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Dana1963 08-14-2020 06:36 AM

Virus’s go into a Huber nation stage just like honey it can last and be edible after hundreds of years.

theruizs 08-14-2020 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 1817092)
Thanks for the informative response. I am still not sure if there is a need to make a difference between killing and deactivating the virus. As long as the nasty stuff is put into a state where it can not be infectious I guess one can use whatever term makes them feel good?

The distinction is irrelevant. Not even all biologists agree on it. It only matters to the “experts” on this list who like to display their “intelligence.”

donassaid 08-14-2020 07:19 AM

Quit waiting on a vaccine and petition our government to release the 63 million doses of hydroxochloroquine. This drug (much maligned by so called researchers and those beholden to big Pharma and Bill Gates) has been proven effective by doctors all over the country, especially for prevention and early onset treatment. Available over the counter around the world but forbidden in the U.S.A. Go figure.

Scorpyo 08-14-2020 07:31 AM

I am neither a doctor nor a scientist so I’ll relate what I’ve heard in layman’s terms. I’ve heard that infectious things like viruses can last inactively in frozen ice indefinitely. Yes, thousands of years or longer. When defrosted they can become active. That is why some are concerned about glaciers melting. They don’t know what they may contain from long ago. Others are concerned about what we may release from places like the rain forest as we continue to move deeper into it. The fact is, although we think we’re hot stuff, we’re just another species on this earth and there probably is stuff we cannot even see that’s deadlier than Ebola. So in my opinion we should try to live life to its fullest and enjoy it as much as we can as we don’t know what tomorrow brings.

Eg_cruz 08-14-2020 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by New Englander (Post 1816552)
If this article is accurate and the virus doesn't die in freezing temps. Pray a vaccine is discovered soon.

Coronavirus found on frozen seafood in China

Put in such high hopes for a vaccine that’s going to save us all it’s just a little over reach, we’ve had the flu vaccine and flu shots for years and years and years and it doesn’t stop or prevent the flu.

GaryKoca 08-14-2020 07:39 AM

We know that the theory that "the virus can't live above 77 degrees" is obviously a myth. Still lots of cases in the Southern states especially.

kendi 08-14-2020 08:05 AM

Just take the proper precautions and don’t worry about it.

Byte1 08-14-2020 08:53 AM

Oh my goodness! The sky is falling again.
There must be a new virus out today that removes common sense from seniors.

Since the virus survives cold temperatures, perhaps I can kill it by wearing heated gloves? Hmmm, have to check to see at what temperature the virus dies. :1rotfl:

OhioBuckeye 08-14-2020 09:10 AM

Ohiobuckeye if any of
 
If any of us really knew the answer. We could wash our hands for a half hr. or use a whole bottle of sanitizer then 5 sec. later touch something that’s contaminated. Then what? Are we never to touch anything. Or wear gloves then as soon as we touch something change them again. But as long as we don’t listen about social distancing like the protesters this virus will probably continue, because there’s always a know it all out there that think they know everything or they think they’re some kind of Dr. I pretty much do what they says, but are they right, heck I don’t know but so far I seem healthy but who knows!

Scorpyo 08-14-2020 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye (Post 1817311)
If any of us really knew the answer. We could wash our hands for a half hr. or use a whole bottle of sanitizer then 5 sec. later touch something that’s contaminated. Then what? Are we never to touch anything. Or wear gloves then as soon as we touch something change them again. But as long as we don’t listen about social distancing like the protesters this virus will probably continue, because there’s always a know it all out there that think they know everything or they think they’re some kind of Dr. I pretty much do what they says, but are they right, heck I don’t know but so far I seem healthy but who knows!

When my son was very young he had a problem in school. The teacher informed us that he would not respond to her. I talked to my son about it and asked him why he wouldn’t respond. He finally disclosed that he wouldn’t respond to her questions because he didn’t know the answer. I taught him that responding by “I don’t know the answer” was the answer. I don’t know where I got that bright response from. Guess I was just lucky. Anyway, like you I don’t have any of the answers to this virus but I am a know-it-all. When asked will a vaccine be available? I answer “I don’t know”. When asked if a mask good or bad for you? I answer, “I don’t know”. So, I’m a know-it-all in that I’m positive that I don’t know anything about this virus and am man enough to admit it. I know that I don’t know. How’s that for logic.

jimjamuser 08-14-2020 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 1816628)
As viruses are not really alive you shouldn't be surprised that they are not inactivated by freezing. In fact viral samples are often frozen for storage. Live viral vaccines such as the MMR, ChickenPox, and oral Polio are all shipped frozen and must be stored at the doctor's office in a medical freezer to preserve their infectivity. RNA viruses are often stored at minus 80 Celsius. [-112 F]

Thanks for your expertise.

jimjamuser 08-14-2020 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by gadaboutgal (Post 1817086)
The virus is not "alive" and so it is not killed, it can be deactivated with alcohol or by washing with soap and clean water.
The virus is covered with a fatty envelope that allows it to attach to surfaces. The“Soap molecules can pry themselves into the fatty layer of this particular virus and break it up, thus inactivating the virus.” for more specifics, see:Coronavirus: Why soap works better than hand sanitizer - UCHealth Today

That is one very informative link!

jimjamuser 08-14-2020 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Leadbone1 (Post 1817134)
We don’t pray about the common cold or the flu so why would I pray about this? 95% of the people that get this it don’t know they have it or have mild symptoms. It’s 99% plus survivable the same as the flu. The media has done a great job of turning many otherwise intelligent people into paranoid idiots

The US media does NOT control the governments of Europe, Australia, and other nations. So, ask yourself WHY ? do they NOT want US citizens traveling to their countries? Please pay attention to what IS happening in the world - for my and all of our sakes!!!

jimjamuser 08-14-2020 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Scorpyo (Post 1817237)
I am neither a doctor nor a scientist so I’ll relate what I’ve heard in layman’s terms. I’ve heard that infectious things like viruses can last inactively in frozen ice indefinitely. Yes, thousands of years or longer. When defrosted they can become active. That is why some are concerned about glaciers melting. They don’t know what they may contain from long ago. Others are concerned about what we may release from places like the rain forest as we continue to move deeper into it. The fact is, although we think we’re hot stuff, we’re just another species on this earth and there probably is stuff we cannot even see that’s deadlier than Ebola. So in my opinion we should try to live life to its fullest and enjoy it as much as we can as we don’t know what tomorrow brings.

Kudos for philosophical and big picture thinking.

jimjamuser 08-14-2020 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Scorpyo (Post 1817325)
When my son was very young he had a problem in school. The teacher informed us that he would not respond to her. I talked to my son about it and asked him why he wouldn’t respond. He finally disclosed that he wouldn’t respond to her questions because he didn’t know the answer. I taught him that responding by “I don’t know the answer” was the answer. I don’t know where I got that bright response from. Guess I was just lucky. Anyway, like you I don’t have any of the answers to this virus but I am a know-it-all. When asked will a vaccine be available? I answer “I don’t know”. When asked if a mask good or bad for you? I answer, “I don’t know”. So, I’m a know-it-all in that I’m positive that I don’t know anything about this virus and am man enough to admit it. I know that I don’t know. How’s that for logic.

In a transparent society you can know what you don't know. That is not true in all societies. Truths can be hidden.


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