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Bucco 06-13-2021 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1958936)
Who cares? Seriously, other than politics what good does it do to dwell on this ridiculous CRT? I say again, what GOOD does it do? I can tell you how much damage it will do. Our country is progressing very well without trying to relive the past. Look forward and realize that we have the best country in the world, IMO. Perfect? No. Great? YES!
"Who cares" pretty much says it all.

I care that elected officials do not determine our teaching of history.

I care that one group can decide on a whim, because it fits their message, to try and hi jack the schools with such odd lies.

I care that for P reasons, the word Marxist is now added to the discussion to totally and completely mislead.

I care that kids know truth and respect it.

Joe C. 06-13-2021 10:39 AM
CRT and WOKE are working hand in hand.
They teach "white privilege" and also teach that if you are white, that you automatically are racist because of your birth.

Those idiots should be eliminated.

Byte1 06-13-2021 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ithos (Post 1958996)
Can someone show me where teaching people to judge others by the color of their skin, disparage our founding principals and waging a campaign to demonize police has improved the conditions of the inner city?

How did it work out in Minneapolis, Baltimore or Ferguson?

How about we try some other ideas like pressuring Nike and the like to build their factories in cities with chronic unemployment where kids are spending everything they have for their shoes.

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Inadvertently or not, you have made an excellent point. What are the values of those kids that spend everything they have for a pair of "special" shoes? And maybe(?) the reason that Nike and the "like" do not build in those "cities" as well as other businesses not opening in those "cities" is because they fear being burnt down, broken into and vandalized, etc. Do you know of any of those inner cities that have had businesses with success in the inner cities? Does that sound racist on the surface? Notice that I did not mention any race. And I am just using your supposition, when using Nike ( a favorite of those kids in the inner city) when I figure you are speaking of predominately cities with a black majority in the inner city. Maybe Detroit should reopen their auto plants? Doubt if that will ever happen. Perhaps some excuse this as part of CRT? I just call it cause and effect.

rfc171 06-13-2021 11:11 AM
You are as learned man Jerry!

Bucco 06-13-2021 11:18 AM
To be clear...relative to Florida....

CRT IS NOT....REPEAT NOT TAUGHT IN THE SCHOOLS.

Read the law it is specific and pretty much says....

Instruction must be factual and also false

jimjamuser 06-13-2021 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1958355)
Curious why this is being pushed in our schools? This seems like it is designed to divide our country.
The country IS ALREADY divided as most people are aware. And it is NOT being "PUSHED"! It is an attempt at TRUTHTELLING to correctly and objectively present an unvarnished version of History to the young, next generation. Why are SO MANY states such COWARDS that a little truthtelling makes them anxious to pass laws quickly before the TRUTH leaks out. Early European settlers accepted gifts of NEEDED food and called it Thanksgiving and then proceeded to extinguish NATIVE American civilization. That was whitewashed from History - and the Tulsa massacre - and who knows what more History is committed and LIED about? When you PREVENT the truth from being told - you replace it with PROPAGANDA - and enough propaganda and America WILL find itself in a DICTATORSHIP. I would believe that those living in states that have passed laws against CRT (or suppress the TRUTH laws) are NOW as we speak REALLY in said dictatorship.

Marykschulz 06-13-2021 11:18 AM
Critical Race Theory is designed to teach students that not all of America’s past is “pretty”. Germany mandates that their students learn about the Holocaust, ugly parts and all. Why do Americans want to hide the ugly parts of our past?

rfc171 06-13-2021 11:21 AM
You are a learned man Jerry!

Topspinmo 06-13-2021 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1958984)
Were you aware at all of what was going on with the pandemic ?

Were you aware of legislatures mandated how votes are counted ?

Any of this sounds familiar at all ?

Your premise, direct from the bastion of truth was dispelled and threw from our courts with extreme prejudice.

No, the didn’t want to hear it, they got what they intended and that was end of it. There has to be cutoff for mailing voting when you have months to vote. You can’t be bring in truck loads of votes during Election Day especially after poles close and the count known. But it’s ok as long as 99% voted with you’re party right.

Topspinmo 06-13-2021 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1958991)
Well said..teach the truth and do not allow elected officials to run the curriculum

Yes, the truth as my party drilled it.

Bucco 06-13-2021 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1959031)
Yes, the truth as my party drilled it.
First, because you brought it up. I am an Independent, after not only being registered in the party you seem to espouse for over 60 years, but being a paid employee. I changed, but not to what you refer.

Second, CRT is something BOTH groups wanted. It is not, in any way a subject to be taught. The changes that are being made and solicited are now a party movement to erase history as it happened. Really you should read the law. Full of platitudes, nothing of substance and was only even brought up to have it worked out as a party issue, adding a few words like Marxism to really generate those who are not really concerned with the country, but the party.

So, you have completely and totally flipped the truth.

Erasing history to serve a party is a very scary thing to endorse.

After 40 years of no problem in the schools, you now suggest that you want every party change in legislature to generate a new history. That CRT was done to keep this from happening.

But, again....you don't care and that is your right

Taltarzac725 06-13-2021 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1959033)
First, because you brought it up. I am an Independent, after not only being registered in the party you seem to espouse for over 60 years, but being a paid employee. I changed, but not to what you refer.

Second, CRT is something BOTH groups wanted. It is not, in any way a subject to be taught. The changes that are being made and solicited are now a party movement to erase history as it happened. Really you should read the law. Full of platitudes, nothing of substance and was only even brought up to have it worked out as a party issue, adding a few words like Marxism to really generate those who are not really concerned with the country, but the party.

So, you have completely and totally flipped the truth.

Erasing history to serve a party is a very scary thing to endorse.

After 40 years of no problem in the schools, you now suggest that you want every party change in legislature to generate a new history. That CRT was done to keep this from happening.

But, again....you don't care and that is your right
I had Native America studies at Earl Wooster HS (Reno, Nevada) in 1975-1976 or thereabouts. We went over a lot of battles in which the Native Americans won and we had three or four field trips to movies that featured the point-of-view of various Native American tribes like Little Big Man, A Man Called Horse and some others. Our teacher did favor the Native Americans but then again many of the kids in the class were Paiutes. This one too probably as it is about a Paiute-- Tell Them Willie Boy Is Here - Wikipedia

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-13-2021 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1958910)
In Georgia, like Florida you have weeks of early voting opportunities. I came from Pennsylvania where you voted on Election Day. I often waited in line for over an hour to vote…
Pennsylvania permits no-excuse absentee voting.
It implemented online voter registration system in 2015.
The voter ID law was rejected in 2014, though anyone who shows up at the polling place for the very first time must present an ID. An ID can be a drivers license or passport, or it could even be a current utility bill. It's basically proof of residency, not proof of identification.
Pennsylvania does NOT require proof of citizenship for voter registration.
All PA voters can cast absentee votes, up to 50 days prior to any special, primary, or general election. They can also request to be provided absentee ballots permanently, for each election.
PA also allows early voting.

So really, there's nothing in your post that is correct. I've never lived in Pennsylvania, and I was able to look up this state laws without any effort at all. One would think that someone making a claim about the state they are actually from, would know the information better.

GrumpyOldMan 06-13-2021 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1959029)
No, the didn’t want to hear it, they got what they intended and that was end of it. There has to be cutoff for mailing voting when you have months to vote. You can’t be bring in truck loads of votes during Election Day especially after poles close and the count known. But it’s ok as long as 99% voted with you’re party right.
None of what you said has been proven, 60 some court cases, and only 1 agreed with any of your assumptions. And hundreds of millions donated to prove the election fraud, and 6 months in and no proof yet forth coming. Keep donating, keep searching, I hope for your sake you actually find some proof. Otherwise, it will be a sad waste of time and a serious detriment to democracy.

jimjamuser 06-13-2021 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1958710)
Although I don't recall ever being taught about the Tulsa massacre, I do remember being taught in school about the slave trade, the threat of white supremacists, the origins of the KKK AND the perceived origins of the KKK (the actual origins and the perceived origins aren't the same). I don't remember being specifically taught that everything we were learning about was called "systemic racism." That term itself does not spark any memory of high school education. However, we did learn about concepts like racial barriers to advancement, general prejudice and how it can affect culture, etc. etc. And this was back in the 1970's.

So I'm not understanding why all of a sudden this is some big deal that anyone is fighting against. If you didn't learn about this stuff when you were in school, then your school was keeping things from you that you now find uncomfortable.

And when I say "you" I'm referring to whoever it applies to. If it doesn't apply to you, then I'm not referring to you.

I just really hope you don't get upset when you learn that Columbus didn't actually discover America.
There ARE reasons why CRT is "suddenly a big deal". Of course, it should NOT be. As you mentioned, it should just normally ease into schools and society as the US moves FORWARD to improve itself by the exorcism of the skeletons left behind in its History. But, we are at a critical time for the US as we are teetering on a knife's edge between Democracy and Dictatorship. This has created a horrendous social TENSION exacerbated by foreign actors (Russia) that have successfully driven wedges between US citizens - Whites vs Black and Browns - agnostics vs Evangelicals - coastal states vs midwestern states - the haves vs the want-to-have - blue collar vs white collar - vaccinated vs unvaccinated.


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