[dewilson58]

This should be interesting.

[MartinSE]

Tread softly - or time out waits...

[Stu from NYC]

Your point?

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Your point?

No point at all, just sitting back enjoying the ride, I expect it will get heated.

[JMintzer]

[dewilson58]

The 14th.

The 1973 Roe v. Wade ruling relied on this clause when it concluded that prohibiting abortion violated a right to privacy under the Constitution by restricting a person’s ability to choose whether to have an abortion.

[rustyp]

- closing Katie Belle's
- removing church on the square
- closing Rialto and the Barnstorm
- eliminating pools with priority pass
- sex in the square
- dog poop in postal trash cans
- cyclists blowing stop signs
- golf carts over 20 mph
- responding to every building project with "check with the ARC"
- responding to every restaurant complaint with "what did the manager say
- it's the snowbirds fault
- it's the renters fault
- I love the summer heat

[jimbomaybe]

[QUOTE=dewilson58;2091993]The 14th.

The 1973 Roe v. Wade ruling relied on this clause when it concluded that prohibiting abortion violated a right to privacy under the Constitution by restricting a person’s ability to choose whether to have an abortion.[/QUOT

Is there any point in a pregnancy that a woman should be prohibited from having an abortion? Some would say its a moral/personnel failing on my part because I see a distinction between the first trimester pregnancy and one very near full term , There are those who would allow an abortion at any point, are those entitled to that privacy?

[Madelaine Amee]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

The 14th.

The 1973 Roe v. Wade ruling relied on this clause when it concluded that prohibiting abortion violated a right to privacy under the Constitution by restricting a person’s ability to choose whether to have an abortion.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by rustyp

- removing church on the square

I missed this one................are there open services??

[MartinSE]

The justification for banning or not comes down to moral/ethical issues based on "killing". And the issue can be debated ad nauseam, since there is no agreed upon definition of "human life" - and it is illegal to kill another human, but without agreement on what is a human (or when it becomes human) there is no way to resolve the debate.

As an atheist banning abortion appears to be a religious issue to me, and I am concerned with letting religion into the basis for laws. So, my position is this is a moral issue. An issue that has to be resolved between the woman (and the father?) and her/their doctor.

It seems most polls indicate a significant majority of the country (65% to 75%) disagree with overturning Roe v Wade. I expect this decision will have significant impacts on upcoming elections as women (and some men) become highly motivated to vote that otherwise would have stayed home.

To put it into a metaphor, "Now that the dog has caught the car, what is it going to do with it".

[dewilson58]

When does it become murder??

Embryo can't survive without help.

Fetus can't survive without help.

Newborn can't survive without help.

[rustyp]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

I missed this one................are there open services??

Just checking the subject of this thread - this is open mic night correct ?

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

When does it become murder??

Embryo can't survive without help.

Fetus can't survive without help.

Newborn can't survive without help.

I don't know the legal definition of murder - I expect it is different in every state, but I am pretty sure it has to do with death/killing of a person/human. You can't "murder" a butterfly or dog - I think.

Consider, if you see a person bleeding out on the side of the road and you don't do anything to help them, did you murder them?

Is abortion murder? If it has to be killing a person, then we circle back to what is a person.

First - define human, then we can decide if something is murder.

[Pinball wizard]

May the 4th be with you!