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Northwoods 07-12-2020 08:51 PM
There was an excellent segment on NBC News about children returning to school. NBC talked to 5 leading pediatricians from across the country and ALL said they would send their children back to school. Here's the story:
5 pediatricians on the safety of schools amid pandemic

GoodLife 07-12-2020 09:20 PM
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There is a higher risk of serious illness to the teachers, aides and support staff including cafeteria workers and custodians who are precious to a lot of people and those people can spread the illness to seniors who will see one out of ten die if they contract the illness.
It's not 1 out of 10 seniors who die, according to CDC its 1.3 per 100. I have told you this several times.

Sweden also provided data on number of teachers who tested positive. The numbers are miniscule

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graciegirl 07-12-2020 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1802376)
It's not 1 out of 10 seniors who die, according to CDC its 1.3 per 100. I have told you this several times.

Sweden also provided data on number of teachers who tested positive. The numbers are miniscule

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New statistics say 7.8% of 80 year olds will die if they are diagnosed with Covid-19.

Coronavirus death rate: The latest estimate, explained - Vox

graciegirl 07-12-2020 09:28 PM
From WebMD.
"COVID-19 Death and Hospitalization Rates
The new analysis confirms earlier studies showing that both rates of death and hospitalization vary by age and increase with age. Children are least likely to die, with death rates in confirmed cases of less than 1% in newborns to 9-year-olds. That rose to 4.28% in people 70 and older, and to 7.8% in people 80 years and above.

While 11.8% of infected people in their 60s were estimated to have symptoms severe enough to need to be hospitalized, 16.6% of those in their 70s did. By age 80, 18.4% needed to be hospitalized."
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GoodLife 07-12-2020 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1802377)
Of seniors who are sick with Covid-19, the death rate is ten percent. (Sorry, Eight percent.)
These are the Infection Fatality Rates straight from the CDC website

0-49 years: 0.0005
50-64 years: 0.002
65+ years: 0.013
Overall: 0.004

Maybe someone should tell them they are wrong. :)

Nucky 07-12-2020 09:40 PM
Can you imagine a young child catching this B.S. and not being able to be comforted by a Parent or Adult in the hospital? Forget the numbers. Keep them at home. Which is worse homeschooling or an experience like that?

mtdjed 07-12-2020 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1800330)
What is your personal opinion on schools opening? Is it safe for children? Teachers? Staff? Will it further spread Covid-19? How safe/dangerous is it?
My opinion is that it is not my opinion that counts. The way our country is organized is that I have ceded my opinion to the Government by the election process. Relative to schools , that decision rests with the local , state and, federal government .

Gulfcoast 07-12-2020 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1802368)
There is a higher risk of serious illness to the teachers, aides and support staff including cafeteria workers and custodians who are precious to a lot of people and those people can spread the illness to seniors who will see one out of ten die if they contract the illness.

In response to GulfCoast, who mentions her/his teenage children and wanting them to be able to swim and drive and take other risks. Younger families are not as dangerously at risk of death as people who live here in The Villages. Many children have been visiting their grandparents here and could be carriers. Still younger people are experiencing some manifestation of the virus that are very worrisome, such as excessive clotting, causing strokes in young adults and skin rashes and congestion that can become quite serious. Long lasting damage to the lungs is also something that happens to younger people. The experts have really not had the time to assess all of the different ways this new corona virus damages the human body.

Many of us who live here in The Villages have had friends be hospitalized in the ICU and have lost friends to the virus. It is real and it is dangerous to seniors.
I totally understand what you're saying, TV is a higher risk demographic than a neighborhood filled with school children is. Obviously, grandparents would have to use their judgement and it might be that visits with the grandchildren will have to be kept to a minimum while school in session UNLESS the children are distance learning/homeschooling or otherwise socially isolating.

I, myself, am within the age range of people living in TV, I just happen to have one still in HS and another in college. Not quite ready to make the move, yet, but I'm starting the research. Thankfully, there seems to be some promising treatments for this virus being discussed. This might be the answer we have all been praying for!

JimJohnson 07-13-2020 02:53 AM
Is it possible one child could die if the schools are opened before a cure or vaccine is introduced? I feel very strong that until we are positive no child could possibly die, the it is a vile comment to say “open the schools”.

Northwoods 07-13-2020 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by JimJohnson (Post 1802407)
Is it possible one child could die if the schools are opened before a cure or vaccine is introduced? I feel very strong that until we are positive no child could possibly die, the it is a vile comment to say “open the schools”.
Every day, eight children aged 14 or younger in the US drown. Drowning ranks fifth among the leading causes of unintentional injury death in the United States.
So I have to assume based on you comment that you don't believe any child should be allowed to go in the water (or any pool). Because my guess is (and I could be wrong), that more children die from drowning than COVID-19.
So if one child could die.... we need to banish that in the school system.
If a child died playing on the playground... we can't open schools. If I child died because he ate something he was allergic to at lunch... we can't open schools.
Am I following you correctly?

Gulfcoast 07-13-2020 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Northwoods (Post 1802823)
Every day, eight children aged 14 or younger in the US drown. Drowning ranks fifth among the leading causes of unintentional injury death in the United States.
So I have to assume based on you comment that you don't believe any child should be allowed to go in the water (or any pool). Because my guess is (and I could be wrong), that more children die from drowning than COVID-19.
So if one child could die.... we need to banish that in the school system.
If a child died playing on the playground... we can't open schools. If I child died because he ate something he was allergic to at lunch... we can't open schools.
Am I following you correctly?
The number of drowning deaths for kids in Florida actually doubled once the Coronavirus stay at home orders went into place. Most of the drownings appear to be taking place in pools.

chet2020 07-14-2020 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1802114)
Hmmm Sweden's stats look much better when you compare them to this list of top ten death rates in the World.

Countries and US states with highest death rates per million

1. New Jersey 1757 deaths per million
2. New York 1665
3. Connecticut 1220
4. Massachusetts 1206
5. Rhode Island 921
6. Belgium 853
7. DC 805
8. Louisiana 733
9. United Kingdom 659
10. Michigan 632

So 5 US States have the very worst death rates per million in the world. US States have 7 of the highest death rates in the world. I included District of Columbia because they keep their own stats and made their own policies about lockdown etc. Those 7 states combine for a total of 71,351 covid 19 deaths, which is 52% of all covid 19 deaths in USA. 52% of deaths and only 16% of total population.
Here, let me summarize this data for you, death rate per 100K population:

Sweden 54.27 #8 in the world
U.S. 41.33 #10 in the world

But you're right, the Federal response to the virus in the U.S. has been abysmal, and we're advancing up the charts (our number was 40.7 when I posted two days ago, Sweden's was 54.0).

Xxmax@aol.com 07-14-2020 07:31 AM
Some teacher’s union want charter school abolished . Seems like they have a different agenda then the safety

Of children

Travelhunter 07-14-2020 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Jdunn (Post 1800904)
Maybe you should take your own advice and listen to actual doctors and experts.
Which ones?
Some experts masks others no mask
Some educational facilities open others closed
Experts? Please proved your sources

WVB#1 07-14-2020 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by JimJohnson (Post 1802407)
Is it possible one child could die if the schools are opened before a cure or vaccine is introduced? I feel very strong that until we are positive no child could possibly die, the it is a vile comment to say “open the schools”.
So do you seriously think no one will die from talking the vaccine? That would be a first.


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