Originally Posted by Mikee1 (Post 1898084)

The original stated purpose of masks was to prevent you from spreading it to others. It was said it would stop spittal, etc from being dispersed into the air. Now folks are saying to wear masks to keep from catching it. A N95 mask has exhaust vent ports built in so it does nothing to stop you from dispersing droplets into the air. The reality the germ is smaller than and filtering provided by any mask. So by who and why did the mask wearing benefit change?

Originally Posted by dhdallas (Post 1897910)

The only protection that really works is a N95 facemask that has been properly fitted, discarded & replaced routinely. All of your homemade cloth & surgical masks are of little to no help and can be potentially harmful. Once you wear a mask, that mask is now considered contaminated and should be discarded or disinfected with a bleach solution. If you touch the outside of the mask and touch your face, you just gave a contaminant a way inside your body. In reusing a mask you are breathing through a petri dish of bacteria and worse being fed with your warm humid exhalations.

Now that many people have been vaccinated or have natural immunity the "mask mandates for all" needs to be changed. Just those who have not been vaccinated or do not have natural immunity should wear a mask but one that works, as in a N95.

People who have been vaccinated or have natural immunity from having COVID (like I have) do not need to be masked; it would be pointless.

- David H. Dallas RN, EMT-P (retired)
I am a retired RN, EMT-Paramedic with an ASN degree graduating summa cum laude, a member of 2 national honor societies, with past American Heart Association certifications in Advanced Cardiac Life Support and Pediatric Advanced Life Support.

Getting erroneous & questionable information from the government and putting together homemade charts is not helping anyone but continuing to feed the hysteria & fear. I worked during the onset of AIDS/HIV and H1N1 and never have I seen such a level of misinformation and a bombardment of articles that focus on rare atypical cases.

Originally Posted by Mikee1 (Post 1898084)

The original stated purpose of masks was to prevent you from spreading it to others. It was said it would stop spittal, etc from being dispersed into the air. Now folks are saying to wear masks to keep from catching it. A N95 mask has exhaust vent ports built in so it does nothing to stop you from dispersing droplets into the air. The reality the germ is smaller than and filtering provided by any mask. So by who and why did the mask wearing benefit change?

Originally Posted by dhdallas (Post 1897910)

The only protection that really works is a N95 facemask that has been properly fitted, discarded & replaced routinely. All of your homemade cloth & surgical masks are of little to no help and can be potentially harmful. Once you wear a mask, that mask is now considered contaminated and should be discarded or disinfected with a bleach solution. If you touch the outside of the mask and touch your face, you just gave a contaminant a way inside your body. In reusing a mask you are breathing through a petri dish of bacteria and worse being fed with your warm humid exhalations.

Now that many people have been vaccinated or have natural immunity the "mask mandates for all" needs to be changed. Just those who have not been vaccinated or do not have natural immunity should wear a mask but one that works, as in a N95.

People who have been vaccinated or have natural immunity from having COVID (like I have) do not need to be masked; it would be pointless.

- David H. Dallas RN, EMT-P (retired)
I am a retired RN, EMT-Paramedic with an ASN degree graduating summa cum laude, a member of 2 national honor societies, with past American Heart Association certifications in Advanced Cardiac Life Support and Pediatric Advanced Life Support.

Getting erroneous & questionable information from the government and putting together homemade charts is not helping anyone but continuing to feed the hysteria & fear. I worked during the onset of AIDS/HIV and H1N1 and never have I seen such a level of misinformation and a bombardment of articles that focus on rare atypical cases.

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna (Post 1898101)

Please, please, just wear one for the rest of us. If we’d all just be a community thinking of one another, we’d have the original virus and probably the variants beaten by the Fourth of July. Is that too much to ask, neighbor?

Originally Posted by oneclickplus (Post 1898117)

Well, I'm pretty much a "denier". I'm not saying it doesn't exist. But, Covid is nothing worse than the seasonal flu including the fact that the flu strains change all the time. I don't recall mandates that people wear masks during flu season or kids wear masks at school. People got the flu vaccine as a personal decision and no one shamed them as if it was a community decision. This is all about population control and massive mail-in ballot fraud. Furthermore, I'm also an "anti-vaxxer". If you see fit to put a mRNA (messenger RNA) gene therapy (not a vaccine) into your arm, who am I to say that you can't risk your health and life doing that. Just don't try to tell other that they have to do it.

If there is some political mandate that people should get the mRNA shot for the protection of others, then all abortions should stop immediately for the safety of the child.

Ooops, was that policital? Seems more religious to me.

Originally Posted by fastboat (Post 1898120)

I have seen CDC numbers in December that corroborate this.

Before you review the Food For Thought ... I found these number interesting. As reported by the CDC ... Here are the US deaths by year and the change from the previous year

Year 2017 2,818,503 Americans died

Year 2018: 2,839,205 deaths (20,702 more than the previous year 2017)

Year 2019: 2,855,000 deaths (16,300 more than the previous year 2018)

The year of the pandemic ...

Year 2020: 2,913,144 deaths (57,641 more than the previous year 2019)

BUT WAIT: There were zero deaths from Covid-19 during 2018, and 2019 and the jump from 2019 was only 57,641 ???

I've been told that Covid is responsible for now 400,000 + deaths. Shouldn't the 2020 number be a hell of a lot higher?

So the question becomes: How many people died OF COVID and How many died (of other causes) WITH Covid?:boom:

Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1898159)

Get the vaccination or don't get it. Wear a mask or don't wear a mask. Go out or cower at home. Your decision, but don't presume to demand that others conform to whatever standard you insist is better than the norm. You all don't seem to get it. I don't modify my lifestyle for your convenience. I had no intention of getting the vaccination until I did some research on it. I decided that it was not dangerous and since I was helping my spouse secure her shots, I found it convenient to go ahead and get mine at the same time. I do not believe that I would have ever become infected, and figured that even if I did, I would shrug it off in a few days. I wear a mask when there is a sign on the door of the business. Once I get my second shot, I will get the flimsiest and thin mask I can find and carry it if I am out shopping in case it is required to enter a business. Many of you demanded that other folks "protect" you by wearing a mask. Now, there will be no reason to think that I am going to infect you because I won't have the virus. I don't have it now, and haven't had it. But, most of you run amok in hysteria thinking that everyone around you is infected.
So, do what you wish to protect yourselves because it is not anyone else's responsibility to take care of you.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1898246)

USA is becoming United Selfish of America.

Originally Posted by cheweycat (Post 1898183)

Thank you to the prior administration for the misinformation and disinformation.Hopefully we have a new day with our new governmental administration.

Originally Posted by WinnieHa (Post 1898251)

So many seem to think their expertise is superior to that of the CDC. It is still a CDC recommendation to wear a mask. The rest of the world thinks we’ve lost our minds on this. I continue to have absolutely no problem wearing a mask and find this discussion so tiresome.... but ironically not tiresome enough not to respond. 😆

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1898270)

True about the rest of the world. They laugh and pity us. We became # 1 in the world for CV by stupidity and selfishness - a good lesson in life.

Originally Posted by merrymini (Post 1898068)

Unrelenting fear mongering from the media is driving this.
I would not listen to the “medical experts” because they do not know which end is up.
Long term effects can happen with a vaccine which was developed 10 minutes ago.
I have know many people, of many ages, who got the virus and fully recovered. It is a flu.
It is good to take precautions.
It is most dangerous for people who or ill or debilitated, if you are not one of these, you should be okay.
Hope you leave lots of money to your grandchildren to pay the debt.
And I am really, really sick of hearing about it.