Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1898161)

That means one less card I have to carry in my purse or worry about losing. If they learn how to successfully chip all my cards and keys, I'll be one darned happy camper. With a lighter purse. Or maybe no purse at all. No more purses that can be stolen or pickpocketed! No more mens' trousers wearing out at the back or front pocket.

ALL that information is stuff you carry on you anyway - and it can easily be stolen by someone with agile fingers. At least if you're chipped - some random Joe can't take it from you.

Maybe put the chip on the inside of the elbow - not likely anyone with a scanner will be able to scan that without being noticed!

I'm all for it.

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1898156)

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3. 500 people haven't died from vaccines. There are NO reports of death as a direct result of the vaccine. There are reports of a handful (not 500) of people who have had the vaccine... and subsequently died. But there has been no actual link made to those vaccines and the deaths at this point. One is still under investigation.

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1898175)

I believe this is true but this seems inconsistent with the labeling of COVID deaths.

We have seen arguments where deaths from non-Covid causes were still considered Covid deaths because Covid likely contributed to the death - the person with the heart problem would be alive today were it not for the additional stress caused by Covid. Only a subset of the deaths were from Covid alone but all should be considered Covid deaths.

Now we see deaths that occur shortly after an injection but are being told that the measure is not coincidence or correlation but that it must be provable that the death was a directly result of the vaccination. To a dumb engineer like me, it seems the criteria has been changed to fit the desired narrative.

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1898175)

I believe this is true but this seems inconsistent with the labeling of COVID deaths.

We have seen arguments where deaths from non-Covid causes were still considered Covid deaths because Covid likely contributed to the death - the person with the heart problem would be alive today were it not for the additional stress caused by Covid. Only a subset of the deaths were from Covid alone but all should be considered Covid deaths.

Now we see deaths that occur shortly after an injection but are being told that the measure is not coincidence or correlation but that it must be provable that the death was a directly result of the vaccination. To a dumb engineer like me, it seems the criteria has been changed to fit the desired narrative.

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1898188)

So far, we DO have deaths from people positive for COVID-19 that are PROVEN to have been caused by COVID-19. There are also lots of people who died, who had COVID, but did not have COVID deaths. Such as some guy with no symptoms, who fell down the stairs and broke his neck. That doesn't get counted as a COVID death even if he had COVID.

We do NOT have deaths from people who were vaccinated that were PROVEN to have been caused by the vaccine.

I don't see any conflict here at all.

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1898167)

But this isn't about your rights. You don't have a "right" to a passport. There's nothing in the US Constitution allowing you the "right" to a passport. There's nothing in the Constitution offering you a "right" to enter other countries with or without a passport, with or without proof of immunization.

Each country determines what is best for them. We don't always agree with what's best for them, but it's their country and they make the decisions. This isn't an empire. It's a country. We are not rulers of the entire planet. We govern our own piece of it.

If you want to go to THAT country, then you have to abide by THEIR rules. And if that country requires proof of immunization, don't you think it's a lot easier on YOU - if you have that proof built into your passport instead of having to carry around MORE paperwork every time you travel to THAT country?

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1898188)

So far, we DO have deaths from people positive for COVID-19 that are PROVEN to have been caused by COVID-19. There are also lots of people who died, who had COVID, but did not have COVID deaths. Such as some guy with no symptoms, who fell down the stairs and broke his neck. That doesn't get counted as a COVID death even if he had COVID.

We do NOT have deaths from people who were vaccinated that were PROVEN to have been caused by the vaccine.

I don't see any conflict here at all.

Originally Posted by Love2Swim (Post 1898204)

I would expect the stress from a severe case of Covid would more likely contribute to death in a heart patient, rather than getting a vaccine would.

Originally Posted by Scott O (Post 1897994)

He’s no more of a quack than Fauci or saying the NYT, or ABC News is good unbiased journalism....it’s called your subjective opinion and you seem to believe no one is allowed to one but yours...the 2 examples of journalism and I use that loosely, also told us our President was involved in Russian collusion for years as well....

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1897838)

So, where is our "vaccine passport" for tuberculosis, dengue, rubella, poliomyelitis, trypanosomiasis, and visceral larva migrans????? I thought so. Just another example of how a minor player in the world of infectious disease has blossomed into a full blown phobia. .....and don't forget your mask:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Originally Posted by OpusX1 (Post 1897858)

I’m not sure if the yellow fever vaccine is required by the country your visiting or required by the US in order to get back in.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1897838)

So, where is our "vaccine passport" for tuberculosis, dengue, rubella, poliomyelitis, trypanosomiasis, and visceral larva migrans????? I thought so. Just another example of how a minor player in the world of infectious disease has blossomed into a full blown phobia. .....and don't forget your mask:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Originally Posted by pdmarc1 (Post 1897980)

500 people in the United States have died so far after taking covid vaccines. See children's defense health fund vaccine site Robert Kennedy who is against pushing vaccines that are not needed. This information was posted on the Lew Rockwell website. For more information about vaccines see Dr Mercola website. The mainstream media is saying the people that died was from some other cause. Hank Aaron got the vaccines and then he was dead. His health was good. The same with the Miami Doctor. I am the same age at 56. There is no doubt the vaccine killed him. But it is your choice to take that chance, you cannot sue the vaccine makers if you get injured or your loved ones cant sue if you die.

The latest news is also that a woman in Virginia 58 years old and a man in California who was pro-vaccine and excited to take them have died yesterday after receiving the first dose of covid vaccines.

Please be careful Dr Mercola said these vaccines comprise PEG (polyethylene glycol) nanoparticles (particles the size of 10-9 meters smaller than colloidal at 10-6 meters) that cause allergic reaction and anaphlactic shock and death. The smaller the particle size the greater the reactivity so the PEG nanoparticles react quickly. Yes, PEG the same ingredient in antifreeze is in your vaccine despite the loud denials of the people distributing it. Do not risk death and take this vaccine, it does not stop covid.
I am 56 years old and have a masters in engineering from GWU and did the research and am not taking any vaccines because they are not animal tested, and it is not proven safe. You are no more than a guinea pig for the US government. I worked for the US government as an engineer for 30 years. Please do the work and research yourself before you rush to get these injections. I do not want to hear of people in our Villages community passing away from something that could have been avoided.