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junction29 10-06-2020 05:39 AM
Totally agree
 
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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1843380)
It is a weaponized virus developed at a laboratory in China, no doubt to kill people, which is what it is doing.
I think this was started deliberately by China and now that they have seen how successful this has been in damaging western economies, expect some more đź‘żđź‘ż

donassaid 10-06-2020 05:42 AM
"Real deaths from Covid 19, without contributing factors of obesity, diabetes, asthma, pneumonia, high blood pressure and heart disease are less than 15,000 according to the CDC. How about we get some "honest numbers"?

Pamelah 10-06-2020 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by jchase (Post 1843366)
Look at the Flu deaths in the past five year!
The difference: There are flu vaccinations, there are none for Covid. Does that tell us that millions of people aren’t vaccinated for the flu, get sick and die? Kinda like non mask wearers? It would be interesting to know how many of those flu deaths occurred in non vaccinated folks. Kinda like non mask folk.

MandoMan 10-06-2020 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by olliedog1950 (Post 1843325)
I took at look at major United States wars and compared those deaths to COVID-19, no comparison, COVID-19 is much deadlier.
Vietnam lasted 116 months 55,280 Americans died 502 deaths a month
Korea lasted 37 months 36,574 Americans died, 988 deaths a month
WWII lasted 45 months 405,399 Americans died, 9,009 a month
WWI lasted 19 months 116,516 Americans died, 6,132 a month
The Civil War lasted 48 months Confederate and U.S. total deaths of 498,332, 10,382 a month
The American Revolution lasted 100 months 4,435 Americans died 44 a month
Looking at all wars from 1775 to 1991, 41,892,128 men and women fought and served our country 959,831 gave their lives. 2.29% of those who served died protecting America.
In less than 8 months there have been 7,334,054 COVID-19 cases, deaths are 208,731. 27,000 Americans are dying each month with a death rate of 2.85% Department of Veteran's Affairs, John Hopkins University & Medicine
Let's be safe out there!
This is horrible, but in context, in 1918-1920, when the world population was one fourth of what it is now, 28% of Americans are thought to have contracted the Spanish Influenza, and 2-3% of the population died: 675,000 people. The Bubonic Plague and Pneumonic Plague outbreaks of the mid-1300s and later are thought to have killed about a quarter to a third of the population of Europe. You think COVID-19 is scary? Imagine if it were like the 14th century plague. 110 million people dead just in this country. Horrifying. Two billion dead world-wide? We will survive our own particular pandemic, but numbers like this explain why it’s just as important to pour research and preparation money into pandemic prevention as into our military. There will be a “next one,” and it could be much worse.

rphil11ort 10-06-2020 05:58 AM
Problem is unlike the rest of the world we dont really know how many people died from covid. If you die of a heart attack but had.covid you died of covid. Same for car accident or anything else. The rest of the world does not do that. As the.president says 1 is to much but a real figure would be nice

mjilek 10-06-2020 06:01 AM
How about the flu, cancer, and other illnesses. Your comparison and analogy are pretty much meaningless!

banjobob 10-06-2020 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Scott O (Post 1843471)
Thank you, it was exactly what point I was going to make. The statistics have been extremely skewed from the beginning, especially when they decided to make it profitable for hospitals to care for a patient with covid in the diagnosis, so suddenly it appeared on so many’s records...I know personally someone who did not have it and it was on their discharge instructions. They argued why it was on there and it was a moot point to the hospital in Atlanta...
As with so many things it is the money , list it as Covid and the fee is a lot more. Covid is a serious issue IF you have other issues .

Girlcopper 10-06-2020 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1843380)
It is a weaponized virus developed at a laboratory in China, no doubt to kill people, which is what it is doing.
Paranoid thinking

Pettys1 10-06-2020 06:07 AM
Exactly... They say most deaths or Covid related.. Instead of cancer,heart attack it's all Covid. I know of a person who just died from old age 97 an in poor health but yet it was a Covid related death. It's all a scare tactic.

PugMom 10-06-2020 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by donassaid (Post 1843482)
"Real deaths from Covid 19, without contributing factors of obesity, diabetes, asthma, pneumonia, high blood pressure and heart disease are less than 15,000 according to the CDC. How about we get some "honest numbers"?
i had a discussion with a medical professional last week. i asked: if a person with covid is accidentally hit & killed by a car, what is his cause of death? answer: covid. they said this with a serious face. :faint:

Beyond The Wall 10-06-2020 06:18 AM
The virus is extremely contagious. The difference in the data is who is most susceptible . All the wars and Spanish Flu kill the young. The Wuhan Flu kills the elderly.

LoisR 10-06-2020 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by olliedog1950 (Post 1843325)
I took at look at major United States wars and compared those deaths to COVID-19, no comparison, COVID-19 is much deadlier.
Vietnam lasted 116 months 55,280 Americans died 502 deaths a month
Korea lasted 37 months 36,574 Americans died, 988 deaths a month
WWII lasted 45 months 405,399 Americans died, 9,009 a month
WWI lasted 19 months 116,516 Americans died, 6,132 a month
The Civil War lasted 48 months Confederate and U.S. total deaths of 498,332, 10,382 a month
The American Revolution lasted 100 months 4,435 Americans died 44 a month
Looking at all wars from 1775 to 1991, 41,892,128 men and women fought and served our country 959,831 gave their lives. 2.29% of those who served died protecting America.
In less than 8 months there have been 7,334,054 COVID-19 cases, deaths are 208,731. 27,000 Americans are dying each month with a death rate of 2.85% Department of Veteran's Affairs, John Hopkins University & Medicine
Let's be safe out there!
And if one person acted appropriately, wisely, and accepted the professional guidance offered, most could have been avoided.

Byte1 10-06-2020 06:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by olliedog1950 (Post 1843325)
I took at look at major United States wars and compared those deaths to COVID-19, no comparison, COVID-19 is much deadlier.
Vietnam lasted 116 months 55,280 Americans died 502 deaths a month
Korea lasted 37 months 36,574 Americans died, 988 deaths a month
WWII lasted 45 months 405,399 Americans died, 9,009 a month
WWI lasted 19 months 116,516 Americans died, 6,132 a month
The Civil War lasted 48 months Confederate and U.S. total deaths of 498,332, 10,382 a month
The American Revolution lasted 100 months 4,435 Americans died 44 a month
Looking at all wars from 1775 to 1991, 41,892,128 men and women fought and served our country 959,831 gave their lives. 2.29% of those who served died protecting America.
In less than 8 months there have been 7,334,054 COVID-19 cases, deaths are 208,731. 27,000 Americans are dying each month with a death rate of 2.85% Department of Veteran's Affairs, John Hopkins University & Medicine
Let's be safe out there!
More people die of cancer every year than any virus. Guess we just have to live with people dying during our lifetime. Everyone dies. It's a fact of life.

kenoc7 10-06-2020 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by jchase (Post 1843366)
Look at the Flu deaths in the past five year!
Flu deaths usually about 30,000 per year. Current projections for the year after the first COVID death are 300,000 - 350,000 so there is just a little difference!

boilermaker7091 10-06-2020 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by olliedog1950 (Post 1843325)
I took at look at major United States wars and compared those deaths to COVID-19, no comparison, COVID-19 is much deadlier.
Vietnam lasted 116 months 55,280 Americans died 502 deaths a month
Korea lasted 37 months 36,574 Americans died, 988 deaths a month
WWII lasted 45 months 405,399 Americans died, 9,009 a month
WWI lasted 19 months 116,516 Americans died, 6,132 a month
The Civil War lasted 48 months Confederate and U.S. total deaths of 498,332, 10,382 a month
The American Revolution lasted 100 months 4,435 Americans died 44 a month
Looking at all wars from 1775 to 1991, 41,892,128 men and women fought and served our country 959,831 gave their lives. 2.29% of those who served died protecting America.
In less than 8 months there have been 7,334,054 COVID-19 cases, deaths are 208,731. 27,000 Americans are dying each month with a death rate of 2.85% Department of Veteran's Affairs, John Hopkins University & Medicine
Let's be safe out there!
A couple of problems with your reasoning. First you do know the flu does this on a regular yearly basis but you overlooked that.

Secondly you figures for some of the wars are way off so be careful of how you report your statistics. Vietnam deaths we’re over 65,000 and the Civil War was over 650,000 and the latest from historians are talking about that figure be over 700,000. But until I see better facts I’m sticking with the 650,000 number.

Also if you remove New York you’ll be amazed how much the current virus numbers drop. So be car with your stats.


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