[billethkid]

Originally Posted by drducat

Our Governor says it best.

Florida’s education system exists to create opportunity for our children. It Critical Race Theory teaches kids to hate our country and to hate each other. is state-sanctioned racism and has no place in Florida schools.

https://twitter.com/GovRonDeSantis/s...134704129?s=20

Simply stated!!
Intellectualizing it is akin to sorting fly specs from pepper!!

[Gray lady of the sea]

Thank you ! You are absolutely correct

[Bucco]

Teach our children the truth.

Why push to change history.

As children find that they have been lied to, they will ask WHY.

[Bucco]

A comment from Texas, and while I am oft criticized for giving links, I am sorry...do not have the source..

"Texas banning Critical Race Theory is like Baylor banning pre-marital sex because it might lead to dancing."

[jebartle]

Bottom line, teach our children how the pigment of skin was the basis of our hierarchy, shame on us.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by jebartle

Bottom line, teach our children how the pigment of skin was the basis of our hierarchy, shame on us.

The Problem of Slavery in Western Culture - Wikipedia

David Brion Davis - Wikipedia

Think it had more to do with cotton in the South and cultivating it with cheap labor.

Slaves in ancient times could have had any skin color and come from any country. But it was about cheap labor and control of it. Other things too.

University of Maryland historian Ira Berlin wrote that "no scholar has played a larger role in expanding contemporary understanding of how slavery shaped the history of the United States, the Americas, and the world than David Brion Davis."[11] In a series of landmark books, articles, and lectures, Davis moved beyond a view of slavery that focuses on the institution in individual nations to look at the "big picture", the multinational view of the origins, development, and abolition of New World slavery.[12] The most important of his books is his trilogy on the history of slavery in the Western world, which revealed the centrality of slavery in American and Atlantic history. The trilogy consisted of the Pulitzer Prize-winning The Problem of Slavery in Western Culture (1966), The Problem of Slavery in the Age of Revolution, 1770–1823 (1975), and The Problem of Slavery in the Age of Emancipation, (2014).[13] He was committed to a conception of culture as process—a process involving conflict, resistance, invention, accommodation, appropriation, and, above all, power, including the power of ideas. Culture, in his view, involves a cacophony of voices but also social relations that involve hierarchy, exploitation, and resistance.[14]

[bobdeb]

I'm wary of the public school system in general. Yes, there are so many talented and giving and unselfish teachers everywhere. I applaud them openly.

But, then again, so many public systems, in my experience, are disingenuous in their teachings. There are so many subtle nuances in their teachings.

I support public schools in three different counties so I feel entitled to my 'opinion'. I know teachers all through New England. I read their bumper stickers. I see their posts in local message boards. They have strong opinions. And they all seem to be in unison.

Please, spare me the enlightened theme.

I support public schools, private schools and charter schools.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by bobdeb

I'm wary of the public school system in general. Yes, there are so many talented and giving and unselfish teachers everywhere. I applaud them openly.

But, then again, so many public systems, in my experience, are disingenuous in their teachings. There are so many subtle nuances in their teachings.

I support public schools in three different counties so I feel entitled to my 'opinion'. I know teachers all through New England. I read their bumper stickers. I see their posts in local message boards. They have strong opinions. And they all seem to be in unison.

Please, spare me the enlightened theme.

I support public schools, private schools and charter schools.

Many of their parents in New England would have the very same strong opinions.

[saratogaman]

Originally Posted by Bay Kid

Curious why this is being pushed in our schools? This seems like it is designed to divide our country.

One problem with your question -- critical race theory it's not being taught in schools. It's being hyped by some media and politicians just like Sharia Law was hyped in recent years as though it's a real problem...just to scare people. Let's not fall victim to yet another bunch of hokum.

[bobdeb]

Teachers can be opinionated like anyone else. And could very well have different opinions than a student's parents.

I've known several personally. Their inclinations and positions are painfully obvious. Well, be objective in the classroom, if you can.

You want to talk about Teacher's Unions or get banned from TOTV?

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by saratogaman

One problem with your question -- critical race theory it's not being taught in schools. It's being hyped by some media and politicians just like Sharia Law was hyped in recent years as though it's a real problem...just to scare people. Let's not fall victim to yet another bunch of hokum.

It might come up at law schools more often and once in a while in college in History, Philosophy, Art, Literature, Political Science, and other kinds of classes.

Probably not so much anywhere below 10th grade. And then only if they see it all over the news. Then everyone gets in the fray.

[blueash]

Black Americans have been systematically subjected to overt and hidden racism and racial agendas since they arrived on this continent in 1619. Those who deny it are likely hidden racists or overt racists themselves as they simply see what happened as "history" and not a big deal. I offer a passage I came across today doing a family tree. It is from a newspaper in Bluefield WV in 1911, a Union state I would point out and 50 years after the South formed a new country to protect slavery as the most import right of their states.

A bill has been drafted to separate white and colored races on railroads, preferably in separate cars but if needed in separate areas of single cars.

"The separate accommodations.. the demand for it being practically unanimous among the white people. Many of the better class of colored people also favor the law as they realize that it means better accommodations for their people than can be given under existing conditions and also that whatever is a tendency to lessen the friction between the two races is greatly to the benefit of the colored people. Of course there are some colored people who opposed to the measure but they would equally be opposed to separate schools and we all know that this is not the sentiment of the better colored people. Properly looked at the law cannot be considered in any sense as an effort to discriminate against the negro"

This is the real American history. This is what white people did and still do to convince themselves that they are being more than fair to those negro people who at least the better negroes see as the best way forward. Why everyone knows a negro wouldn't want to be in a white school, and there is going to be friction if the races don't stay separated. Tell me Fox people, can you hear the 1911 version of Hannity making this speech?

Critical race theory would teach this material, and yes it might lead some bright students to see the parallels between the kind of mental gymnastics that Senator French used and that used now. Certainly can't present that sort of material or it might open some eyes to the reality of the ugly ugly history of racism that neither ended with the Civil War nor the election of 2008.

[SkBlogW]

Originally Posted by saratogaman

One problem with your question -- critical race theory it's not being taught in schools. It's being hyped by some media and politicians just like Sharia Law was hyped in recent years as though it's a real problem...just to scare people. Let's not fall victim to yet another bunch of hokum.

Website by Cornell Law School professor tracks CRT training in schools

Critical Race Training in Education

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by S=kBlogW

Website by Cornell Law School professor tracks CRT training in schools

Critical Race Training in Education

Created by William Jacobson, a known conservative activist who has had videos on YouTube taken down

His record of right wing extremist views is well known.

Again, allow elected officials and activists in the P arena to dictate what is taught, as a replacement for truth, to our children ?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Aloha1

You mean the research I do? I can't fix your world view nor would I try to do that. It's just sad to see people who won't take the time to actually look at what's happening in our country today. They will be the first to go "What happened to the United States?"

What happened to the US. I think most Of us (at least 70%) are asking ourselves that question. I can think of about 10 factors. I can talk about one of them that relates directly to CRT, which I think is a clumsy and confusing name. (It has caused confusion here. It does seem foreign or socialist-type scary) I would call it.....teaching the TRUE history of the US......not WHITEwashing it (pun intended). A free society has zero reasons to try to duck the TRUTH. My high school never mentioned the Tulsa massacre or the Rosewood, Fl one. I was mature enough in 8th grade to take in those TRUTHS. I had Black friends that I played sports with that I could have had a reasonable conversation with on that subject. Race relations would be SO much better today if in 1965 President Johnson had EXTENDED Civil Rights laws to encourage Blacks and White to live in the SAME neighborhoods - by tax credits for builders of new developments or whatever would have made that happen. In the 60s my white neighborhood was physically far away from the Black neighborhood in the same town - that made RELATING to each other more difficult. In college and in the Air Farce, it was much easier to relate to other races - there was less physical SEPERATION!