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BlackhawksFan 07-16-2020 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by John41 (Post 1803703)
Judge refuses to release to public video exonerating police officers in Floyd arrest.

The footage shows Floyd “actively resisting and acting erratic," Gray said, adding that releasing pieces of the video has resulted in incomplete news reports and benefits prosecutors.

In correct and inaccurate. Do better.

There's 6 week old stories all over the place about this security video rom China Wok restaurant showing his compliance.


George Floyd didn’t Resist Arrest |NEW SURVEILLANCE VID SHOWS MOMENTS BEFORE KILLING - YouTube

Fl3232mi340 07-16-2020 08:57 AM

Floyd
 
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Originally Posted by John41 (Post 1803703)
Judge refuses to release to public video exonerating police officers in Floyd arrest.

The footage shows Floyd “actively resisting and acting erratic," Gray said, adding that releasing pieces of the video has resulted in incomplete news reports and benefits prosecutors.

Disgusting - We had heard all about Floyd's actions before he was killed, of course they don't want that shown, it will acquit the officers or would bring a lesser charge.
This is not the America we all know and love!

Martian 07-16-2020 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by loweglor (Post 1804053)
Police get special training to handle all kinds of situations. People look to them for safety, protection and skill. People also expect police to be honest, trustworthy, understanding and in control. Do people understand that police are human too. Absolutely, however, people still expect police to possess the ability to know when a situation turns bad and expect the police to mitigate it not aggravate it. In this situation, none of the police did their job and a man died. Instead of trying to defend their actions, they should be upset about the result and admit they were wrong. Unfortunately, it seems, these particular officers could care less that a man died for no reason other than complete loss of control and human consideration. Very un-police like.

I agree, being licensed to kill comes with a grave responsibility to handle that license responsibly.

There will always be bad Apples, but as with Apples, the best thing to do is to separate them from the good Apples before they all go bad.

ffresh 07-16-2020 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ficoguy (Post 1803924)
You think the officer will get a fair trial?

Unfortunately, in our modern world, you only get your day in court. With a dearth of impartial judges and jury pools comprised of people who would be lucky to compose a cogent thought, a "fair trial" is often as elusive as a pink unicorn. And, in this situation, the MSM has him already convicted; the only thing left is the drawing and quartering.

All one need do is review the many comments on the subject on TOTV, without the TOTAL evidence, he's already convicted … frightening! I guess we no longer require a "jury of our peers". We are now so advanced, as a civilization, that we can "try and convict" on the basis of the MSM coverage alone. And let nothing (including additional facts) get in our way. :ohdear:

Fred

Indydealmaker 07-16-2020 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by EileenK (Post 1803836)
What is wrong with you people!! You believe “evidence” that has not been seen over what we all have seen. If someone was kneeling on my neck, I’d be ‘actively resisting and acting erratic’ to get out from under my attacker’s grip. There are right and wrong ways to hold a suspect and not one includes kneeling on their neck and throat.

Actually, the restraint moves used against this guy were in use by police all across the country with no mortalities and have never to this day killed anyone white, black or purple. The jury will be shocked when the non-political evidence is presented.

Marvic 1 07-16-2020 09:59 AM

The only thing that this “EXPLOSIVE new video“ would prove to those still in mourning is that this counterfeiter-druggie Floyd did not deserve a horse driven Presidential Funeral Procession that he got…. :ho:

jklfairwin 07-16-2020 10:17 AM

If it hasn't been released, where did you see it?

ffresh 07-16-2020 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1803931)
Almost 2 months of pure hell for our country. They only reported videos that caused riots, not the real truth. Resisting arrest. Working for years with the cop. High on drugs. Cleaning counterfeit money.

agenda-driven "news" coverage - that's all we get from MSM :ohdear:

Fred

cherylncliff 07-16-2020 11:04 AM

Once he was cuffed and restrained there was no reason to kneel on his neck and back, certainly not for 8 minutes and 46 seconds. What these officers did is inexcusable.

Taltarzac725 07-16-2020 11:09 AM

Dog whistle like pandering to the worst in people.

What happened to George Floyd was criminal in nature.

Does not matter what color your skin is. That should be quite obvious.

jlstree 07-16-2020 11:21 AM

I saw a video that shows him resisting arrest. The man was high on drugs and about to drive away in his SUV. If the police wouldn't have stopped him and arrest him and he hurt or killed someone, they'd be hell to pay for them. All of these police deaths came from the result of the criminal fighting the police, if obeying the police would have happened, they would all be alive today. This is a sad reply from me and not something I like seeing, I wish all people would obey LEO's.

karostay 07-16-2020 11:28 AM

No different than Daily Sun
They print only events and happenings just how they want you perceive life in the Villages
Not how it actually is in real life

roscoguy 07-16-2020 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom2172 (Post 1803875)
Floyd was media race hoax
Floyd died of Fentanyl overdose
It was one sided propaganda brainwashing
No information disputing the hoax is allowed
No witness statements Allowed
Just you must believe because fakenews demands it
No thinking no free will no free speech

Please be sure to rush all the evidence you have to support this deduction to the appropriate authorities! :ohdear:

TooColdNJ 07-16-2020 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1803931)
Almost 2 months of pure hell for our country. They only reported videos that caused riots, not the real truth. Resisting arrest. Working for years with the cop. High on drugs. Cleaning counterfeit money.

All that is very true, but at that moment, the cop’s life wasn’t threatened, and resisting arrest (for) passing a counterfeit bill wasn’t a reason for Floyd to be killed. Was he irrational and on drugs at the time of arrest? Even if so, there may have been a way to restrain him other than sitting on his throat, not die. Whether he was on drugs or not.

YES, if people learned to not resist arrest, just maybe these things wouldn't happen. I don’t think that will ever be the case. I think they’re fearful of abuse, rough handling... that they’ve seen by cops that do abuse their power, as a result of racism or for whatever the reason. When someone is fearful, the first reaction is to flee. .

Byte1 07-16-2020 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by EileenK (Post 1803836)
What is wrong with you people!! You believe “evidence” that has not been seen over what we all have seen. If someone was kneeling on my neck, I’d be ‘actively resisting and acting erratic’ to get out from under my attacker’s grip. There are right and wrong ways to hold a suspect and not one includes kneeling on their neck and throat.

Actually, kneeling on a subject arrested to get them under control is not uncommon. And from what has been released to the public (which I do not think they should until after trial) the autopsy did not indicate that the kneeling caused the loss of life.
I doubt the COPs that normally do a hard job of policing the city will get a fair trial since all this media has put the public opinion against them, just based on what the media has provided us.
The fact is that Floyd was a scumbag criminal, convicted of many crimes. Did he deserve to die? I am not GOD so I do not know. Do I care about him? NO, I do not. I do worry that the four COPs will not get a fair trial. I do not know if this was racially motivated or just a bad mistake in handling a suspect. I do not feel it was racially motivated, in my opinion based on the fact that two of the COPs were minority. Just saying. He resisted arrest and he died. I bet if he did not resist, he would still be alive. Just another of my opinions. His record showed that he was NOT a good person. It makes one wonder why he was given a presidential style funeral when a decent law abiding black man that served his community all his life, died at the hands of a rioter/looter shortly after was hardly given any recognition. Perhaps because he was a retired COP?

Jacob85 07-16-2020 10:53 PM

We saw a film. No matter what happened before the cop was in total control and kept his knee on Floyds neck for 8 minutes. He killed him. That was not self defense!

djwill27 07-17-2020 11:29 AM

Floyd Arrest
 
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Originally Posted by Indydealmaker (Post 1804095)
Actually, the restraint moves used against this guy were in use by police all across the country with no mortalities and have never to this day killed anyone white, black or purple. The jury will be shocked when the non-political evidence is presented.

I wonder where you get your information about that being a valid restraint for a handcuffed man. Most police chiefs I’ve seen speaking about the death of Mr. Floyd have said it’s not an approved method taught anywhere. The police should not have to choke a man to death who’s handcuffed to control him. I’ve seen nothing that justifies those actions. I’m not interested in what happened before they tried to put him the police car as background. The only part that counts for me is what happened on the ground outside the police car. It doesn’t matter why he was arrested, what crimes he committed, what his drug use history was, or any underlying health problems. I am only interested in what justification the police may have had for choking him to death and so far I haven’t seen any.

OhioBuckeye 07-17-2020 03:50 PM

Ohiobuckeye
 
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Originally Posted by John41 (Post 1803703)
Judge refuses to release to public video exonerating police officers in Floyd arrest.

The footage shows Floyd “actively resisting and acting erratic," Gray said, adding that releasing pieces of the video has resulted in incomplete news reports and benefits prosecutors.

John41 this is old news! The judge refuses to act on it because he's so afraid some radical black person will burn his house down. Just make sure you vote this Nov.

Bay Kid 07-18-2020 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by TooColdNJ (Post 1804243)
All that is very true, but at that moment, the cop’s life wasn’t threatened, and resisting arrest (for) passing a counterfeit bill wasn’t a reason for Floyd to be killed. Was he irrational and on drugs at the time of arrest? Even if so, there may have been a way to restrain him other than sitting on his throat, not die. Whether he was on drugs or not.

YES, if people learned to not resist arrest, just maybe these things wouldn't happen. I don’t think that will ever be the case. I think they’re fearful of abuse, rough handling... that they’ve seen by cops that do abuse their power, as a result of racism or for whatever the reason. When someone is fearful, the first reaction is to flee. .

Let us not forget that Floyd worked with this police officer as a bar bouncer, the same bar, for years. They had history that the media neglected to disclose.

bpascani 07-18-2020 05:45 PM

This is exactly what I have been questioning since say one. Does it make his actions (that we were allowed to see) justifiable? I think definitely not, BUT, sounds like we haven't seen or heard the full story, and there is NO WAY that ANY jury candidate hasn't seen everything we have seen. AGAIN, the officers continued actions were (and still are) unnecessary, and unacceptable, BUT this does not apply to the other 3 officers who were new, in training, and under the command of their senior officer.

theruizs 07-18-2020 10:13 PM

This is mostly fake news. Besides, it still does not warrant a slow torturous death sentence without judge or jury.

graciegirl 07-19-2020 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by theruizs (Post 1805572)
This is mostly fake news. Besides, it still does not warrant a slow torturous death sentence without judge or jury.

No. You are right.

But I sit here thinking that I have never been arrested and put in jail...ever. And you probably have not either. I am thinking that your life has been made up of many choices and many times you have acted or not acted or performed diligent work when it was not fun and not easy or not interesting. You and I have somehow failed to do things that broke the law.

And I say this. If George Floyd would have done and not done things similarly to what we have done and not done, he would be alive. If your lifestyle puts you in a position where you are drunk, have a record and are resisting arrest, you do not deserve to die assuredly, but you are living dangerously and causing others to react to restrain you.

Sister said...do not put yourself in "near occasion of sin".

Your mother said. "If everybody else jumped off a cliff, would you do it too???"

Your dad said. "I told you to stay out of their yard and it may be just one apple, but it is not yours."

The clerk at that store said; "He was in here earlier with two other guys who used a counterfeit bill and we gave it back to them and then this guy comes in later and uses a counterfeit twenty to try to buy cigarettes and we called the police".

His record said that he had broken into a home and held a gun at the belly of a pregnant woman and together with others stole from her.

I have never done that. But I have been young and in a situation that I needed money to live. So I worked at first at menial jobs. In the forties or fifties you turned 18 and you were expected to work because your folks didn't have money for you to go to college. Many of us climbed the ladder without stealing and ending up under the knee of a police officer.

Bay Kid 07-19-2020 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by theruizs (Post 1805572)
This is mostly fake news. Besides, it still does not warrant a slow torturous death sentence without judge or jury.

Not fake news. Floyd's death is totally not justified but there is more to this.

theruizs 07-19-2020 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1805643)
No. You are right.

But I sit here thinking that I have never been arrested and put in jail...ever. And you probably have not either. I am thinking that your life has been made up of many choices and many times you have acted or not acted or performed diligent work when it was not fun and not easy or not interesting. You and I have somehow failed to do things that broke the law.

And I say this. If George Floyd would have done and not done things similarly to what we have done and not done, he would be alive. If your lifestyle puts you in a position where you are drunk, have a record and are resisting arrest, you do not deserve to die assuredly, but you are living dangerously and causing others to react to restrain you.

Sister said...do not put yourself in "near occasion of sin".

Your mother said. "If everybody else jumped off a cliff, would you do it too???"

Your dad said. "I told you to stay out of their yard and it may be just one apple, but it is not yours."

The clerk at that store said; "He was in here earlier with two other guys who used a counterfeit bill and we gave it back to them and then this guy comes in later and uses a counterfeit twenty to try to buy cigarettes and we called the police".

His record said that he had broken into a home and held a gun at the belly of a pregnant woman and together with others stole from her.

I have never done that. But I have been young and in a situation that I needed money to live. So I worked at first at menial jobs. In the forties or fifties you turned 18 and you were expected to work because your folks didn't have money for you to go to college. Many of us climbed the ladder without stealing and ending up under the knee of a police officer.

You have not walked in his shoes. You and I had opportunities that were never available to him. I am not saying he could not have made better choices or that he is guilt free. But none of that really has anything to do with why he died. Our police cannot become judge, jury, and executioner. There was no reason he had to die there, and those officers had to now have a life on their hands and go through what they and their families are going through.

Marvic 1 07-19-2020 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by theruizs (Post 1805756)
You have not walked in his shoes. You and I had opportunities that were never available to him.

And how do you know that beside it being a BS talking point?
I was born and raised in the South Bronx of New York City, and here I am living in the SAME PLACE you are!!
Why:
Good Parents, Stayed in School, Served my Country, Good Caring Partner, Respected Others and Hard Work is what got me here!

theruizs 07-19-2020 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Marvic 1 (Post 1805813)
And how do you know that beside it being a BS talking point?
I was born and raised in the South Bronx of New York City, and here I am living in the SAME PLACE you are!!
Why:
Good Parents, Stayed in School, Served my Country, Good Caring Partner, Respected Others and Hard Work is what got me here!

Well, I was not talking to you if you noticed. But, yeah, the same goes. You have not walked in his shoes, and I would still bet money you had opportunities he did not. But I’ll give you that argument as the rest of mine still holds. Police should NOT be executing people on the spot. No one has shown any reason yet as to why he had to die except the careless act of the officers involved. FYI, you have no idea what I went through to be here either and I will still defend the concept of innocent until proven guilty, the right to a fair trial, etc. If we throw that out of the window what have we become? Judge Dredd?

ffresh 07-19-2020 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1805703)
Not fake news. Floyd's death is totally not justified but there is more to this.

Correct and it remains for a jury to sort it out. Hopefully, the jury will be comprised of rational individuals who place emotions aside and act solely on the facts presented - we all are owed this bit of jurisprudence from the criminal justice system. :pray:

Fred

Japrile 07-19-2020 07:37 PM

But rushing to judgement to destroy cops lives was ok? This needs to be settled ASAP!

Mikenbats66 07-19-2020 08:02 PM

Cop had his knee on his neck to affect the arrest
How can you know his intent was to kill the man ?
You don't
Fake news


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