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OrangeBlossomBaby 06-04-2020 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by daddymac1127 (Post 1777147)
I was taught not to desecrate or dishonor the American Flag. To me Kneeling during the national anthem is doing just that. If we allow anyone to do whatever they want as long as they can later justify it because of an injustice or disagreement won't we have anarchy at some point?

I just wish that the football players had used another means to show Black Lives matter.

The flag is a SYMBOL representing "with liberty, and justice for all." That is what the flag means, in our country. If there is no liberty and justice for all, then the flag's meaning is obscured, and it is actually DISrespectful to stand for it, until liberty, and justice for all is restored.

No matter which "side" you're on (because of course some people will insist there are sides, which is what creates division in the first place)..if you don't believe there should be liberty and justice for all, then you need to either a) move somewhere that is known for not having liberty and justice for all - like North Korea, for example, or b) continue standing for the flag and rejecting the first amendment right to kneel if you disagree that it no longer is what it's supposed to be.

ColdNoMore 06-04-2020 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1777240)
The flag is a SYMBOL representing "with liberty, and justice for all." That is what the flag means, in our country. If there is no liberty and justice for all, then the flag's meaning is obscured, and it is actually DISrespectful to stand for it, until liberty, and justice for all is restored.

No matter which "side" you're on (because of course some people will insist there are sides, which is what creates division in the first place)..if you don't believe there should be liberty and justice for all, then you need to either a) move somewhere that is known for not having liberty and justice for all - like North Korea, for example, or b) continue standing for the flag and rejecting the first amendment right to kneel if you disagree that it no longer is what it's supposed to be.

Well stated...and dead on. :thumbup:

daddymac1127 06-04-2020 01:00 PM

A 22 year Veteran. Thank you for your service. I doubt that you have used the National Anthem to protest or bring awareness to a cause.

daddymac1127 06-04-2020 01:06 PM

I never said that did not agree with justice and liberty for all.

I agree with Black Lives Matter. Everyone's life matters and all needed to be treated equal.

I said other means can be used to protest or bring light to a very important cause.

VOTING is a very powerful tool in this Country. Spending and campaigning for a cause to
educate voters. This happens every 4 years when we elect a President. Look how much money is spent during that period.

JimJohnson 06-04-2020 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by daddymac1127 (Post 1777253)
A 22 year Veteran. Thank you for your service. I doubt that you have used the National Anthem to protest or bring awareness to a cause.

I hav NOT, but if it would help set things right, I would.

BS Beef 06-04-2020 02:34 PM

What is he apologizing for?

What professional athlete has done more for a city (any city, any sport) through their acts or financially?
I'll wait.....

daddymac1127 06-04-2020 02:41 PM

I agree Drew shouldn't apologize. He didn't like to see the Flag and our country dishonored. No country is perfect; no human being is perfect.

New Englander 06-04-2020 02:48 PM

Black lives matter. Except when it's blacks killing blacks.

John_W 06-04-2020 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1777150)
Just like Brees did initially, you've totally missed the whole point.

Drew Brees is one of the few bright spots in the NFL. You can't miss the point when you speak your own heart. He had it right the first time and got 63,000,000 new fans. Now, it's a backtrack because he plays in a league that is 80% black.

https://i2.wp.com/www.sportsgossip.c...80%2C637&ssl=1

Stu from NYC 06-04-2020 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by John_W (Post 1777349)
Drew Brees is one of the few bright spots in the NFL. You can't miss the point when you speak your own heart. He had it right the first time and got 63,000,000 new fans. Now, it's a backtrack because he plays in a league that is 80% black.

https://i2.wp.com/www.sportsgossip.c...80%2C637&ssl=1

Agreed.

Stu from NYC 06-04-2020 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by New Englander (Post 1777336)
Black lives matter. Except when it's blacks killing blacks.

Sad that nobody wants to talk about that.

GoodLife 06-04-2020 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Stuart Zaikov (Post 1777372)
Sad that nobody wants to talk about that.

Black on Black murders blow up their entire agenda.

JoMar 06-04-2020 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JimJohnson (Post 1777201)
I disagree. I’m a 22 year Army Veteran and have great respect for what Kaepernick did. He had a large audience to bring an incredibly important issue to the forefront. God Bless Kaepernick.:pray:

What he did was take those 22 years you served and threw it in your face....as a defender of that flag you should never give a pass to anyone that discredits the flag, what it stands for and all those that served to defend it. I agree he had an incredibly important issue, and it still it is, but using the deaths of those that served is, IMO, not the way.

Stu from NYC 06-04-2020 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1777421)
What he did was take those 22 years you served and threw it in your face....as a defender of that flag you should never give a pass to anyone that discredits the flag, what it stands for and all those that served to defend it. I agree he had an incredibly important issue, and it still it is, but using the deaths of those that served is, IMO, not the way.

Well said

JoMar 06-04-2020 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1777240)
The flag is a SYMBOL representing "with liberty, and justice for all." That is what the flag means, in our country. If there is no liberty and justice for all, then the flag's meaning is obscured, and it is actually DISrespectful to stand for it, until liberty, and justice for all is restored.

No matter which "side" you're on (because of course some people will insist there are sides, which is what creates division in the first place)..if you don't believe there should be liberty and justice for all, then you need to either a) move somewhere that is known for not having liberty and justice for all - like North Korea, for example, or b) continue standing for the flag and rejecting the first amendment right to kneel if you disagree that it no longer is what it's supposed to be.

It is also "under God", but that doesn't fly with those that want it removed from the pledge. Freedom of religion is also a constitutional right. Kneeling does not facilitate "liberty and justice" for all, it seperates. Dialogue through finding common cause will advance the cause, kneeling will not. MO


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