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Normal 04-19-2024 08:24 AM

CNN should have reported just News and it would have been fine. It has turned into a very agenda driven outlet with heavy bias. It was bound to die off. What was its purpose besides propaganda?

Road-Runner 04-19-2024 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by NoMo50 (Post 2322879)
Who was married to...well, if you know, you know.

Oh, oh, oh, I know!! What is Hanoi Jane?

Marine1974 04-19-2024 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by conman5652@aol.com (Post 2322891)
Bull ****. Was then and still now. U can’t show one fake vote that was proven. So give it a break. Oh ya. Next time u get Covid follow his suggested (on live new cast) and inject ur self with beach.

You made it easy , state by state criminal convictions for voter fraud ;
Alabama
YEAR
2023
NAME
David Cole
CASE TYPE
Criminal Conviction
FRAUD TYPE
False Registrations
Might want to correct your comment when you research voter fraud convictions United States . Eye opener.

Decadeofdave 04-19-2024 08:34 AM

What CNN viewers don't realize is the facts that they hold back when telling a story. Exculpatory news.

Wondering 04-19-2024 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Dusty_Star (Post 2322638)
CNN boss Mark Thompson says network faces 'existential crisis,' plans eventual switch away from cable TV.

"Thompson said that one possibility is to have CNN users register so that the network can then sell information about its audience to advertisers."

CNN boss Mark Thompson says network faces 'existential crisis'

First of all, if your source is The New York Post, your post is suspect. The issue of cable news networks switching to streaming services is old news - middle of 2023. Stop getting your information from an unreliable source. If only Alexander Hamilton could see what has happened to his treasured publication.

JMintzer 04-19-2024 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by conman5652@aol.com (Post 2322891)
Bull ****. Was then and still now. U can’t show one fake vote that was proven. So give it a break. Oh ya. Next time u get Covid follow his suggested (on live new cast) and inject ur self with beach.

I bet you heard he said that on CNN...

Here's a pro tip, IT WAS NEVER SAID!

JMintzer 04-19-2024 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager (Post 2322934)
They are???? Please explain.

My post was clear, no?

ron32162 04-19-2024 08:40 AM

Fox is #1 rated and can afford a big law suit hit. #1 means they must be doing something right. I do believe cnn rated the lowest would have to close up shop if they were hit with any type of law suit like that. I do not watch either.

JMintzer 04-19-2024 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager (Post 2322944)
Not political....he was just saying what really happened. I heard him say it!

Look up Sarah Cooper!!!!:a20::a20::a20:

If you're talking about the "bleach" comment, no you didn't, because it NEVER HAPPENED...

GoRedSox! 04-19-2024 08:42 AM

The greatest fiction in the news media today is about the “mainstream media” and how liberal it is. That notion is a pure myth, but it plays like David vs. Goliath situation, and so it is perpetuated.

Fox News is as much a part of the mainstream media as any other. It’s been around for almost 30 years, and has led cable ratings for over 20 consecutive years. Their audience is roughly equal to, and in some years bigger than, CNN and MSNBC combined. Fox News is the cable news Goliath, not vice-versa. And while much smaller, Newmax and OAN are out there for those who are even farther to the right of Sean Hannity and Jesse Watters.

Add to that the dominance of online media (Fox News, Breitbart, Epoch Times, Daily Caller, Washington Examiner, and many others). The left does not approach this in online unique visitors.

The place where conservative media absolutely dominates is talk radio. Rush Limbaugh was the king while he was living, but talk radio is still dominated by the right. There are many right wing talk radio programs, but you would be hard pressed to find any on the left at all.

And then you have podcasts, again dominated by conservatives starting with Joe Rogan. The left has some, but they are not in the same league.

The one part of the media that is totally dominated by the left is the newspapers. But readership continues to plummet and hundreds of newspapers close each year.

I am not putting this post up to take sides. I recognize a right or left bias when I see or hear it and most of the media is not straight down the middle. But the notion that conservatives are the little guy fighting this gigantic left wing mainstream media is false. Conservative media is bigger in totality, make far higher profits, and they are certainly just as much a part of the “mainstream media” as all other media.

Some may not believe this, but ask yourself how DJT media’s new stock, even after the price decline, values his media organization at $4 billion even though they reported revenue of only $4 million last year and lost tens of millions of dollars.

JMintzer 04-19-2024 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by GoRedSox! (Post 2322986)
The greatest fiction in the news media today is about the “mainstream media” and how liberal it is. That notion is a pure myth, but it plays like David vs. Goliath situation, and so it is perpetuated.

Fox News is as much a part of the mainstream media as any other. It’s been around for almost 30 years, and has led cable ratings for over 20 consecutive years. Their audience is roughly equal to, and in some years bigger than, CNN and MSNBC combined. Fox News is the cable news Goliath, not vice-versa. And while much smaller, Newmax and OAN are out there for those who are even farther to the right of Sean Hannity and Jesse Watters.

Add to that the dominance of online media (Fox News, Breitbart, Epoch Times, Daily Caller, Washington Examiner, and many others). The left does not approach this in online unique visitors.

The place where conservative media absolutely dominates is talk radio. Rush Limbaugh was the king while he was living, but talk radio is still dominated by the right. There are many right wing talk radio programs, but you would be hard pressed to find any on the left at all.

And then you have podcasts, again dominated by conservatives starting with Joe Rogan. The left has some, but they are not in the same league.

The one part of the media that is totally dominated by the left is the newspapers. But readership continues to plummet and hundreds of newspapers close each year.

I am not putting this post up to take sides. I recognize a right or left bias when I see or hear it and most of the media is not straight down the middle. But the notion that conservatives are the little guy fighting this gigantic left wing mainstream media is false. Conservative media is bigger in totality, make far higher profits, and they are certainly just as much a part of the “mainstream media” as all other media.

Some may not believe this, but ask yourself how DJT media’s new stock, even after the price decline, values his media organization at $4 billion even though they reported revenue of only $4 million last year and lost tens of millions of dollars.

There's a reason for those ratings disparities...

For the longest time, only FOX leaned a certain way, while EVERYBODY ELSE leaned the other way. There was a plethora of choices.

Of course it made sense that Fox's ratings were much higher... It was the only game in town for many, many people...

Two Bills 04-19-2024 08:55 AM

Coronavirus: Outcry after Trump suggests injecting disinfectant as treatment - BBC News

Steve 04-19-2024 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Tennisnut (Post 2322666)
Personally I find the Certified News Network very enlightening as opposed to th the FAux News Network which had to pay a $897 million for its fake news regarding Dominion voting irregularities.

Don't you mean "Certifiable"?

Steve 04-19-2024 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2322816)
My dad has CNN running from the moment he wakes up til he goes to sleep, except to watch Jeopardy and Wheel of Fortune. I can't stand it, it's always [BREAKING] even though it's just opinions of hired "personalities" who discuss news from two days ago, or continue a tirade against this that or the other thing.

To me it's not much better than Newsmax, Breitbart, or MSNBC.

If I want to read about actual news I usually check with Reuters or Associated Press, and I check with CSPAN for live government streaming every so often. If I want to see something live that isn't something going on in the government, ABC and CBS usually have a stream going online.

I don't watch normal TV at all.

Unfortunately, Associated Press has gone woke. Notice how many stories written by AP in the local paper us "They" or "Their" in place of "Him" or "Her" or "His" or "Hers".

JMintzer 04-19-2024 09:02 AM

You do realize that that has been thoroughly debunked, haven't you?

Yes, all the "real" (cough) news outlets immediately jumped on that bandwagon. But they were all wrong.

The UV light comment was factually correct. It has been used in lung infections for some time.

And he NEVER said to inject bleach. Period, Full Stop.

OrangeBlossomBaby 04-19-2024 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2322985)
If you're talking about the "bleach" comment, no you didn't, because it NEVER HAPPENED...

April 23, 2020, live on CSPAN2, a press briefing. He used the word "disinfectant." But yes he did suggest that Deborah Birx would be looking into the possibility of injecting disinfectant into the body to "cleanse" the COVID.

It absolutely happened, and you can check the CSPAN2 archives for the press briefing in full.

OrangeBlossomBaby 04-19-2024 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve (Post 2323006)
Unfortunately, Associated Press has gone woke. Notice how many stories written by AP in the local paper us "They" or "Their" in place of "Him" or "Her" or "His" or "Hers".

Does it make you suddenly incapable of understanding what they're referring to? If not, then why does it matter? Are they causing you to lose your job, your home? Have you been kicked out of any restaurants? Been arrested? How has "they" harmed you? Maybe show us on the dolly so we can be clear.

OrangeBlossomBaby 04-19-2024 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by GoRedSox! (Post 2322986)
The greatest fiction in the news media today is about the “mainstream media” and how liberal it is. That notion is a pure myth, but it plays like David vs. Goliath situation, and so it is perpetuated.

Fox News is as much a part of the mainstream media as any other. It’s been around for almost 30 years, and has led cable ratings for over 20 consecutive years. Their audience is roughly equal to, and in some years bigger than, CNN and MSNBC combined. Fox News is the cable news Goliath, not vice-versa. And while much smaller, Newmax and OAN are out there for those who are even farther to the right of Sean Hannity and Jesse Watters.

Add to that the dominance of online media (Fox News, Breitbart, Epoch Times, Daily Caller, Washington Examiner, and many others). The left does not approach this in online unique visitors.

The place where conservative media absolutely dominates is talk radio. Rush Limbaugh was the king while he was living, but talk radio is still dominated by the right. There are many right wing talk radio programs, but you would be hard pressed to find any on the left at all.

And then you have podcasts, again dominated by conservatives starting with Joe Rogan. The left has some, but they are not in the same league.

The one part of the media that is totally dominated by the left is the newspapers. But readership continues to plummet and hundreds of newspapers close each year.

I am not putting this post up to take sides. I recognize a right or left bias when I see or hear it and most of the media is not straight down the middle. But the notion that conservatives are the little guy fighting this gigantic left wing mainstream media is false. Conservative media is bigger in totality, make far higher profits, and they are certainly just as much a part of the “mainstream media” as all other media.

Some may not believe this, but ask yourself how DJT media’s new stock, even after the price decline, values his media organization at $4 billion even though they reported revenue of only $4 million last year and lost tens of millions of dollars.

The tl;dr version of the above:

People who watch news "shows" believe what they are instructed to believe. The belief depends 100% on who is doing the instructing.

It's why I refuse to watch news "shows."

KAM+6 04-19-2024 09:15 AM

Yes, he said it!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2322980)
I bet you heard he said that on CNN...

Here's a pro tip, IT WAS NEVER SAID!

YES, He DID SAY IT!!!

mikemalloy 04-19-2024 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2323009)
April 23, 2020, live on CSPAN2, a press briefing. He used the word "disinfectant." But yes he did suggest that Deborah Birx would be looking into the possibility of injecting disinfectant into the body to "cleanse" the COVID.

It absolutely happened, and you can check the CSPAN2 archives for the press briefing in full.

There are many disinfectants such as hydrogen peroxide and alcohol to name a couple. But the media had to latch on to bleach as though it was the only one. They're either totally ignorant or completely biased.

Eg_cruz 04-19-2024 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dusty_Star (Post 2322638)
CNN boss Mark Thompson says network faces 'existential crisis,' plans eventual switch away from cable TV.

"Thompson said that one possibility is to have CNN users register so that the network can then sell information about its audience to advertisers."

CNN boss Mark Thompson says network faces 'existential crisis'

Bye don’t let the door hit you on the way out

Caymus 04-19-2024 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by GoRedSox! (Post 2322986)
The greatest fiction in the news media today is about the “mainstream media” and how liberal it is. That notion is a pure myth, but it plays like David vs. Goliath situation, and so it is perpetuated.

Fox News is as much a part of the mainstream media as any other. It’s been around for almost 30 years, and has led cable ratings for over 20 consecutive years. Their audience is roughly equal to, and in some years bigger than, CNN and MSNBC combined. Fox News is the cable news Goliath, not vice-versa. And while much smaller, Newmax and OAN are out there for those who are even farther to the right of Sean Hannity and Jesse Watters.

Add to that the dominance of online media (Fox News, Breitbart, Epoch Times, Daily Caller, Washington Examiner, and many others). The left does not approach this in online unique visitors.

The place where conservative media absolutely dominates is talk radio. Rush Limbaugh was the king while he was living, but talk radio is still dominated by the right. There are many right wing talk radio programs, but you would be hard pressed to find any on the left at all.

And then you have podcasts, again dominated by conservatives starting with Joe Rogan. The left has some, but they are not in the same league.

The one part of the media that is totally dominated by the left is the newspapers. But readership continues to plummet and hundreds of newspapers close each year.

I am not putting this post up to take sides. I recognize a right or left bias when I see or hear it and most of the media is not straight down the middle. But the notion that conservatives are the little guy fighting this gigantic left wing mainstream media is false. Conservative media is bigger in totality, make far higher profits, and they are certainly just as much a part of the “mainstream media” as all other media.

Some may not believe this, but ask yourself how DJT media’s new stock, even after the price decline, values his media organization at $4 billion even though they reported revenue of only $4 million last year and lost tens of millions of dollars.

I'm curious. Where do you put NPR?

OrangeBlossomBaby 04-19-2024 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by mikemalloy (Post 2323017)
There are many disinfectants such as hydrogen peroxide and alcohol to name a couple. But the media had to latch on to bleach as though it was the only one. They're either totally ignorant or completely biased.

Regardless of what kind of disinfectant - you wouldn't INJECT it into your body. That was the thing they latched on to. Bleach, peroxide (which is a type of bleach), isopropyl alcohol, grain alcohol, ammonia - it doesn't matter. You don't fill a hypodermic syringe with the stuff and inject it into your body. For a president to even SUGGEST that someone study the possibility shows ignorance of just basic common sense.

Dusty_Star 04-19-2024 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by mikemalloy (Post 2323017)
There are many disinfectants such as hydrogen peroxide and alcohol to name a couple. But the media had to latch on to bleach as though it was the only one. They're either totally ignorant or completely biased.


Oooh! I vote for both!

Stu from NYC 04-19-2024 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Robojo (Post 2322882)
I find it exceptionally funny that when talking about something like CNN people Always Feel the need to insert something like Fox News instead of just defending CNN.

They do that all the time

Tvflguy 04-19-2024 09:36 AM

Appears that the Moderators are still asleep. Some posts are so obviously political. Seems as if they pick and choose…..

airstreamingypsy 04-19-2024 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager (Post 2322959)
Because thats what people want.
After the 2020 election Fox News started to distance themselves from the absurd election deniers. What they found out real quickly is thier audience simply shifted to Newsmax or the others that told them what they really wanted to hear… Despite it being true or not. Fox quickly returned to what their base audience wanted to hear.

It's just like the feeds you see on your phone or computer. They all know if they tell you something you want to hear you will stay engaged and that's what it's really all about. It doesn't make a difference whether it's true or not

It will destroy the country...... people sitting home getting riled up, being frightened all day long of imagined boogeymen, shooting people who knock on their door. I met a lady, in TV, who told me she's afraid to go places.... in TV!!! It's not healthy to have it on all day.

mraines 04-19-2024 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2322662)
Very few.

IMO the only reason that CNN continued to draw breath for as long as it has, is the fact that virtually every major airport in the country with those big overhead TVs, have them tuned to CNN. You’re (thankfully) seeing fewer and fewer of them.

Well some of us prefer that to having FOX shoved in our faces and ears everywhere we go around here.

mraines 04-19-2024 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ron32162 (Post 2322984)
Fox is #1 rated and can afford a big law suit hit. #1 means they must be doing something right. I do believe cnn rated the lowest would have to close up shop if they were hit with any type of law suit like that. I do not watch either.

And why did they have a lawsuit to begin with? It's ok with you that they can afford to pay a fine because so many watch them spout lies?

mraines 04-19-2024 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2323007)
You do realize that that has been thoroughly debunked, haven't you?

Yes, all the "real" (cough) news outlets immediately jumped on that bandwagon. But they were all wrong.

The UV light comment was factually correct. It has been used in lung infections for some time.

And he NEVER said to inject bleach. Period, Full Stop.

He is on video suggesting injecting a disinfectant.

Topspinmo 04-19-2024 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRcorvette (Post 2322919)
Since we can’t get political here there is no point in commenting!


No that depends…:eclipsee_gold_cup:

Topspinmo 04-19-2024 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by mraines (Post 2323061)
He is on video suggesting injecting a disinfectant.

Why not show video to back up your claim?

mraines 04-19-2024 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager (Post 2322959)
Because thats what people want.
After the 2020 election Fox News started to distance themselves from the absurd election deniers. What they found out real quickly is thier audience simply shifted to Newsmax or the others that told them what they really wanted to hear… Despite it being true or not. Fox quickly returned to what their base audience wanted to hear.

It's just like the feeds you see on your phone or computer. They all know if they tell you something you want to hear you will stay engaged and that's what it's really all about. It doesn't make a difference whether it's true or not

It's a sad commentary on the state of our nation. Don't blame CNN for misinformation and hate, that come from FOX and Orange Man.

Dusty_Star 04-19-2024 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by mraines (Post 2323054)
And why did they have a lawsuit to begin with? It's ok with you that they can afford to pay a fine because so many watch them spout lies?


I think it is fine to talk about the Fox news lawsuit, but without mentioning the successful suit by Nick Sandman against CNN, the Washington Post, & NBC & all of the other outlets that have been sued i.e., Rolling Stone, ABC, Gannet, the New York Times, & CBS is a trifle disingenous.

Two Bills 04-19-2024 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2323063)
Why not show video to back up your claim?

Post #52

Stu from NYC 04-19-2024 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dusty_Star (Post 2323066)
I think it is fine to talk about the Fox news lawsuit, but without mentioning the successful suit by Nick Sandman against CNN, the Washington Post, & NBC & all of the other outlets that have been sued i.e., Rolling Stone, ABC, Gannet, the New York Times, & CBS is a trifle disingenous.

Some people on here will not want to be confused with facts. Thanks for your post

Caymus 04-19-2024 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mraines (Post 2323065)
It's a sad commentary on the state of our nation. Don't blame CNN for misinformation and hate, that come from FOX and Orange Man.

Who are you writing about?

rustyp 04-19-2024 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Robojo (Post 2322882)
I find it exceptionally funny that when talking about something like CNN people Always Feel the need to insert something like Fox News instead of just defending CNN.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuZBfX2mW7s

mraines 04-19-2024 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robojo (Post 2322882)
I find it exceptionally funny that when talking about something like CNN people Always Feel the need to insert something like Fox News instead of just defending CNN.

So, I will reply to that and defend CNN. I watch them and find that while, yes, they are biased, they will present both sides. I have also heard them criticize Biden and the White House. Michael Smerconish is very informative and fair. Unfortunately, those that watch the "other" network, do not seem to be open to the truth. They still believe the election was stolen and defend the biggest con artist ever.

Bob45 04-19-2024 11:21 AM

News Nation
 
Does anybody watch News Nation? I get it with Youtube TV. I think they're more middle of the road than the others.
Bob


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