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Old 06-13-2021, 08:21 AM
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Just like Marxism, CRT divides populations. Marxism did it by class. CRT does it by race. Both are used as tools to make ruling the overall populace easier. I'm certainly not a great historian but I doubt very much Martin Luther King would have been an advocate of CRT.

IMO, the US is the least racist country in the world. Have we been perfect? Certainly not. Have we learned from our mistakes and tried to improve our society based on those mistakes? Absolutely. Opportunities for everyone in the country are abundant. The inability of being able to take advantage of those opportunities are primarily the fault of local leadership including the failure of the education system.

Riddle me this batman. If the US is such a racist and oppressed society, why is it that immigrants from all over the world want to come here yet only a microscopic number of people want to leave?
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Old 06-13-2021, 08:27 AM
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"Critical race theory is an academic discipline, formulated in the 1990s and built on the intellectual framework of identity-based Marxism. Relegated for many years to universities and obscure academic journals, it has increasingly become the default ideology in our public institutions over the past decade. It has been injected into government agencies, public school systems, teacher training programs and corporate human resources departments in the form of diversity training programs, human resources modules, public policy frameworks and school curricula.

Its supporters deploy a series of euphemisms to describe critical race theory, including “equity,” “social justice,” “diversity and inclusion” and “culturally responsive teaching.”
Critical race theorists, masters of language construction, realize that “neo-Marxism” would be a hard sell. Equity, on the other hand, sounds nonthreatening and is easily confused with the American principle of equality. But the distinction is vast and important. Indeed, critical race theorists explicitly reject equality — the principle proclaimed in the Declaration of Independence, defended in the Civil War and codified into law with the 14th and 15th Amendments, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. To them, equality represents “mere nondiscrimination” and provides “camouflage” for white supremacy, patriarchy and oppression.

In contrast to equality, equity as defined and promoted by critical race theorists is little more than reformulated Marxism. In the name of equity, UCLA law professor and critical race theorist Cheryl Harris has proposed suspending private property rights, seizing land and wealth and redistributing them along racial lines.

Critical race guru Ibram X. Kendi, who directs the Center for Antiracist Research at Boston University, has proposed the creation of a federal Department of Antiracism. This department would be independent of (i.e., unaccountable to) the elected branches of government and would have the power to nullify, veto or abolish any law at any level of government and curtail the speech of political leaders and others deemed insufficiently “antiracist.”

One practical result of the creation of such a department would be the overthrow of capitalism, since, according to Kendi, “in order to truly be antiracist, you also have to truly be anticapitalist.”

In other words, identity is the means; Marxism is the end."

From: What critical race theory is really about
I totally agree you are right on the point! The more we refere to each other as belonging to one type of group or another the more we play into the hands of the Marxis. We should we call ourselves Americans first and stop this attempt to divide us.
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If you simplify CRT you get to your conclusions. IF you look more closely you will that those pushing it are trying to bring a conversation into society ... a conversation about how we look at people of a different race. Have they pushed it too far ... perhaps. Yet the conversation has to happen one way or another.

Perhaps we can ignore the concept of white privilege ... meaning that perhaps we can put it off further .... yet even the tax laws were designed for our benefit ... take capital gains ... in 1921 Southern Democrats got together with that one and reduced taxes for people with money ... the privilege of already having money allows us to pay lower taxes .... creates more of an advantage for the divide of wealth .... transfers economic growth upward to the most wealthy. Too complicated? Sorry.

Point = CRT as a concept ... trying to bring racism into a conversation .... perhaps its gone too far .... but the conversation taking place has to be embraced. Our history is our history and rewriting it makes no sense.
How do you figure that the rich pay less taxes? Any taxes paid is more than half the country is paying and that is a fact. To be fair, we would either have to initiate a flat tax where EVERYONE (including the low earners) pays a percentage of earnings, OR we would have to have a federal sales tax. Then I wonder how some would feel about the rich paying sales taxes. A person wishing to save their money would not purchase. A rich person not wishing to pay taxes on a Rolls would purchase a Ford.
Time to quit making excuses and face reality. The rich are paying for the running of this country and should not be penalized to the point of leaving it. The rich are patriots. Yep, I said it because I am not biased against those that are my betters in wealth. It is the rich that employ. The gov cannot spend it's own money because it makes no money. It is the rich that pay the most taxes that finance the gov employees. If you want equity, then EVERYONE should pay the same. Is that what you really want?
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Old 06-13-2021, 08:31 AM
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Nikki Haley: America isn’t perfect. But the principles at the heart of America are.

Recorded history goes back more than 10 thousand years and the vast majority of civilizations could be characterized as the few exploiting the many. Often times it would involved great suffering and even torture. But the only history that the neo Marxists are obsessed about is ours. That is because they despise our Constitution which puts severe limits on government power and enshrines individual liberties. So they have concocted this Orwellian theory in attempt to radically transform our nation to the detriment of all with the exception of the few at the top.

And truth be told they don't care any more about the suffering of the poor than did Stalin or Mao. That is why you will never see them advocate for real reforms that provide school choice and incentivize businesses to relocate to depressed inner cities. You can not exploit people who have an optimistic outlook for the future.
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People should understand their history, then conquer it by moving forward. Clinging to past mistakes our ancestors made is futile. The best time of your life—- is now. So get on with it.
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Old 06-13-2021, 08:34 AM
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You ask if the black vote is being suppressed today?

Take a look at the restrictions in the Georgia law .... they closed two out of three polling places in the black areas of the inner city. Duh. "Restrict" is a word with a meaning. Closing polling stations is a "restriction". Pretty simple.
In Georgia, like Florida you have weeks of early voting opportunities. I came from Pennsylvania where you voted on Election Day. I often waited in line for over an hour to vote…
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Old 06-13-2021, 08:38 AM
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Obviously so many got a definition of CRT from elected officials and they wrapped it with words like Marxist, which should not be used because their is no application.


I suggest, if you really care about truth, that you peruse this from the American Bar.

Not only a great learning tool, but actually dates the beginning of this attack on a 40 year old concept that has no reason to be attacked.

Turn off YouTube, certain cable channels and find out how this attack is contrary to what you want.


Folks who call this P are correct.....been made that way since just recently. Never was, until this brand new spin looked like a great issue for 2022. Not an overstated fact.....it's true.

A Lesson on Critical Race Theory
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Old 06-13-2021, 08:38 AM
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From what I've read, critical race theory is really two ideas.

The first is that the very idea of race is not based on biology or science of any kind. There's nothing about the physiology of humans that neatly divides humanity into categories like "white", "black", "Asian", etc. The attempts to divide people into these categories were done societally, not scientifically.

The second idea is that American history shows us that governments put in place in the Americas by European settlers were and continue to be racist in nature. To steal land away from the indigenous people, governments put into place laws that made those peoples have fewer or any rights and encouraged the suppression of those peoples. Prior to the industrial revolution, manual labor was vital and slave labor was cheaper than paid labor, so laws were put into place to allow kidnapping, torturing and enslaving peoples from other countries, especially Africa. Laws were put into place over time to exclude Asians. During World War II, people of Japanese heritage were robbed of their properties and imprisoned while people of German heritage were not. Even after the emancipation of enslaved people in America, voting rights were suppressed and continue to be so to this day.

Critical race theory doesn't paint an artificially pretty picture of American history or governance. If you read history deeply, however, it is probably a more accurate picture. Does this divide people? Possibly. Some people are averse to learning unpleasant truths. I've always thought that true patriotism wasn't blindly loving ones country, right or wrong but rather wanting the best for and out of ones country, realizing when ones country was wrong or doing wrong and changing it for the better even if that involves discomfort and hard work.

America isn't perfect and never was. It gets better over time, despite occasional backsliding. I hope it continues to get better and better in the future. Pretending we are and have been perfect won't help us get there.

But that's just my opinion.
Interesting view. I think everyone knows that our country is not perfect and never has been. I was taught in school about America's history, being raised in Texas it was mandatory to study Texas history along with American and world history. I learned about the good and the bad. We are all aware that the Europeans took land from the American Indians and we were taught back then not to hate our country but to acknowledge it's history, the good with the bad and to try to change the bad and work for the good. We were taught to be patriotic and to pray. The problem now is our kids aren't being taught the good, just the bad. They are not being told the truth about communism, marxism or socialism or that since the beginning of time there have been people who were enslaved and mistreated. America didn't invent slavery. They aren't being taught about the world wars or the holocaust because it "upsets" them. They are being indoctrinated to despise their country. If a student is white, they are taught to be ashamed of their race and white children are being traumatized by this! Suddenly if you are white, you are inherently racist and should be ashamed of your family and your ancestors. It's just wrong. Nothing will change the fact that there are people of different races, people who come from different parts of the world and who have different cultures and different appearances. Everyone knows the difference when they see an Asian, a white person or a black person. I think that every adult realizes we are all the same on the inside, so this anatomy and physiology lesson you have given is like preaching to the choir. Just my opinion
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In Georgia, like Florida you have weeks of early voting opportunities. I came from Pennsylvania where you voted on Election Day. I often waited in line for over an hour to vote…
I did the same because they did not have the ability to do it any other way. BUT, today, safe, secure methods exist and are use
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Divide and conquer-pure and simple. White supremacists vs. the oppressed. Kids don’t judge other kids by the color of their skin unless they’re taught that. Marxism in the making.
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Old 06-13-2021, 08:48 AM
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Looks very complicated. Teachers should be able to decide which students could handle this. Beltway bigwigs should not determine it. Leave it to the educators.

Todays Woke teachers Should NOT be allowed to make that decision. Leave that decision to the parents. It seems to me the people pushing the CRT are the real racists. When your teachings degrade a person by their color is in fact racist.
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Perhaps you could enlighten us on the NON factual information ?
non factual information as well as deceit = propaganda
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It is forbidden from being taught in public schools in Florida.
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Obviously so many got a definition of CRT from elected officials and they wrapped it with words like Marxist, which should not be used because their is no application.


I suggest, if you really care about truth, that you peruse this from the American Bar.

Not only a great learning tool, but actually dates the beginning of this attack on a 40 year old concept that has no reason to be attacked.

Turn off YouTube, certain cable channels and find out how this attack is contrary to what you want.


Folks who call this P are correct.....been made that way since just recently. Never was, until this brand new spin looked like a great issue for 2022. Not an overstated fact.....it's true.

A Lesson on Critical Race Theory
Who cares? Seriously, other than politics what good does it do to dwell on this ridiculous CRT? I say again, what GOOD does it do? I can tell you how much damage it will do. Our country is progressing very well without trying to relive the past. Look forward and realize that we have the best country in the world, IMO. Perfect? No. Great? YES!
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CRT - Critical RACE Theory - is racism against white people, particularly white men and white boys
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