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Harold.wiser 04-10-2024 08:13 AM
They are responsible for ignoring their son's pleas for help, not getting him proper psychiatric care, purchasing him a hand gun, and not properly securing the gun.
They definitely deserve to be held accountable, the extent of which will be debated for quite some time.

GATORBILL66 04-10-2024 08:24 AM
WOW! Now any parent or even grandparent could be charged with a child's crime just for being related to the child.

Normal 04-10-2024 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by GATORBILL66 (Post 2320320)
WOW! Now any parent or even grandparent could be charged with a child's crime just for being related to the child.
Basically, yes. It’s time to crack down on the inner city gang neighborhoods.

PurePeach 04-10-2024 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2320121)
Today, James and Jennifer Crumbley were sentenced 10 to 15 years in prison for involuntary manslaughter for negligence in connection with the 4 murders committed by their son, Ethan, who was 15, in Michigan. I understand that they were probably negligent and could have done more to prevent their son from committing the crimes. But, they didn't commit the murders. I would also point out that Ethan was charged and sentenced as an adult, not a juvenile.

What about the hundreds of juveniles who walk around with illegal handguns and commit murders in cities like Chicago, New York, Baltimore and other cities every day. Some of these murderers are as young as 13 years old, they are out on the streets after midnight, and their parents have no idea where they are or what they are doing. In most of these cases, law enforcement doesn't even think about arresting or charging the parents with any crime at all. To me, this sounds like a very inconsistent and unfair legal system regarding arrest and prosecution. What do you think?
Gotta start somewhere and when a kid asks for help and dad says, “get over it,” then buys him a 9mm Sig Sauer, and he texts mom that he just got caught in class looking for ammo on line and she responds “seriously?” and asks him if he showed them a picture of his new gun, they deserve to go to jail. :spoken:

JP 04-10-2024 08:46 AM
They are culpable but so are a whole bunch of other people that never see any punishment. Seems like overkill to justify a cause.

fdpaq0580 04-10-2024 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Accidental1 (Post 2320256)
A planned school shooting and gang violence are hardly equal.
Often producing the same result.

Normal 04-10-2024 08:57 AM
Rural vs. Urban Mentality
 
Michigan is full of wilderness that includes great hunting, dangerous predators and wide open spaces. It also is home to Detroit and a somewhat adequate police presence. A state law would do little because of the disparity of Wolverine land where everyone wears orange in November and the recital appointments in urban Battle Creek. The real problem was the judgement by the parents. Were they living in another section of Michigan, they would have been acquitted. You can’t live in Detroit and act like you are from upstate.

fdpaq0580 04-10-2024 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by GATORBILL66 (Post 2320320)
WOW! Now any parent or even grandparent could be charged with a child's crime just for being related to the child.
Slow down. No need to panic. Each case will be charged according to the facts.

GWilliams 04-10-2024 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2320121)
Today, James and Jennifer Crumbley were sentenced 10 to 15 years in prison for involuntary manslaughter for negligence in connection with the 4 murders committed by their son, Ethan, who was 15, in Michigan. I understand that they were probably negligent and could have done more to prevent their son from committing the crimes. But, they didn't commit the murders. I would also point out that Ethan was charged and sentenced as an adult, not a juvenile.

What about the hundreds of juveniles who walk around with illegal handguns and commit murders in cities like Chicago, New York, Baltimore and other cities every day. Some of these murderers are as young as 13 years old, they are out on the streets after midnight, and their parents have no idea where they are or what they are doing. In most of these cases, law enforcement doesn't even think about arresting or charging the parents with any crime at all. To me, this sounds like a very inconsistent and unfair legal system regarding arrest and prosecution. What do you think?
As long as they do the same to judges and politicians who allow repeat offenders and career criminals on the street.

Windguy 04-10-2024 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by GATORBILL66 (Post 2320320)
WOW! Now any parent or even grandparent could be charged with a child's crime just for being related to the child.
That’s not what is happening and you know it.

They weren’t charged because they were related, but because they enabled his horrendous crime.

Red Rose 04-10-2024 10:06 AM
The Crumbleys deserve more time behind bars than what they got. They never showed any remorse toward the victims and their families. Plus, they supplied the gun to their son who they knew was unstable, never addressed the problem to get him help and refused to take him home that day. They should have taken the responsibility and gotten him help right away that day. They had so many opportunities to do the right thing, but they didn’t care.

JMintzer 04-10-2024 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Robojo (Post 2320300)
AND this is why they were charged. Political motivation

We don't need gun laws.
Slight correction...

We don't need MORE gun laws... Just enforce the ones we already have on the books...

RedChariot 04-10-2024 10:09 AM
It's about time parents are held accountable for the actions of their children. Going forward the child's behavior should be reviewed and what actions did the parents take to address the child's issues. Parents who have done nothing and ignored these issues should be prosecuted. I wonder if in the past if anyone who lost their child in a school shooting civilly sued the parents of the shooter.

JMintzer 04-10-2024 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Wondering (Post 2320307)
Tell that to the FAMILIES OF THE STUDENTS WHO WERE MURDERED. Get off your stereo typing bandwagon of so called crime in major US cities. You are parroting false propaganda. Do some legitimate fact checking on current crime statistics in the US. "Polly want a cracker!"
Nice emotional argument that has nothing to do with the facts to which you responded...

"So called crime in major US cities"... Bwahahaha!

JMintzer 04-10-2024 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2320343)
Slow down. No need to panic. Each case will be charged according to the facts.
https://media.tenor.com/p54UKZMskZoA...eson-laugh.gif


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