[Tmarkwald]

Originally Posted by Patriceunger

There is zero chance that I’d take any of the vaccines if I was pregnant.

Even though it has been documented that the mother passes the immunity to the child?

[Eg_cruz]

Originally Posted by RedChariot

Anti-vaxxers only care about themselves. Its me, me, me. All your points are well taken.

What a dumb statement.......if I don’t want a foreign substance shot into my body because there not enough data to back it up....how is that selfish? What is selfish is people trying to push, demand, and shame people into doing something they feel is not healthy for them.
People get sick from the shot because you are putting a mRNA (foreign substance) into your body, your body rejects it and tries to fight it. now if that’s okay with you go get your shot and be happy.......but if it is not okay with you YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO SAY NO THANK YOU.
It has nothing with being selfish it has to do with doing what you feel is right for you. That beefing NO I am not getting the guinea pig shot and yes I practice the guidelines I wear my mask, I social distance and I wash my hand all day everyday. So I am doing my part to stay healthy for me and my family.
So stop calling people who have made a decision about their rights selfish is wrong and childish

[Eg_cruz]

Originally Posted by lpkruege1

So If I die after taking the vaccine, or one of children, grandchildren, or great grandchildren, are those that say we're being selfish, indeed selfish? This is still a vaccine that doesn't have FDA approval. It only has Emergency approval. What are the long term affects on children? What are the long term affects on child bearing women? Our immune systems are made to adapt to these viruses. Look at the numbers. Cities locked down the hardest are now experiencing a surge while those that opened up early are going down. The difference? Immune systems allowed to work. So your vaccine, do You now have life time, absolute immunity? So you rolled the dice and came up good. Are you willing to be responsible for those that die? It's a personal choice and should remain so.

Well said

[Tmarkwald]

Originally Posted by Swoop

If you don’t believe it’s still a trial consider this:
How long will the vaccine protect you for - unknown
Will you require a booster shot - unknown
Will it protect you against variants - unknown
Will there be any long term side effects - unknown
That sounds like a trial to me...

So, when you contract Covid and are hospitalized, you may have a different opinion.

There are millions in India right now who would love for the opportunity to get vaccinated so they won't die.

Not getting the vaccine is being extremely selfish.

[Eg_cruz]

Originally Posted by Tmarkwald

Even though it has been documented that the mother passes the immunity to the child?

Even more of a reason. Because now the mom will pass a foreign mRNA ( messenger-ribonucleis acid) to her child .....no thank you

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Eg_cruz

What a dumb statement.......if I don’t want a foreign substance shot into my body because there not enough data to back it up....how is that selfish? What is selfish is people trying to push, demand, and shame people into doing something they feel is not healthy for them.
People get sick from the shot because you are putting a mRNA (foreign substance) into your body, your body rejects it and tries to fight it. now if that’s okay with you go get your shot and be happy.......but if it is not okay with you YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO SAY NO THANK YOU.
It has nothing with being selfish it has to do with doing what you feel is right for you. That beefing NO I am not getting the guinea pig shot and yes I practice the guidelines I wear my mask, I social distance and I wash my hand all day everyday. So I am doing my part to stay healthy for me and my family.
So stop calling people who have made a decision about their rights selfish is wrong and childish

Medications are foreign substances too. Are you medication free? Please don't answer that, just think about it. RNA is part of every cell in our bodies so it is not foreign to our bodies. Personally, I have read up so much on the mRNA vaccines (Moderna and Pfizer) before I was vaccinated so I had an idea of what the technology was. I am thrilled that this technology exists and felt very safe receiving my vaccination.

This is information from the CDC (hope you trust the information from them) to get a better understanding of what this "foreign substance" actually is all about........

Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines | CDC

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Eg_cruz

Even more of a reason. Because now the mom will pass a foreign mRNA ( messenger-ribonucleis acid) to her child .....no thank you

Just wondering why do you believe a substance (RNA) that is part of every cell in our bodies is foreign? The messenger is just that....a messenger that is eliminated from the body once it gives instructions for our immune systems to launch a defense if it comes in contact with the Covid virus. This is the "beauty" if you will, of these mRNA vaccines. Why do you keep perpetuating the idea that RNA is foreign? I'd really like to know. Thanks.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Eg_cruz

Please explain how not getting the shot is self serving. You seem to want to became a nanny state.....no thank you
So you go sit down and shut up

Because Covid-19 does kill people. I don't know what a "Nanny State" means but it does sound like your resistance to being vaccinated has something to do with resisting government. I don't like big government or Federal and State government wasting money and being involved in secular decisions either.

I do know that we have willingly stuck out our arms before to put things like Polio and Smallpox in the past. This is the same thing. We save our lives and in so doing we protect others too. I was relieved to take the shot from Moderna. I was extremely happy to be protected against this disease that could have killed me and my precious husband and our daughter who is vulnerable because of congenital cardio-vascular issues. I can't imagine why people are believing false narratives about vaccination against Covid-19.

[Lindsyburnsy]

When I read these posts, it’s good to read that there are so many people in TV who listen to science.
Covid is a new flu that is more virulent and deadly (570,000 dead) than other flus. We will probably hv to add COVID flu shots to regular flu shots every year. I’ll wear a mask indoors as long as needed.

Originally Posted by Garywt

We will continue as we are for a long time, masks, distancing and who knows what else.

[Tmarkwald]

Originally Posted by Eg_cruz

Even more of a reason. Because now the mom will pass a foreign mRNA ( messenger-ribonucleis acid) to her child .....no thank you

You do realize, of course that is absolutely impossible....

Messenger RNA has been studied and applied for decades - discovered I think 60 years ago. The ONLY problem that science and medical had? It degraded too fast to be used. That was the only issue.

[Tmarkwald]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Because Covid-19 does kill people. I don't know what a "Nanny State" means but it does sound like your resistance to being vaccinated has something to do with resisting government. I don't like big government or Federal and State government wasting money and being involved in secular decisions either.

I do know that we have willingly stuck out our arms before to put things like Polio and Smallpox in the past. This is the same thing. We save our lives and in so doing we protect others too. I was relieved to take the shot from Moderna. I was extremely happy to be protected against this disease that could have killed me and my precious husband and our daughter who is vulnerable because of congenital cardio-vascular issues. I can't imagine why people are believing false narratives about vaccination against Covid-19.

And yet there are people who simply don't care and selfishly refuse to get the vaccine, thereby increasing the infection number and keeping the virus alive and active by providing hosts.

The only good thing? Survival of the fittest - maybe this will cull people who have a predisposition to find a conspiracy under every rock from the ranks of humanity.

Good riddance...

[Swoop]

Originally Posted by Tmarkwald

So, when you contract Covid and are hospitalized, you may have a different opinion.

There are millions in India right now who would love for the opportunity to get vaccinated so they won't die.

Not getting the vaccine is being extremely selfish.

As I have posted before, based on the statistics provided by the CDC, the chances of me being hospitalized with Covid are less than 4/100’s of 1%...
Those are odds I’m comfortable with...

[Tmarkwald]

Originally Posted by Swoop

As I have posted before, based on the statistics provided by the CDC, the chances of me being hospitalized with Covid are less than 4/100’s of 1%...
Those are odds I’m comfortable with...

And, you can get it, and give it, to someone with a compromised immune system and kill them.

Glad you can live with that.

I can't live with the thought that my own selfishness would result in someone else's death...

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Lindsyburnsy

When I read these posts, it’s good to read that there are so many people in TV who listen to science.
Covid is a new flu that is more virulent and deadly (570,000 dead) than other flus. We will probably hv to add COVID flu shots to regular flu shots every year. I’ll wear a mask indoors as long as needed.

COVID-19 is not a flu of any kind. "Flu" is short for "influenza virus." "COVID-19" is short for "Corona VIrus Disease, 2019 version."

Influenza virus is not coronavirus. Two different virii. Sort of like the difference between water paint and oil paint. They're both paint but they are treated very differently.

[Tmarkwald]

Originally Posted by Lindsyburnsy

Covid is a new flu that is more virulent and deadly (570,000 dead) than other flus.

Actually, it is related to the common cold, not a flu at all.

Coronaviruses are a group of related RNA viruses that cause diseases in mammals and birds.

In humans and birds, they cause respiratory tract infections that can range from mild to lethal.

Mild illnesses in humans include some cases of the common cold (which is also caused by other viruses, predominantly rhinoviruses), while more lethal varieties can cause SARS, MERS, and COVID-19.