gangs have well-defined borders and “defend” them aggressively. They sustain their ranks with aggressive “recruiting” of new members. Young men have a choice when drafted into the gangs — accept or be beaten or killed. The situation on the south and west sides of the city is very much like what the situation was/is in Mexico.

There isn’t any way that the City can afford the number of police which would be necessary to quash the gangs. The solution would have to be the same as what was done in Mexico. They deployed virtually their entire armed forces, marines and army, throughout the country to go to war with the drug lords.

Whose decision is it to deploy such forces? Certainly not the mayor of Chicago. The mayor can request federal involvement, but as we know that would require a federal Executive Branch decision, unlikely because of the disdain between the political parties.

What’s the solution? It may be more reportage of the weekly statistics, but certainly it’ll take a lot more than that. This is a situation that local politics simply can’t afford to fix. Until the street gangs start invading, looting and killing “other” parts of the City, not much will be done.

Thank you. For once a well thought out response without finger pointing. Maybe not for others here with obvious political agendas, but for me something to think about and learn from. Your time to respond is appreciated by me at least.

[DanBrew]

Please tell me that you arent a Cub fan. Maybe that is the reason for all the angst in Chitown.

[MandoMan]

Originally Posted by DeanFL

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Every day - every weekend. Shootings, carnage, killings. Chicago and other cities in USA.

56 shot, 8 fatally over Labor Day weekend in Chicago

Where is the OUTRAGE? Very little media coverage or outcries for action. Civic Leaders, shhhh. Police, paralyzed. Gangs, out of control. Minority Leaders, where?

This has been the standard for so many years, but lately exploded. Imagine living in these inner city 'hoods' with your family - and nothing is done to address the problems? It IS an OUTRAGE. Had to vent...

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An 8-year-old girl killed in a drive-by shooting was one of 53 people shot in Chicago over holiday weekend
By Tina Burnside and Hollie Silverman, CNN Updated 5:46 AM ET, Tue September 8, 2020

(CNN)An 8-year-old girl was among at least 53 people shot during a violent holiday weekend in Chicago, according to police officials.

Eight people died between Friday and Monday in shooting homicides, the Chicago Police Incident Notification website shows.
The girl was killed Monday evening after gunshots were fired into an SUV she was traveling in, Chicago Police Chief of Operations Brian McDermott said during a press conference Monday night.
"I am saddened and angered that another child has lost their life to gun violence in the city of Chicago," McDermott said.

An unknown vehicle pulled up beside her at a stop light and shot into the car as the light turned green, he explained.
The girl suffered a gunshot wound to the back, according to the incident notification.
Three other people were in the car with her, at least two of whom were shot, according to the incident notification.
Following the shooting, the victims' vehicle crashed into a tree. A woman believed to be the child's mother suffered injuries from the crash, according to McDermott.
Police believe the victims' car was intentionally targeted and police are searching for the gunman, he said.
Chicago Police Supt. David Brown is expected to address violence over the Labor Day holiday weekend on Tuesday morning.

An 8-year-old girl killed in a drive-by shooting was one of 53 people shot in Chicago over holiday weekend - CNN
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I could be wrong on this, but I think that the reason we don’t see the outrage over civilians shooting civilians and civilians killing civilians that we see over the rare (but tragic) instances of police shooting unarmed civilians is that there is a hidden agenda beneath the protests and riots.

A huge percentage of young men in densely populated poor African-American communities get arrested for crimes and end up in prison, whether for a short time or a long time. This makes it much harder for these young men to succeed in the future, and it often destroys relationships, puts immense stress on women and children, and eats up what little money families have in bail, lawyer fees, restitution, and court costs.

I think the hidden agenda is finding a way to 1) pressure the police to stop searching young men and thus not catching them carrying drugs or weapons; 2) decriminalize as much drug use and sales as possible so the young men don’t get arrested and don’t go to jail; 3) make marijuana use completely legal, so fewer young men go to jail for having or selling it; 4) drastically change sentencing for crimes such as assault and larceny so fewer young men go to jail; 5) have social workers who can’t make arrests deal with family disputes, as these often lead to arrests. In short, the aim is for society to accept that criminality is part of the lives of these young men, but if we just don’t arrest them and convict them, they won’t really be criminals, even though they don’t change their lifestyles.

Thus, if we legalize marijuana, use will not decrease, and illegal selling probably won’t decrease, but fewer people will go to jail. If graffiti is legal, there will be even more of it, but people won’t be in jail for it. If cops don’t search people, they won’t catch people carrying illegal firearms. There will be even more guns carried, but fewer of those carrying will go to prison.

I think this is all insane, and probably you do, too, but I do think that’s why we don’t see more outrage.

In the spirit of Jonathan Swift’s famous satire “A Modest Proposal,” I offer this. Perhaps gang members should be allowed to register as such with the police. In exchange, they would be allowed to kill other registered gang members with impunity, but only them. Kill another registered gang member and you don’t even get arrested. Kill anyone else and pay the price. Society would benefit.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna

There’s coverage in Chicago, but the wire services and TV have tired of picking up the reports.

As a Chicago area native, it’s commonly known that the well-armed drug-financed gangs control the south and west sides of the city. The fatalities and injuries are gang wars or innocent bystanders. The gangs have well-defined borders and “defend” them aggressively. They sustain their ranks with aggressive “recruiting” of new members. Young men have a choice when drafted into the gangs — accept or be beaten or killed. The situation on the south and west sides of the city is very much like what the situation was/is in Mexico.

There isn’t any way that the City can afford the number of police which would be necessary to quash the gangs. The solution would have to be the same as what was done in Mexico. They deployed virtually their entire armed forces, marines and army, throughout the country to go to war with the drug lords.

Whose decision is it to deploy such forces? Certainly not the mayor of Chicago. The mayor can request federal involvement, but as we know that would require a federal Executive Branch decision, unlikely because of the disdain between the political parties.

What’s the solution? It may be more reportage of the weekly statistics, but certainly it’ll take a lot more than that. This is a situation that local politics simply can’t afford to fix. Until the street gangs start invading, looting and killing “other” parts of the City, not much will be done.

Very interesting thanks for sharing. Would think that the natural progression of the street gangs is to expand and at some point citizens will be outraged enough to want to take control back.

[Lottoguy]

Actually this average for Chicago. Which is NOT even in the TOP TEN for murders in big cities.

[Lottoguy]

Actually this average for Chicago. Which is NOT even in the TOP TEN for murders in big cities. https://rapidcityjournal.com/news/na...9a43e3d.html#7

[Lottoguy]

2019 stats are right here. Chicago is NOT in the top ten. The 10 Most Dangerous Cities in America - The Getaway

[Lottoguy]

Chicago does NOT have the highest murder rate in the USA according to 2019 stats. St. Louis, Cleveland and Miami are much higher.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Lottoguy

Chicago does NOT have the highest murder rate in the USA according to 2019 stats. St. Louis, Cleveland and Miami are much higher.

But 2020 hasn’t been tallied up yet?

[Chi-Town]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

But 2020 hasn’t been tallied up yet?

Hard to tally up 2020 until it's over. Long hot summer is just about over though.