[Aloha1]

Originally Posted by Bucco

It is difficult to believe that so many folks who loudly profess anti-government thoughts are simply fine with allowing elected people to decide to eliminate real history because they don't like it.

Kids deserve truth, not lies.

That is EXACTLY the point we've been arguing about. The elimination of true history by substituting falsehoods.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan

I would absolutely provide evidence of thousand of voters denied the opportunity to vote as soon as you provide evidence of massive voter fraud - enough to change the outcome of ANY presidential election.

My point was anything that makes it harder for legal voters to vote is bad, and anything that makes it easier for legal voters to vote is good.

I will be around if you can show the need for the laws to protect our votes.

Key word "LEGAL" voters. I have seen absolutely NO laws being voted upon that has made "legal" voting harder or even limited legal voting. Requiring confirmation of ID is NOT making it harder for legal voters to vote, period. No one has a problem providing ID--- NO one. For those suggesting that blacks are "disenfranchised" I remind them that they are suggesting that blacks are too ignorant or stupid to obtain an ID. If that is what they are suggesting, then I am accusing them of being racist. There is absolutely no reason that everyone in the U.S. cannot easily obtain an ID.
As far as GA's new laws, I suggest that folks read them, not listen to liberal pundits pervert the facts. Changing the voting times, merely changed the possible limits, which opened up the possible times to longer periods to vote, not make them shorter.
The food and water issue is also bogus.
Read it before spouting false propaganda.

[Irishmen]

Originally Posted by Aloha1

That is EXACTLY the point we've been arguing about. The elimination of true history by substituting falsehoods.

China has no more viable land to cultivate. The waters and rivers are trashed. They want our land and resources openly. The communist here in America will call you CIA conspiracy theorist for stating such. The exact same color revolution happened to Russia in 1917 ending in millions being exterminated. Listen to language of the left. They are useful idiots for the CCP. They are coming for you....

[Byte1]

CRT is currently being taught in over 200 colleges and universities. As for public schools that children are currently attending, there has been many reported incidences where parents have complained about CRT related material being sent home with children from public schools. This is not something that the scary FOX boogieman tells us. This is news that you can get on the internet anywhere EXCEPT possibly liberal biased media. Although, I do not see how anyone can be brainwashed enough to believe that everything that comes from FOX is false information. If you do not believe some news item, you can always refute it by doing a fact check.

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by Byte1

Although, I do not see how anyone can be brainwashed enough to believe that everything that comes from FOX is false information. If you do not believe some news item, you can always refute it by doing a fact check.

Fox News is the only news source I regularly read/view. I mostly read headlines and shake my head at other sources.

However, the fact that I read Fox does not mean I accept everything they say, they too spin and create a lot of click-bait articles.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Sorry, I am NOT on Facebook to protest Mark Zuckerdorkhead elitist scumbag (that the government should break up)!

I think this is the only time I have ever agreed with you.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Aloha1

That is EXACTLY the point we've been arguing about. The elimination of true history by substituting falsehoods.

You do understand that elimination of CRT as you support, means exactly what you oppose here.

It allows elects officials to decide what NOT to teach.

IF CRT is allowed the kid get the benefit of the truth

This post of your is supporting the censoring of our country's history to satisfy an agenda. Is this what you think our country stands for ?

Add this to all the other conspiracies and untruths and what do you have......

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Byte1

CRT is currently being taught in over 200 colleges and universities. As for public schools that children are currently attending, there has been many reported incidences where parents have complained about CRT related material being sent home with children from public schools. This is not something that the scary FOX boogieman tells us. This is news that you can get on the internet anywhere EXCEPT possibly liberal biased media. Although, I do not see how anyone can be brainwashed enough to believe that everything that comes from FOX is false information. If you do not believe some news item, you can always refute it by doing a fact check.

Could you kindly share one of "there has been many reported incidences where parents have complained about CRT related material being sent home with children from public schools."

CRT is not taught.....no lesson plan......nothing and has been around for 40 years.

Not much of an issue until 2020, when the leader of a party decided to toss it around sans facts and with no background, and suddenly it is a big topic.

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by Byte1

Key word "LEGAL" voters. I have seen absolutely NO laws being voted upon that has made "legal" voting harder or even limited legal voting. Requiring confirmation of ID is NOT making it harder for legal voters to vote, period. No one has a problem providing ID--- NO one. For those suggesting that blacks are "disenfranchised" I remind them that they are suggesting that blacks are too ignorant or stupid to obtain an ID. If that is what they are suggesting, then I am accusing them of being racist. There is absolutely no reason that everyone in the U.S. cannot easily obtain an ID.
As far as GA's new laws, I suggest that folks read them, not listen to liberal pundits pervert the facts. Changing the voting times, merely changed the possible limits, which opened up the possible times to longer periods to vote, not make them shorter.
The food and water issue is also bogus.
Read it before spouting false propaganda.

Are you saying I lied?

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan

Are you saying I lied?

A lie is a false statement with the intent to deceive. Did you lie, or are you just mistaken?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Because the USA is a better place to live, has better opportunities, has better healthcare, has better chance to survive through fascism (since that's what they are living with in their home countries right now)?

If you want people to stop trying to come here, then you need to make this an unattractive destination point. And at that point, why would YOU want to live here?

Also you could say the same thing about Florida. Imagine all the people who were born and raised in Florida, saying the exact same thing about the "immigrants" from other parts of this country? Imagine - all the people who were born and raised in Sumter County, saying the exact same thing about the Villages and all of us who have MIGRATED to Florida in our retirement.

Be grateful they didn't build a wall to keep you out.

You are taking a Progressive view on immigration, the "standard" view. I am a Progressive about ALL other issues. And, actually, maybe (?) my view is ssssooooo much more progressive that it could seem backward or conservative. Here is MY thinking......MOST people judge a country's value by GNP, which is good for certain things like power and economic growth. Most average people JUDGE their lives by how GOOD they feel about various elements. I would call that more like "Quality of Life" - which can be looked up on lists for comparisons between countries. I would call Quality of Life to be a better measuring stick than GDP. And I would call thinking in those terms of Quality of Life to be PROGRESSIVE and GDP to be more conservative.

I contend that after about 275 Million people in the US, that each NEW arrival has caused the Quality of Life to decrease. People talk about the "good old" days of the 1950s and 60s and in MANY ways, they are RIGHT. The ratio of natural resources to population was in a BETTER balance then than today. I gave my analogy about a home having more and more dogs - causing Quality of Life to go from good to bad. Try putting more and more goldfish in ONE bowl and SEE the same idea. I understand that your interpretation is the currently prevailing one and mine is the CURRENT outlier. I, also, believe that most people have NEVER really thought about it. It is EASY to believe that the status quo is the RIGHT and best solution. And it would, also, be COSERVATIVE. I am questioning the status quo, therefore, I am PROGRESSIVE.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

When the recurrent motive a poster has is to find something to be angry about, his/her logic is lost on me.

I feel and see and recognize someone wanting a fight. I get to the point I don't care much why they are angry.

There are some things between humans that are just based on innate instinct. We know when someone is out to harm and someone is afraid and someone is truly thinking and absorbing and allowing themselves to process knowledge.

Every one of us in this dangerous world should be profiling if they do not do so. It isn't wrong to separate yourself from danger and dangerous situations and dangerous people.

That also means that one needs to see the wolf in sheep's clothing.

And it also means to find a group that is a place that you can comfortably be yourself.

Times have changed. Our grandkids cannot safely walk a long way to school like we used to.

We are now told black is white and we must learn new words and new theories so we can hate people for no GOOD reason.

A person CAN get COMFORTABLE by sedating themselves against life and DIFFERENT ideas. Different is NOT angry. Others MAY(?) find it that way. Diversity is thought-provoking. I have ZERO problem with diversity. It is outgrowing your resources that I am speaking about!

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan

Fox News is the only news source I regularly read/view. I mostly read headlines and shake my head at other sources.

However, the fact that I read Fox does not mean I accept everything they say, they too spin and create a lot of click-bait articles.

Sorry, this does not make sense in anyway. Where do you get your reality ?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by tvbound

The old lizard brain that says "scary big black man," has become more and more dominant in a lot of scared people. When all else is stripped away, it mostly boils down to this.

That problem was ALMOST solved in the 60s with Civil Rights Legislation. It JUST did NOT go far enough!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

Most of the people I know are NOT bigoted. I do not care to associate with those who are bigoted.

Bigoted like Tucker?