Originally Posted by gdennis317 (Post 1986942)

Israel study mentioned was a small sample group. Recent studies here in the US say Opposite is true. Kentucky case study as an example.

Key point in all of this is that those in the Hospital here in the US are predominantly the Unvaccinated, and those who die are overwhelmingly the unvaccinated.

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1986966)

And be sure to mention you received this advice from someone onToTV, that should carry some weight.

Originally Posted by OETTING (Post 1986937)

Although antibodies from natural infection may provide some protection against the virus, evidence shows nothing protects against COVID-19 better than vaccines.
People who have recovered from COVID-19 should get vaccinated to reduce their risk of reinfection, which will prevent transmission and suppress the opportunity for more variants – like the highly contagious delta – to emerge.
“Natural infection will cause your immune system to make many types of antibodies and immune response to all parts of the virus, but only a small fraction of that response is actually protective,” said Nicole Iovine, chief hospital epidemiologist at University of Florida Health in Gainesville. “When you get the vaccine, the entire response is targeted to the virus's spike protein.”

Originally Posted by NoMoSno (Post 1986909)

The party was in an enclosed tent. No one wore masks.
CDC reccomends that vaccinated wear masks in enclosed areas.

Originally Posted by lkagele (Post 1986916)

I really don't think that's correct. At first the thought was these were droplets that traveled no more than 6'. Thus the social distancing recommendations.

Later, however, studies showed aerosol particles stayed in the air for much longer periods of time and distance and were also responsible for transmission of the disease.

There's also evidence the droplets and aerosols can enter the body through eye cavities. I just don't see masks as being effective enough to warrant anything other than attempts to control the populace.

Originally Posted by S=kBlogW (Post 1986924)

I'm sorry but you are completely wrong. 85% of covid virus emissions from an infected individual are tiny aerosols, only 15% are encased in globules.. They are 5000 times smaller than the holes in a cloth mask. You can easily breath these all the way down to your lungs where they begin to work their magic.

Originally Posted by S=kBlogW (Post 1986924)

I'm sorry but you are completely wrong. 85% of covid virus emissions from an infected individual are tiny aerosols, only 15% are encased in globules.. They are 5000 times smaller than the holes in a cloth mask. You can easily breath these all the way down to your lungs where they begin to work their magic.

Originally Posted by flsteve (Post 1986877)

Wait.... I thought that vaccinated people can STILL spread the virus? If so, it makes sense to me that both vaccinated AND un-vaccinated people can "infect those around you with a lethal virus". Right? However, only THE VACCINATED people can be criticized for having the "right" to "infect those around you with a lethal virus", since vaccinated people can still get it again, yet likely not in a lethal manner. Only un-vaccinated people can "infect those around you with a lethal virus."

Therefore, the Typhoid Mary comparison point is completely moot.

Critical thinking is a bitch! :)

Originally Posted by OETTING (Post 1986937)

Although antibodies from natural infection may provide some protection against the virus, evidence shows nothing protects against COVID-19 better than vaccines.
People who have recovered from COVID-19 should get vaccinated to reduce their risk of reinfection, which will prevent transmission and suppress the opportunity for more variants – like the highly contagious delta – to emerge.
“Natural infection will cause your immune system to make many types of antibodies and immune response to all parts of the virus, but only a small fraction of that response is actually protective,” said Nicole Iovine, chief hospital epidemiologist at University of Florida Health in Gainesville. “When you get the vaccine, the entire response is targeted to the virus's spike protein.”

Originally Posted by S=kBlogW (Post 1986964)

Ask your Doctor to give you an antibody test, when it shows you have antibodies have Doctor write you a letter saying you are just as protected as the vaccinated. If he won't do this, get a smarter Doctor.

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1986986)

I found a video using a high speed camera. After viewing this video, there is no way you can tell me that masks do not contain aerosols. The difference between no mask and the three examples of masking is HUGE!

High speed camera captures how different types of face masks work - YouTube

Originally Posted by S=kBlogW (Post 1986993)

LOL Again with the Youtube videos. You do realize that aerosol virus particles are microscopic and can not be seen with a high speed camera? What you are seeing is water globules and vapor.

For the love of God, please read some actual science and forget about what you might learn on Youtube or Facebook.

To better understand how airborne SARS-CoV-2 transmission occurs, we sought to determine viral loads within coarse (>5μm) and fine (≤5μm) respiratory aerosols produced when breathing, talking, and singing.

Overall, fine aerosols constituted 85% of the viral load detected in our study

This is a study using actual covid infected patients and a very precise instrument called a G-II exhaled breath collector which can collect and measure particles down to 1um in size. 1um is 1 millionth of a meter or 1/25,400th of an inch. You need an electron microscope to see them, not a high speed camera

Viral Load of SARS-CoV-2 in Respiratory Aerosols Emitted by COVID-19 Patients while Breathing, Talking, and Singing - PubMed

Originally Posted by S=kBlogW (Post 1986964)

Ask your Doctor to give you an antibody test, when it shows you have antibodies have Doctor write you a letter saying you are just as protected as the vaccinated. If he won't do this, get a smarter Doctor.

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1987005)

Isn't that respiratory aerosols I see when I "see my breath" in a cold climate such as when I lived up north? Aren't those respiratory aerosols that can be seen with the naked eye? Contained in that visible vapor of aerosols can be millions of those Covid virus particles of an infected person. No?

Originally Posted by Robin Farris (Post 1987018)

I have been retesting for antibodies every 3 months so far I still test positive for antibodies. I keep a copy of the lab report with me to show if asked. But some people still think I should get a shot. To be perfectly honest I know 3 different people who got the shot and passed shortly after. And one who spent some time in the ICU due to a bad reaction. Now THAT scares me. I have also read up about the number of deaths after getting the shot and yes on the CDC website. And that scares me so…I’m going to keep my antibodies checked and let my body do what Science intended. Again thank you.