[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Byte1

How do you figure that the rich pay less taxes? Any taxes paid is more than half the country is paying and that is a fact. To be fair, we would either have to initiate a flat tax where EVERYONE (including the low earners) pays a percentage of earnings, OR we would have to have a federal sales tax. Then I wonder how some would feel about the rich paying sales taxes. A person wishing to save their money would not purchase. A rich person not wishing to pay taxes on a Rolls would purchase a Ford.
Time to quit making excuses and face reality. The rich are paying for the running of this country and should not be penalized to the point of leaving it. The rich are patriots. Yep, I said it because I am not biased against those that are my betters in wealth. It is the rich that employ. The gov cannot spend it's own money because it makes no money. It is the rich that pay the most taxes that finance the gov employees. If you want equity, then EVERYONE should pay the same. Is that what you really want?

The rich pay less taxes through the mechanism of Capital Gains. The rate is LOWER than rates on income!

[Aloha1]

Originally Posted by Phantomf8

Well written - EVERYONE should read this and LEARN!!!! Why did so many people die for this beautiful country with all of its faults? Were they "suckers" or were they fighting for what is described above - to preserve what we have built - not to have it torn down!!! We trust they did NOT die in vein!!!!! I've lost five members of my family in the last four wars - WWII, Korea, Vietnam and Iraq. Was it all for nought? Democracy is at best "messy" but its alternative "authoritarianism" [a rule of one] is worse! America resulted from a rebellion against the king [a rule of one] and now it is at risk of slipping back into those destructive chains of authoritarianism. Why? Because of the deep divisions and resultant anger [as so accurately described above] being played upon by political malfeasance.

The definitions of "equality" and "equity" are twisted around to define the moment which can result in a hazardous, slippery slope as defined in another response above - annihilation of capitalism is an extreme as is Marxism resulting in the eradication of the rule of law replaced by temporary "people power" which is self destructive and, in the long run, ends in authoritaranism such as exists in Russia. China's evolution of family dynasties till they were overthrown in the guise of "people power" again resulted in authoritarianism as we witness today.

Are we next? Are we going to tear each other apart until the rule of law is no longer? That gangsters - in the guise of preserving our country - will run rampant, as did the brown shirts before Hitler took control, suppressing and killing all those deemed in opposition to the new rule? Or ruler?

I for one, hope not! I pray that my, and everyone else's, ancestors did not die in vein defending this democracy. I pray that we ALL wake up in America, put down our frenzied differences, stop yelling at each other and LISTEN! There's the good, the bad and the ugly on all sides that need to be addressed so that we and democracy [no matter how messy] can survive!

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by Aloha1

No, it is a theory BUT it is a PROVEN theory and therefore reality and not a hypothesis.

Oh, and a hypothesis is an idea that has not been shown to make useful predictions, as a theory. And the idea that a theory makes useful predictions, does not mean it is always right. In fact, theories are often wrong more than they are right. Newton's theory of gravity is wrong. It has been prov en to be wrong, but it works sometimes, and so is useful when it is "good enough"

[SkBlogW]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

The rich pay less taxes through the mechanism of Capital Gains. The rate is LOWER than rates on income!

Of course not, they don't use H&R Block to produce their returns.

[Aloha1]

Originally Posted by Bucco

Well said..teach the truth and do not allow elected officials to run the curriculum

Uh, that runs counter to your previous posts. The poster you quoted is AGAINST the divisiveness of CRT. Re read the comment. Or have you had a change of heart?

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

The rich pay less taxes through the mechanism of Capital Gains. The rate is LOWER than rates on income!

So do the poor and everyone in between. A capital gain which can be due in part or in whole to inflation, for example, is a very, very different animal than earned income. It is based on any gain from the sale of an asset. In some countries NO tax is paid on capital gains. I think in the UK capital gains are taxed at 10%, much lower than in the US.

Last I heard in the USA 47% pay NO income taxes because they do not earn enough!!! That is almost half of us.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Teacher gets paid to teach state approved curriculum, they don’t get to teach off the cuff. It they can’t teach what state has approved, then they need to find another job. They don’t get to change history or state approved curriculum.

Robots are NOT quite yet teaching school.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

The rich pay less taxes through the mechanism of Capital Gains. The rate is LOWER than rates on income!

So in your world, someone like Mitt Romney for which we have a pretty good idea of the numbers, has no income other than capital gains and dividends, and pays 5 million/year in taxes in addition to his 3 million in charitable donations is "cheating" the poor little guy who works in a factory and earns 30,000/year because (in theory only) his tax rate is lower. Even though that "little guy" is paying ZERO in income tax, just like 47% of the population.

Were you indoctrinated to socialism in college, signed up for an adult "education" course, or simply dropped on your head as a baby?????

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan

Oh, and a hypothesis is an idea that has not been shown to make useful predictions, as a theory. And the idea that a theory makes useful predictions, does not mean it is always right. In fact, theories are often wrong more than they are right. Newton's theory of gravity is wrong. It has been prov en to be wrong, but it works sometimes, and so is useful when it is "good enough"

"Although Newton's theory has been superseded by Albert Einstein's general relativity, most modern non-relativistic gravitational calculations are still made using Newton's theory because it is simpler to work with and it gives sufficiently accurate results for most applications involving sufficiently small masses, ..."

From: Gravity - Wikipedia

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Robots are NOT quite yet teaching school.

I have experienced teachers who might as well have been robots. They had been conditioned by dogmatic leftist thinking and were not open minded whatsoever.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Phantomf8

Well written - EVERYONE should read this and LEARN!!!! Why did so many people die for this beautiful country with all of its faults? Were they "suckers" or were they fighting for what is described above - to preserve what we have built - not to have it torn down!!! We trust they did NOT die in vein!!!!! I've lost five members of my family in the last four wars - WWII, Korea, Vietnam and Iraq. Was it all for nought? Democracy is at best "messy" but its alternative "authoritarianism" [a rule of one] is worse! America resulted from a rebellion against the king [a rule of one] and now it is at risk of slipping back into those destructive chains of authoritarianism. Why? Because of the deep divisions and resultant anger [as so accurately described above] being played upon by political malfeasance.

The definitions of "equality" and "equity" are twisted around to define the moment which can result in a hazardous, slippery slope as defined in another response above - annihilation of capitalism is an extreme as is Marxism resulting in the eradication of the rule of law replaced by temporary "people power" which is self destructive and, in the long run, ends in authoritaranism such as exists in Russia. China's evolution of family dynasties till they were overthrown in the guise of "people power" again resulted in authoritarianism as we witness today.

Are we next? Are we going to tear each other apart until the rule of law is no longer? That gangsters - in the guise of preserving our country - will run rampant, as did the brown shirts before Hitler took control, suppressing and killing all those deemed in opposition to the new rule? Or ruler?

I for one, hope not! I pray that my, and everyone else's, ancestors did not die in vein defending this democracy. I pray that we ALL wake up in America, put down our frenzied differences, stop yelling at each other and LISTEN! There's the good, the bad and the ugly on all sides that need to be addressed so that we and democracy [no matter how messy] can survive!

We ARE on a knife's edge between Democracy and Dictatorship. Very WELL put! Kudos!

[Aloha1]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

This is as described by the far right. Google Critical Race Theory for more objective descriptions. The people who created Critical Race Theory are not Marxists as far as I can tell.

Critical Theory emerged out of the Marxist tradition and was developed by a group of sociologists at the University of Frankfurt in Germany who referred to themselves as The Frankfurt School. Critical theory as it is known today can be traced to Marx's critiques of the economy and society. It is inspired greatly by Marx's theoretical formulation of the relationship between economic base and ideological superstructure and focuses on how power and domination operate.

Instead of focusing on class, in the US, it has focused on race as the best way to achieve Marxist objectives.

[Aloha1]

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[Aloha1]

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan

So your interpretation of "awful lot" is NO ONE.

Reading comprehension is not your strong suit?

Not sure who you're replying to but I never said "awful lot" in my response to Bucco.

[Aloha1]

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan

You obviously do not know what the word theory means.

A theory is just an idea that makes useful predictions, It is NOT the truth, it does not represent reality. When referred to as a "proven theory" it means it makes predictions that are mostly accurate. It is still a theory, unlike facts that can be proven to be true.

There are very few facts known.

So, you are saying nothing is proven and no one can know the facts? Sounds like faith to me. But the dictionary says this:

Theory definition: A coherent group of tested general propositions, commonly regarded as correct, that can be used as principles of explanation and prediction for a class of phenomena:

The key here is "commonly". CRT is certainly not commonly accepted.