Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1932877)

Nice rant and even nicer tag line.

Do you know Tony Fauci?
Have you ever had dinner with him?
Have you ever conversed with him?

Bottom line----when it comes to Fauci, you have no idea what you are babbling about.

And when it comes to your immune system being "just fine" due to Vit C,D, zinc and mag, you are even more clueless.

Did you get your polio vaccine? Or did you take vitamins and argue with the experts?
Smallpox? Tetanus? Diphtheria? Pertussis? Or is it just the COVID vaccine that gets your undies in a bunch?

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1932891)

From a strictly "who will and will not get ill or die" point of view, you are correct.
However, the government is responsible to ALL the people, including the anti-vaxers. So with your philosophy we'll all be wearing masks for a long time. Who will pay the bill for those who last 1 month in the ICU? Who will pay for medical care of the long-haulers?

And BTW, IT IS A VACCINE!!! I've posted the definition of a vaccine several times, so now you can go look it up for yourself

Originally Posted by Gmaf6 (Post 1932951)

Because I get the flu, pneumonia, shingles shots doesn’t mean I won’t get those either.....once vaccinated, I choose to live my life without fear. We’ve had enough.....if you’re fearful, do what you want. It’s becoming more and more about control.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1933196)

My opinion is that many Village People are like little children in a car on a LONG trip - "Are we there yet?" - "When is this damn CV thing over with" - "I am impatient" - "I will stomp my feet and whine"! Also, they like to think of everything as black or white - neglecting the fact that most things in life are shades of grey. This CV crisis has brought out both of these failings - impatience and rash or superficial judgment.

I was seeing the subject of that USA article coming from a mile away (or 7 months ago). Just by reading the daily TOTV threads and posts, one could see that there was going to be a large amount or % of the local area residents that were NOT, likely NOT, going to take the vaccine. I stated that we could likely end up in a disaster where CV could have been defeated, but was NOT. It is looking more and more like the NOTs (the know nots) will carry the day and control US society. Ignorance is prevailing over Science. Dr. Atlas is beating Dr. Fauci in this tag team match to the death of potentially ONE million US citizens!

Other English-speaking 1st world countries like Australia and New Zealand (and also Japan) had THEIR CV under control even before the vaccines were developed. They could do it with masks, distance inside, and co-operation and teamwork. The US can't finish the job on CV even with vaccines. What has become wrong with our country?????!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1933219)

Those countries completely closed their borders and basically stopped their citizens from entering or leaving the country. On the other hand, we let anyone into our country, citizens or not...

Originally Posted by kenoc7 (Post 1933119)

Don't throw your mask away next winter - flu, coughs and colds at record lows this year everywhere because of masks. I'll be wearing one from Nov to April in future.

Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1933219)

Those countries completely closed their borders and basically stopped their citizens from entering or leaving the country. On the other hand, we let anyone into our country, citizens or not...

Originally Posted by Aloha1 (Post 1933222)

We WILL achieve herd immunity one way or another. Either through vaccinations or those who refuse to get vaccinated getting Covid.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1933137)

Interesting. Flu is being reported at a lower than average rate. Coughs and colds are not reportable so there is no way anyone knows if there are more or less than average.

Flu may be lower due to masks, or maybe because anything that can be reported as Covid is, or it may just be a lower than average flu season. There is no way to know.

But since it is likely that influenza viruses behave similar to coronaviruses as far as masks go, then the person wearing one is doing more to protect others than himself. So good luck wearing a mask from November through April, enjoy yourself.

Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1933224)

I really don't care how we do it as long as they do it behind the scenes and let the rest of us resume our NORMAL lives. They have had their fun and games with us, so its time for them to back off and let the lemmings run off the cliff while the rest of us just get back to our regular lifestyles.
Just remember that not everyone catches the flu that refuses the flu shot. I've refused it for 50 years and never had the flu. If I catch the flu in my twilight years, I guess it is my own fault. But, I accept the responsibility for it and do not blame others.

Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1933219)

Those countries completely closed their borders and basically stopped their citizens from entering or leaving the country. On the other hand, we let anyone into our country, citizens or not...

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1933225)

Not trying to be argumentive. But, Australia reported that their flu season was MUCH less. They stated that it was due to mask-wearing due to CV. Australia's Flu season was in our summer, so they were in a good position to have early research.

Originally Posted by Aloha1 (Post 1933222)

We WILL achieve herd immunity one way or another. Either through vaccinations or those who refuse to get vaccinated getting Covid.

Originally Posted by Hedyg (Post 1933208)

I had the virus in November 2019-I have been vaccinated. In my opinion a mask protects ME not someone else. I feel I am capable of making my own decision as to whether to wear a mask or to go to a particular place-really fed up with businesses requiring masks and trying to avoid them when I can, unfortunately it’s impossible to avoid shopping altogether.