[jimjamuser]

Reference to byte1's post-----------I agree...........with the statement about the world being overpopulated. While it is true that wars and pestilence are the easy and traditional ways of lowering that population, they are NOT the most HUMANE methods of lowering the population. As today's modern and scientific society, it is up to us to find a more humane system. I feel that human society has evolved enough to want to and be able to solve the over-population problem. I could suggest some methods, but without a panel of expert scientists and huge efforts at computer modeling, it would be just a guess. And, human society may (?) need to evolve for maybe another 50 years. After all, we have been reluctant to even face such OBVIOUS problems such as Global Warming. Which like everything else is related to population - even migration - up from the southern border, which will soon be a HUGE problem. You can't understand the "illegal alien" problem without grappling with the population vs available resources problem worldwide.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Byte1

The CDC recommends wearing a mask until they DON'T recommend it. They are political and folks ought to fact check anything they say. My opinion, but like everything that comes from any government, I prefer to fact check with multiple sources as well as common sense. I am not a conspiracy nut but until the government tells us the truth about how this thing came about, I am skeptical of anything that comes from D.C.

Suspicious or coincident facts:
Over four years ago, our gov gave a large amount of money to the Wu Han lab. For what? Who ever heard of that place before the China virus?
A couple years ago, a Chinese national was caught in an U.S. airport in possession of a suspicious bio hazard vial. No details available.
Not suspicious but interesting:
This vaccination has been in development for several years, for SARs(?), etc.?

Explain this:
The stockpile of PPE was depleted at the beginning of this pandemic. Why? How?
Why is it that with the worldwide contagion running rampant, the CDC knew very little about it? Someone dropped the ball?
Why is it that some podunk town with a very small population was full of infection, yet some of us run around with not a care in the world, not taking any precautions and for the past year plus, not a sniffle or cough? On the other hand, those taking complete care and adamant PPE practicing, catch the deathly infection.......how?

Just throwing out some questions, not really caring if anyone responds. Since everyone wants to debate masks and vaccinations, I thought maybe some would wish to know the reasoning for all of this. Animal market? Sure, and I have some ocean front land in Arizona that I will sell you. A leak from the lab? Sure, and the whole world was instantly infected. Not even nuclear fallout spreads that fast.

Yes, questions without answers in the post - which breeds more and more conspiracy theories. The truth is that the WHO knew about a possible Pandemic around Dec. 2019. Even Bob Woodward knew about it on Jan 29, 2020. So, obviously, the CDC knew about it. The better question to ask is why it was not ACTED on. And WHY is America # 1 in CV problems today!

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by Girlcopper

Its mandatory they still wear a mask at any business, office where others have to. No one is exempt just because they were vaccinated. Let the battles start shortly with the ones who refuse to mask up. Just because youre vaccinated doesnt mean you arent a carrier. Have consuderation for others and just wear the mask

Nope, I will only wear a mask IF there is a sign asking me to in order to enter the store. Even then, I may not feel like wearing one. But, I will go along with the hysteria UNTIL I get my second shot. A vaccination that I do not even feel necessary, but going along with my more frail spouse. Every "expert" says something different about spreading it after inoculated against it. I choose to listen to the doctor that said one vaccinated and waiting a specified period of time, I will no longer be able to spread the virus. Of course anyone can spread it on their clothes or by touching a contagious object, but I doubt even the hysterical mask wearers will go into a decontamination unit every time they go out and about.
I suggest that those that are scared, stay home. Quit complaining about those of us that don't care and don't sympathize with them.
I will never tell someone not to wear a mask or take whatever steps to protect themselves. I will tell the ones that demand that I do something for their satisfaction to stick it, because I'm not going to change my lifestyle at the whim of some strangers that are ruled by panic and hysteria.
Less than one percent die from this. Lots more die in car accidents, doctor's mistakes, over doses, etc. If you are scared of dying, then stay in a hermetically sealed space and take lots of vitamins. Also do not allow any visitors.
Yes, I have lost two close persons supposedly "with" COVID, but I have also known over a dozen that have survived the illness, shrugging it off in a matter of a couple days. So, I am realistic that there really is a virus. I also know that my chances of becoming infected is very low and even lower that I would perish from it.
Don't like it? That's everyone's prerogative, right?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by kendi

Not all masks are created equal. Knits and those white disposables actually act like sieves splitting the droplets into smaller particles. These smaller droplets then take longer to fall to the ground than the larger ones causing a higher risk for infection.

Sorry, I have not read or heard of that anywhere.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by DAVES

All is a matter of opinion. For most people, we see it endlessly what I do is fine I object to what you CHOOSE to do.

For me it is exactly the same as driving drunk. My view, you have every right to kill yourself. The reason it is wrong is you risk the life of other people around you.

Unlike killing someone in an auto crash, with covid since it is a 2 week gestation period,
you may never know that you have killed or sent others to the hospital etc.

How can you compare a virus with driving drunk? If one does not have the virus, they are not dangerous. You only find that person GUILTY of being dangerous because of hysteria, not fact. A person driving drunk is positive for alcohol influence and is guilty of willfully putting others in danger. You cannot charge someone with putting you in danger when there is no danger and no evidence of danger.
If I am immune to the virus and refuse to wear a mask then you cannot accuse me of being a danger to you.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Larry chappel

Covid is here to stay just like the flu. Oooooooops I forgot the flu worldwide has disappeared. Have you wondered where it went? My guess, it is now being called Covid to pump up the numbers. Maybe you have a better explanation. Wear your masks, hide from friends and family, watch brick and mortar businesses go under and watch of the degradation of our great country into Marxism and poverty. Sorry for being a downer but in less than a month gas is up $.50 a gal. New taxes being announced daily. I for one can not afford an $8000.00 or more federal tax on my home. Just the beginning.

Hard to understand this post? But. maybe I am better off for NOT understanding it?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Redsmom

Correct. Using a Tele doctor and for a minimal amount of money, I will be receiving my hydroxychloroquine in the mail this week. It will be on my shelf in case I start to feel symptoms. Used for many years and sold over the counter in most countries around the world, no side effects to worry about, I will have a plan in case I contract this virus without putting a genetic modifier into my body. And meanwhile I will take common sense measures to avoid it and the hysteria surrounding it. It’s a shame that the powers that be are allowing people to think there is no treatment other than officially prescribed by our government.

Also spoken by the man that I saw on TV with horns on his helmet and his face painted in good old US of A colors.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Aloha1

Just where is this TV Land?? Hollywood?

Like that do you? TV Land is the playpen of old crazies that play the games of their youth and are young and vibrant in their imaginations. They feel invulnerable like superpersons to the slings and arrows of outrageous pestilence. It is also a real TV channel for old TV sit-coms that lets our TV Landers escape temporarily the reality of today's modern world......stay real......grasshopper!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Aloha1

Patently not true. Covid droplets are VERY small and can pass through many masks available today. Masks serve to reduce the amount of droplets that get through. It is viral load and duration of contact that determines whether you get Covid.

Perhaps you could enlighten us with your medical curricula vitae since you appear to represent yourself as quite the expert.

Although I do not have a medical degree, I was on adjunct staff at the American College Of Emergency Physicians, was pre med in College, have a son who's a PCP and a Daughter In Law whose EM. I keep up by reading medical journals.

OK, I respect those credentials.....good work. However, I stand by my statements that the WATER DROPLETS that CV is REQUIRED to attach to in order to leave one body and go to another (thus spread) - can be stopped by cloth masks. Just better by KN-95 and N-95 masks. We are not THAT far apart on our statements. What I am saying (always) is just COMMON knowledge.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by PugMom

dittos; this week makes ONE YEAR this fiasco has been going on. if you see me out without a mask, ...mind your own business & leave me out of this chaos.

Unfortunately, unless you have a complete hazmat suit on when in public, you become an integral part of the social chaos. Today, we ALL live on the small island called EARTH.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by regas56

It seems every few years or so my flu vaccine changes to keep up with the changes in the flu strains from mutations so doesn't that seem to suggest that the Corona virus will also mutate meaning we may be wearing a mask the rest of our lives? YIKES!!!

No, not necessarily. Many countries have CV under control and do NOT need to MANDATE masks. The US is singularly out of control, like # 1. We can get back in control by having 5 available makers of vaccines and cranking up the DPA. The problem has been in the US, that the people have NOT cooperated with science and medical authorities. We have a cowboy, frontier-style mentality - much to our own undoing!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by sail33or

MASK, MASK, MASK, MASK
TALK, TALK, TALK, TALK

I see The Villages clearing emerging as 50% going about their lives again, Going to the Squares, Eating Out, etc. And 50% will worry and wear Masks. IRONIC is that wearing a Mask is PRIMARILY for the protection of "OTHERS". And "OTHERS" are Not wearing Masks. See the IRONY there.

Reminds me of a comedian once at a huge Concert that asked everyone to shake hands with the person behind them. When you did this the person behind you was turned around trying to shake the hand of the person behind them and so on and so on. Big Laugh at this mental ineptitude.

Or in a 2 person gun stand-off, who will be the 1st to lower their weapon so that BOTH may walk away. Or which nuclear-armed country is willing to scrap some of their weapons to ensure a better, safer world.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Byte1

Nope, I will only wear a mask IF there is a sign asking me to in order to enter the store. Even then, I may not feel like wearing one. But, I will go along with the hysteria UNTIL I get my second shot. A vaccination that I do not even feel necessary, but going along with my more frail spouse. Every "expert" says something different about spreading it after inoculated against it. I choose to listen to the doctor that said one vaccinated and waiting a specified period of time, I will no longer be able to spread the virus. Of course anyone can spread it on their clothes or by touching a contagious object, but I doubt even the hysterical mask wearers will go into a decontamination unit every time they go out and about.
I suggest that those that are scared, stay home. Quit complaining about those of us that don't care and don't sympathize with them.
I will never tell someone not to wear a mask or take whatever steps to protect themselves. I will tell the ones that demand that I do something for their satisfaction to stick it, because I'm not going to change my lifestyle at the whim of some strangers that are ruled by panic and hysteria.
Less than one percent die from this. Lots more die in car accidents, doctor's mistakes, over doses, etc. If you are scared of dying, then stay in a hermetically sealed space and take lots of vitamins. Also do not allow any visitors.
Yes, I have lost two close persons supposedly "with" COVID, but I have also known over a dozen that have survived the illness, shrugging it off in a matter of a couple days. So, I am realistic that there really is a virus. I also know that my chances of becoming infected is very low and even lower that I would perish from it.
Don't like it? That's everyone's prerogative, right?

5 % of CV positive CASES in the over 65 age group DO die from CV. Many others are long haul types. Many others have near-death experiences and LARGE hospital bills. Now we are up to about 15 % of cases with problems that NOBODY would WANT to have. Right? That would be right only for someone that lived by themselves on the MOON. So, NO, not right!

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by richs631

FYI. We are not Covid deniers. What we deny is that Covid is the bubonic plague and that everyone who gets it dies and it was worth shutting down the world economy and the only way to vote was mail in voting. Covid is a flu.

Honesty, if you think Covid is a flu, you ARE a Covid denier. That is all.

[Gulfcoast]

So this is the explanation that I have heard for the drop in Covid cases....

President Biden rejoined the WHO. The WHO now recommends 2 positive tests plus symptoms to be counted as a positive result. Naturally, when you change the criteria like that, the cases would tend to magically drop.

Oh, and there have been practically no flu cases this year. That seems pretty amazing, doesn't it?

I feel like we are living in Lalaland.