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theruizs 07-18-2020 10:13 PM

This is mostly fake news. Besides, it still does not warrant a slow torturous death sentence without judge or jury.

graciegirl 07-19-2020 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by theruizs (Post 1805572)
This is mostly fake news. Besides, it still does not warrant a slow torturous death sentence without judge or jury.

No. You are right.

But I sit here thinking that I have never been arrested and put in jail...ever. And you probably have not either. I am thinking that your life has been made up of many choices and many times you have acted or not acted or performed diligent work when it was not fun and not easy or not interesting. You and I have somehow failed to do things that broke the law.

And I say this. If George Floyd would have done and not done things similarly to what we have done and not done, he would be alive. If your lifestyle puts you in a position where you are drunk, have a record and are resisting arrest, you do not deserve to die assuredly, but you are living dangerously and causing others to react to restrain you.

Sister said...do not put yourself in "near occasion of sin".

Your mother said. "If everybody else jumped off a cliff, would you do it too???"

Your dad said. "I told you to stay out of their yard and it may be just one apple, but it is not yours."

The clerk at that store said; "He was in here earlier with two other guys who used a counterfeit bill and we gave it back to them and then this guy comes in later and uses a counterfeit twenty to try to buy cigarettes and we called the police".

His record said that he had broken into a home and held a gun at the belly of a pregnant woman and together with others stole from her.

I have never done that. But I have been young and in a situation that I needed money to live. So I worked at first at menial jobs. In the forties or fifties you turned 18 and you were expected to work because your folks didn't have money for you to go to college. Many of us climbed the ladder without stealing and ending up under the knee of a police officer.

Bay Kid 07-19-2020 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by theruizs (Post 1805572)
This is mostly fake news. Besides, it still does not warrant a slow torturous death sentence without judge or jury.

Not fake news. Floyd's death is totally not justified but there is more to this.

theruizs 07-19-2020 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1805643)
No. You are right.

But I sit here thinking that I have never been arrested and put in jail...ever. And you probably have not either. I am thinking that your life has been made up of many choices and many times you have acted or not acted or performed diligent work when it was not fun and not easy or not interesting. You and I have somehow failed to do things that broke the law.

And I say this. If George Floyd would have done and not done things similarly to what we have done and not done, he would be alive. If your lifestyle puts you in a position where you are drunk, have a record and are resisting arrest, you do not deserve to die assuredly, but you are living dangerously and causing others to react to restrain you.

Sister said...do not put yourself in "near occasion of sin".

Your mother said. "If everybody else jumped off a cliff, would you do it too???"

Your dad said. "I told you to stay out of their yard and it may be just one apple, but it is not yours."

The clerk at that store said; "He was in here earlier with two other guys who used a counterfeit bill and we gave it back to them and then this guy comes in later and uses a counterfeit twenty to try to buy cigarettes and we called the police".

His record said that he had broken into a home and held a gun at the belly of a pregnant woman and together with others stole from her.

I have never done that. But I have been young and in a situation that I needed money to live. So I worked at first at menial jobs. In the forties or fifties you turned 18 and you were expected to work because your folks didn't have money for you to go to college. Many of us climbed the ladder without stealing and ending up under the knee of a police officer.

You have not walked in his shoes. You and I had opportunities that were never available to him. I am not saying he could not have made better choices or that he is guilt free. But none of that really has anything to do with why he died. Our police cannot become judge, jury, and executioner. There was no reason he had to die there, and those officers had to now have a life on their hands and go through what they and their families are going through.

Marvic 1 07-19-2020 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by theruizs (Post 1805756)
You have not walked in his shoes. You and I had opportunities that were never available to him.

And how do you know that beside it being a BS talking point?
I was born and raised in the South Bronx of New York City, and here I am living in the SAME PLACE you are!!
Why:
Good Parents, Stayed in School, Served my Country, Good Caring Partner, Respected Others and Hard Work is what got me here!

theruizs 07-19-2020 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Marvic 1 (Post 1805813)
And how do you know that beside it being a BS talking point?
I was born and raised in the South Bronx of New York City, and here I am living in the SAME PLACE you are!!
Why:
Good Parents, Stayed in School, Served my Country, Good Caring Partner, Respected Others and Hard Work is what got me here!

Well, I was not talking to you if you noticed. But, yeah, the same goes. You have not walked in his shoes, and I would still bet money you had opportunities he did not. But I’ll give you that argument as the rest of mine still holds. Police should NOT be executing people on the spot. No one has shown any reason yet as to why he had to die except the careless act of the officers involved. FYI, you have no idea what I went through to be here either and I will still defend the concept of innocent until proven guilty, the right to a fair trial, etc. If we throw that out of the window what have we become? Judge Dredd?

ffresh 07-19-2020 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1805703)
Not fake news. Floyd's death is totally not justified but there is more to this.

Correct and it remains for a jury to sort it out. Hopefully, the jury will be comprised of rational individuals who place emotions aside and act solely on the facts presented - we all are owed this bit of jurisprudence from the criminal justice system. :pray:

Fred

Japrile 07-19-2020 07:37 PM

But rushing to judgement to destroy cops lives was ok? This needs to be settled ASAP!

Mikenbats66 07-19-2020 08:02 PM

Cop had his knee on his neck to affect the arrest
How can you know his intent was to kill the man ?
You don't
Fake news


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