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Old 02-06-2021, 11:48 AM
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The only protection that really works is a N95 facemask that has been properly fitted, discarded & replaced routinely. All of your homemade cloth & surgical masks are of little to no help and can be potentially harmful. Once you wear a mask, that mask is now considered contaminated and should be discarded or disinfected with a bleach solution. If you touch the outside of the mask and touch your face, you just gave a contaminant a way inside your body. In reusing a mask you are breathing through a petri dish of bacteria and worse being fed with your warm humid exhalations.

Now that many people have been vaccinated or have natural immunity the "mask mandates for all" needs to be changed. Just those who have not been vaccinated or do not have natural immunity should wear a mask but one that works, as in a N95.

People who have been vaccinated or have natural immunity from having COVID (like I have) do not need to be masked; it would be pointless.

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I am a retired RN, EMT-Paramedic with an ASN degree graduating summa cum laude, a member of 2 national honor societies, with past American Heart Association certifications in Advanced Cardiac Life Support and Pediatric Advanced Life Support.

Getting erroneous & questionable information from the government and putting together homemade charts is not helping anyone but continuing to feed the hysteria & fear. I worked during the onset of AIDS/HIV and H1N1 and never have I seen such a level of misinformation and a bombardment of articles that focus on rare atypical cases.
I disagree with everything expressed there.
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Old 02-06-2021, 11:50 AM
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I have yet to meet a "denier", but there are many who refuse to live their lives according to "experts" who change the rules almost daily. Just because someone chooses not to wear a mask where it isn't required or requested does not make them a "denier" and no one should assume that they are no more than an individual who chooses not to respond to "the sky is falling" people who are scared $hitless.

If someone goes around without a mask and doesn't sneeze or cough on you or something you touch(and if you do touch I assume you're applying a sanitizing solution of at least 70% alcohol)then you have nothing to worry about.
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Old 02-06-2021, 11:52 AM
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Old 02-06-2021, 11:53 AM
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I asked someone to put a mask on in the grocery store the other day and the scruffy, dirty old man said he did not believe in the virus. They are definitely around because they all watch the same news feed.
Did he say that he didn’t believe in the virus OR did he say that he didn’t believe in wearing a mask? Perhaps he got a little annoyed when asked to wear a mask when he just doesn’t believe in them. If the store that you both were in does not require them, then you don’t have much to complain about.
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Old 02-06-2021, 11:55 AM
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I’ve read that vaccinated people can still be infected. They should be immune but I read they can carry the virus home or elsewhere and pass it to others who are still vulnerable. If true, shouldn’t they continue to wear a mask to reduce the potential to spread it?
That is true and the recommendation of Health Experts. The vaccine prevents hospitalization and death for the person vaccinated. But, still - keep your mask on until herd immunity has dropped CV positive cases to below 2%. Then it is possible to return to "NORMAL"
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Old 02-06-2021, 11:57 AM
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No...I personally know NO ONE who has gotten really sick or died from COVID. Just the facts.
This whole thing is blown out of proportion. How many people pass away during a year..and how many people passed away this past year?
I bet the number is close.
My barometer in this pandemic is how many hospitals all over the country had maxed out and turned patients away. Other horrendous circumstances out there with the medical community having to make decisions as to who to treat and who not to treat, patients waiting HOURS to be off loaded from ambulances because there was no room for them in the hospitals, refrigerator trucks being utilized as make-shift morgues, hospital beds set up in parking lots in tents and ramp garages. These all occurred right here in our country. These scenarios are my barometer. In a normal year of deaths, these scenarios have never occurred. That tells me one thing. What does it tell you?
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While N95 masks are most effective, doctors I’ve spoken to say leave em for the hospitals and wear the three plys!
When the recently enacted DPA kicks in, we will all soon have N-95 masks or equivalent.
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We are only 6 weeks into widespread distribution of the vaccines and only 3 weeks into 2nd shots given. It is way too early to tell just what the longevity of the antibodies are but remember the MRNA teaches your immune system (T cells) to respond to actual Covid if you get it by making more antibodies.
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""People who have been vaccinated or have natural immunity from having COVID (like I have) do not need to be masked; it would be pointless."""
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I disagree with everything expressed there.
I agree, nowhere in that post do the indicate any degree as a doctor or immunologist or have done any research in the disease or vaccines or have worked in the field of COVID. There are a whole lot of more educated and smarter folks out there that would laugh this view out of the room. There are nurses and other medical personnel who take the ignorant path because after all, they are human and like many, read the internet and form their opinions through opinions of anyone they agree with or that disagree with the science. We are still on a learning curve but I will take the steps asked of me by the science and those that actually study and work it.
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Old 02-06-2021, 12:01 PM
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And most of us are aware and go on with our daily lives as before...and I am not fearful either...
And many are "UNAWARE"! That's why the USA has the biggest CV problem in the world - we are # 1 , yeah! And the "deniers" are making things worse.

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Old 02-06-2021, 12:12 PM
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Are you *really* doing all you can not to catch it? Have you only eaten the very healthiest of food?, have you exercised each and everyday (getting in at least 10K steps?), have you refrained from drinking alcohol and exposure to all carcinogens?, do you stay at or below your recommended weight? ..... you are demanding that people do everything not to catch it or become ‘spreaders’ - but - really - have you done everything you can do?
*** I am not saying you have to do anything - that is totally your choice .... I am just saying everyone should just demand the best of themselves. ***
All we really have the power to do is be kind and respect the opinions of others.

BTW - just from personal experience - I know MANY people who have died in the last year or two - from many things! I know of someone who fell in their home and died of complications from the fall - yet their cause of death stated ‘Covid’ - merely because they tested positive when admitted to the hospital. I know people in their 80s and 90s who have died of ‘Covid’ - but, I know the severe health issues they had been struggling with for many years. My opinion only - it is unfortunate that their last several months on earth weren’t as enriching as they should have been - because of all the fears and restrictions due to “Covid”. In my opinion, a 96 year old is going to die (it is a blessing they lived to 96!!!) why can’t we make their last weeks on earth as enjoyable as possible - we can’t because people are saying it is more important to fear a virus and stay locked up - than being comforted and surrounded by friends and family in their final days (yes, my opinion - we can and should wear masks to do that).

I am in my 70s and I wear a mask and distance in public - but, I am not angry or hateful of those who do not. I have travelled (by plane) and attended large gatherings many times in the past year - I have lived life - because I know I will die - maybe sooner than later. I want to live into my 80s and 90s - like those I know who have died this past year - but - I certainly do not want to die alone - with only strangers tending to me.

I welcome your opinions - but, please do not be critical of those who simply want to live life - in the short time they have left (and yes, we are doing that wearing mask).
It is possible to "live life" and still stay safe yourself and help keep others around you safe. The problem is the hardcore DENIERS that, apparently, think that EVERYONE should simply ignore a GLOBAL PANDEMIC which kills 5% of all the over 65 people that it can. And the NEW variants are more DEADLY!

Vaccines are coming for all who will take them in the US. So, soon after that we likely will go back to normal - be patient, grasshopper.
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Old 02-06-2021, 12:13 PM
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I know several people in The Villages that have tested positive with no symptoms. They are part of the scary statistics. Yes, some people get very sick but many have few if any symptoms.
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Old 02-06-2021, 12:30 PM
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No...I personally know NO ONE who has gotten really sick or died from COVID. Just the facts.
This whole thing is blown out of proportion. How many people pass away during a year..and how many people passed away this past year?
I bet the number is close.
Cases and deaths are still high. It will rise after Super Bowl - AKA Super Spreader Bowl. TV Land will be divided into those who attend house parties and those who don't - the deniers versus those that believe in reality, risk calculation, and caution. You choose.
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Old 02-06-2021, 12:34 PM
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I have read that after having the virus you may be immune around 3 mo and after being fully vaccinated around 4 mo. My question is so do we need to go through all of the vaccination steps every 4 months?!?
Possibly? But, once per year is more likely according to most experts.
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Old 02-06-2021, 12:38 PM
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Unrelenting fear mongering from the media is driving this.
I would not listen to the “medical experts” because they do not know which end is up.
Long term effects can happen with a vaccine which was developed 10 minutes ago.
I have know many people, of many ages, who got the virus and fully recovered. It is a flu.
It is good to take precautions.
It is most dangerous for people who or ill or debilitated, if you are not one of these, you should be okay.
Hope you leave lots of money to your grandchildren to pay the debt.
And I am really, really sick of hearing about it.
Seriously wrong!
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