[PJOHNS2654]

We assume we know what happened last May, not so fast...
The trial starts this week but here is a video that shows what should have been said a long time ago.

Who killed George Floyd? E15 from stephen devita on Vimeo

It will be interesting to see if this is introduced at The Trial.










Who killed George Floyd? E15 from stephen devita on Vimeo

[Karadad]

Thanks very much for sharing this!!!!

[JohnN]

quite interesting. thanks for sharing

[Topspinmo]

There two jobs I would never do. Police officer and nurses aid.

[Taltarzac725]

Did George Floyd really die from drug use and not homicide? | kare11.com

I would check the Twin Cities resources for a more diligent look into the facts.

[tvbound]

As was proved by the Rodney King verdict, justice is not always served. What can't be unseen by millions around the world however, is a white cop with 18 previous complaints, who knelt on the neck of a totally restrained black man for over 8 minutes - while the black man died. No amount of spin, will ever change that.

[Justus]

PJOHNS2654, Thank you for this. The entire fiasco has been a miscarriage of justice. Our hearts go out to those officers, who did an exemplary job in dealing with him; they should have been awarded medals instead of being prosecuted. Their lives have been ruined for selflessly serving society, and George Floyd's family, who raised a career felon and danger to society, have become multimillionaires.

For those who feel otherwise, here is a brief, but incomplete, overview of George Floyd's criminal record: 6 burglaries, 3 car thefts, multiple illegal trespasses, ongoing cocaine and alcohol addiction, 2 violent home invasions, 3 armed robberies, dealing & taking Fentanyl and Meth, passing counterfeit money, beating 4 victims senseless. He had been arrested 23 times since 1998.

This is what today's police officers deal with daily. God bless them for putting themselves in harm's way for us!

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by tvbound

As was proved by the Rodney King verdict, justice is not always served. What can't be unseen by millions around the world however, is a white cop with 18 previous complaints, who knelt on the neck of a totally restrained black man for over 8 minutes - while the black man died. No amount of spin, will ever change that.

Not just while he died. An argument can be made that he struggled violently up until the end and needed to be held down with force. I don't believe it, but it's an excuse that could, theoretically, work.

What won't work is ANY excuse that he CONTINUED kneeling on Floyd's neck AFTER he learned Floyd no longer had a pulse and had ceased struggling. He REFUSED to let up. The video shows this, it's clear, there's no way around it. The cop caused Floyd's death, and made SURE he was dead by continuing to cut off his circulation after he no longer had a pulse.

That is the unforgiveable part, and the part that needs to be punished. That is what makes it not "homicide" but "murder."

[PJOHNS2654]

He had three times the amount of Fentanyl in him that would cause an overdose death.

[Justus]

If you've ever dealt with someone on Fentanyl - Floyd had 3 times the lethal dose in his system - you probably know that, even after they are unconscious and sometimes declared dead, they can awake with brute force and kill. Would you risk the lives of yourself and your fellow officers by releasing this violent, out-of-control felon from a LEGAL neck hold? How easy it is to be a armchair quarterback when there is no risk to yourself. Would you still question the need for caution or call the officer/officers murderers if they were your son or daughter?

[Joe V.]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

The cop caused Floyd's death, and made SURE he was dead by continuing to cut off his circulation after he no longer had a pulse.

Not what the coroner said.

[Justus]

Originally Posted by Joe V.

Not what the coroner said.

You're absolutely correct.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Justus

If you've ever dealt with someone on Fentanyl - Floyd had 3 times the lethal dose in his system - you probably know that, even after they are unconscious and sometimes declared dead, they can awake with brute force and kill. Would you risk the lives of yourself and your fellow officers by releasing this violent, out-of-control felon from a LEGAL neck hold? How easy it is to be a armchair quarterback when there is no risk to yourself. Would you still question the need for caution or call the officer/officers murderers if they were your son or daughter?

I see a video put out by the TEA PARTY, not actual non bias observers, narrated by someone with very close ties to the FEDERALIST, again not exactly non bias.

Having said that....I detest these protests, and wonder why we have no protests against people who slaughter 10 or so innocent people. There are simply statements that any man has the right to own and carry a war designed and made for war.

Mr Floyd was certainly not a model citizen, but reviewing everything from the arrest it self to the demonstrations and reaction by law enforcement, there is much to be embarrassed by on those who find these tragedies to be spark for more action.

We are a country divided and split by hate.....with no silver lining ahead. We embarrass ourselves every day....we long ago, shed the label of "the shining light on the hill".

This was posted to rile folks up and I am sure it will, yet others get banned because they defend our very government but then again.....all those folks had white skin and heavy weight backing.

It gets very difficult to want justice when so many are dedicated to the theory that justice belongs to a select few.

Those who preach on here about Villagers and how "we" did it the right way, and "we" deserve and others do not. That is pure bunk and I think you know it. Do you know how many more have all done it correctly and are on skid row ? Do you know how many have NEVER done the right thing, yet have led a charmed and wonderful life.

These generalities simply ignore reality but then again, we are living a fantasy life, aren't we ?

[Kenswing]

Originally Posted by Bucco

I see a video put out by the TEA PARTY, not actual non bias observers, narrated by someone with very close ties to the FEDERALIST, again not exactly non bias.

Having said that....I detest these protests, and wonder why we have no protests against people who slaughter 10 or so innocent people. There are simply statements that any man has the right to own and carry a war designed and made for war.

Mr Floyd was certainly not a model citizen, but reviewing everything from the arrest it self to the demonstrations and reaction by law enforcement, there is much to be embarrassed by on those who find these tragedies to be spark for more action.

We are a country divided and split by hate.....with no silver lining ahead. We embarrass ourselves every day....we long ago, shed the label of "the shining light on the hill".

This was posted to rile folks up and I am sure it will, yet others get banned because they defend our very government but then again.....all those folks had white skin and heavy weight backing.

It gets very difficult to want justice when so many are dedicated to the theory that justice belongs to a select few.

Those who preach on here about Villagers and how "we" did it the right way, and "we" deserve and others do not. That is pure bunk and I think you know it. Do you know how many more have all done it correctly and are on skid row ? Do you know how many have NEVER done the right thing, yet have led a charmed and wonderful life.

These generalities simply ignore reality but then again, we are living a fantasy life, aren't we ?

I don't see anyone getting riled up until this post. In my opinion everyone else stated their opinion and why they felt that way. They stayed on topic too.

[Bucco]

This from the link in Tals post #5

"The Hennepin County medical examiner ruled the cause of death as “cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint and neck compression.” A Hennepin County Medical Examiner’s press release says the manner of death is homicide.
Floyd’s family had a second autopsy performed by Dr. Michael Baden and Dr. Allecia Wilson. Baden found the cause of Floyd’s death as “traumatic asphyxia due to compression of his neck and back during restraint by police” and called the manner of death homicide. Wilson listed the death as “asphyxia due to neck and back compression led to a lack of blood flow to the brain.”
Notes in a witness contact form from an interview with Dr. Andrew Baker, the Hennepin County medical examiner, show that he found the level of Fentanyl in Floyd’s system was “higher than a chronic pain patient,” but adds, “I’m not saying this killed him.” The notes also mention “a relatively low level of methamphetamine.”

Sometime, we need to begin to be anti hate....discuss how to understand each other, and to help our country all races, gender and religion move forward.

We preach it often but we sure do not even give it a nod, and we sure do not seem to understand what this is doing to this country.

Somehow we are locked in on "sides" and we must win.....win.....win.....what ever side or race you have chosen, you root for them and find something to justify whatever our "favorite" race, religion of political side has done.

We will wake up....my hope is it will not be too late, unless we have already crossed that bridge