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Bonnevie 06-17-2021 08:36 AM

From: What critical race theory is really about

you should also point out this is an opinion piece in the NY Post if you are going to site it

Bucco 06-17-2021 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1960788)
It is hard to not be bigoted. Even people who think they are not, group people together and see common features. Maybe being bigoted has a plus side?

My lizard brain part sees people trying to make me forget that some enemies will hurt me. The enemies are many hues and many sizes and some appear quite tame.

Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves.

graciegirl 06-17-2021 09:13 AM

Some people simply need to be the center of attention, and will argue black is white in order to keep the spotlight. This can occur for lots of reasons; they might feel ignored in their home life, or feel impotent in other areas of their social or professional relationships.

If a person is unreasonable simply for attention, it isn’t wise to stroke their ego. You will only find yourself drawn into their appeals for attention, and may be supporting their egocentricity by doing so.

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-17-2021 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1960659)
Good, I thought my hypothesis would touch a nerve. Immigration was good up till about 1980 when it became excessive in MY opinion. And you did NOT Address my comment about either quality of life or an OPTIMUM population. Suppose you have 2 dogs in your house. Life is good. Then you get to 5 dogs, and you husband feels that he is spending too much time feeding and going to the Vet. for them. Then, you get to 10 dogs and the neighbors start complaining and you have to defend against a lawsuit and your neighbors no longer talk to you. Life has less quality of life. Then you get 20 dogs and rocks are thrown through your windows. Then you are away and the house is burned down. Now, life is terrible for YOU. I know you see my point. It just sounds anti-progressive. I get that!

The point is, these dogs didn't just appear out of nowhere. They came from someplace that wasn't all that great in the first place. If you fix that place, you won't find all those unwanted dogs in the kennel. People won't be so eager to dump them on you. The dogs need to live SOMEWHERE.

If you want to compare accurately, how about we just leave them in their former homes where they are abused and used for bait in dog fights, or who are abandoned in their yards and left to starve? Why not just do that?

And let's carry that comparison (since you're the one who wants to compare immigrants to unwanted dogs) to people:

How about we just euthanize all the immigrants? Unwanted mongrels, let's just put them all to sleep. Whenever they come to our kennel (the border) we don't even check to see if they're adoptable. We just put them down.

No? You don't want to do that? Why not? That is the comparison you are choosing here. Unwanted dogs = unwanted immigrants.

It's a sick comparison. And I wouldn't do that with a dog, either by the way. Fix the problem at its source. The countries these people are coming FROM are inhospitable to civilized human existence. They have to go SOMEWHERE and they don't have the means to buy an island and create their own peaceful civilization. So they come here.

Will we tell them they have to go back to being abused, murdered, terrorized, sold into slavery, tortured? Or will we take them WHILE we attempt to get their home countries to stop doing this to each other?

You only get to pick one option.

I choose humanity. Even if it's inconvenient.

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-17-2021 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1960661)
Sorry, I am NOT on Facebook to protest Mark Zuckerdorkhead elitist scumbag (that the government should break up)!

Let's talk about whether the US is fundamentally racist.... - YouTube

There it is on youtube for you.

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-17-2021 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1960790)
So very true, I know very few people that are not bigoted. We all have preconceived beliefs that we look for ways to justify or legitimize.

The problems come in when those beliefs result in harm to other people.

There's a difference between prejudice and bigotry.

We all have prejudices. Most of us are not bigots.

tvbound 06-17-2021 10:56 AM

"But, it shows fear of people with a different color skin is greater than the destruction of our democracy."


That single statement, was not only the cause of our nation's bloodiest war, but is what currently drives a significant demographic of our current populace. Those leaders who have been successful in incorporating that philosophy into their lies, conspiracies and propaganda, have shown to be very successful in doing so.

tvbound 06-17-2021 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1960925)

This person's take on it is so dead on, a lot of people will quit watching long before its end.

manaboutown 06-17-2021 01:54 PM

Seems to me the public schools should be concentrating on the 3 Rs, reading, writing and arithmetic. I just checked the data on the Baltimore City schools. Only 21% of their students are proficient in reading; only 16% are proficient in mathematics. To me that is appalling.

Baltimore City Public Schools Test Scores and Academics - Niche

Oh My! In Detroit 18% are proficient in reading and 12% proficient in math.

Detroit Public Schools Community School District - Michigan - Niche

billethkid 06-17-2021 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1961044)
Seems to me the public schools should be concentrating on the 3 Rs, reading, writing and arithmetic. I just checked the data on the Baltimore City schools. Only 21% of their students are proficient in reading; only 16% are proficient in mathematics. To me that is appalling.

Baltimore City Public Schools Test Scores and Academics - Niche

Oh My! In Detroit 18% are proficient in reading and 12% proficient in math.

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Bucco 06-17-2021 02:41 PM

It is difficult to believe that so many folks who loudly profess anti-government thoughts are simply fine with allowing elected people to decide to eliminate real history because they don't like it.

Kids deserve truth, not lies.

stanley 06-17-2021 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1961058)
It is difficult to believe that so many folks who loudly profess anti-government thoughts are simply fine with allowing elected people to decide to eliminate real history because they don't like it.

Kids deserve truth, not lies.

A Government of the people, by the people, for the people

Bucco 06-17-2021 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by stanley (Post 1961059)
A Government of the people, by the people, for the people

ALL people and based on the truth.

This has been around for over 40 years, and suddenly one side says this is the issue. Along with the FBI causing the Capitol attack. Pushing states tof pass laws in search of an issue. Saying police is their issue, except if attacked in the Capitol.

Sound like your America ?

ALL the people would be great.

Fact is, from my point of view, they are strengthing their opposition, and sealing their fate.

GrumpyOldMan 06-17-2021 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1961067)
ALL people and based on the truth.

This has been around for over 40 years, and suddenly one side says this is the issue. Along with the FBI causing the Capitol attack. Pushing states tof pass laws in search of an issue. Saying police is their issue, except if attacked in the Capitol.

Sound like your America ?

ALL the people would be great.

Fact is, from my point of view, they are strengthing their opposition, and sealing their fate.

This pretty much sums up the lefts frustration. Every time we think we know what the right wants, they move the goal posts and come up with another conspiracy.

Bucco 06-17-2021 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1961072)
This pretty much sums up the lefts frustration. Every time we think we know what the right wants, they move the goal posts and come up with another conspiracy.

To clear air from my perspective.

I have served and been faithful to conservative practices all my life. I believed, no make that still believe in what good conservatives always did stand up for.

Morals, truth, small government, straight and honest on the issues.

That conservative belief does not exist anywhere today. In all my time serving those beliefs was I unfaithful to those credos.

Fact is, reading books, etc from many who served those principles with me, I am not even close to being alone. I never actually believed in left or right, just Americans with two different ways to help America and Americans to succeed. We engaged each other on the issues, in a straightforward manner, and gave our souls to find solutions together

Those beliefs have been usurped and distorted. There is no conservative group any longer.

Watching folks like Qnon, and the like simply take over and who admittedly make vicious untrue personal attacks to gain power, not solve issues, not moving my country forward. My former speaker speaks truthfully of his feelings.

Watch shocks me is those who professed n the past, conservative issues, have been snookered and used. I spent most of my days trying to stay ahead of your liberals, but still serving my country and not hating anyone.

I read posts on here from ex conservatives, who now serve the masters of conspiracies, lies and hate and wonder how ones soul is simply twisted.

Sorry for this rant, and if mods allow this, I will take my leave. I am physically ill, after all and then to hear support for theories about the FBI starting the attack on our Capitol, ignoring the call for equality in voting and who want their elected officials to lie to our children about the history of our country.

Frustration, as you say has passed...well beyond that. Watching criminals run my ex group, hearing them supported in anti American rhetoric is gut wrenching.


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