[MDLNB]

So if the Delta virus is infecting vaccinated persons then the cruise lines should stay closed, right? Personally, I don't care whether they are open or closed since I do not "cruise." But, with all the Chicken Littles running around screaming "the sky is falling" we should be safe and require everyone to stay home and inside so they do not spread the virus, right? Yeah, I'm being sarcastic.

[Topspinmo]

Cruise line the safest. LOL. IMO cruise lines are breading grounds for every germ around the world.

[stanley]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

These are the children that are too young to be vaccinated. They are not eligible for their age yet.

Again..........because it was deleted......but still on topic.......does that include the unborn???
Must be too sensitive a subject?

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Cruise line the safest. LOL. IMO cruise lines are breading grounds for every germ around the world.

After 40 cruises, I have never been sickened on a cruise so I must have a decent immune system. I do the washy washy thing when on board but that has been a "thing" on cruise ships since my first time on a cruise ship in 2001. There have always been hand sanitizer stations on cruise ships everywhere, not just since Covid. The trick is to use them.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by stanley

Again..........because it was deleted......but still on topic.......does that include the unborn???
Must be too sensitive a subject?

Not too sensitive a subject; I just don't know what you are getting at. ?????

EDIT: Thought about it more........... Are you referring to pregnant women getting the vaccine? They are being encouraged at this time to be vaccinated. The vaccine will offer protection to their unborn child which is a wonderful thing.

[stanley]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Not too sensitive a subject; I just don't know what you are getting at. ?????

EDIT: Thought about it more........... Are you referring to pregnant women getting the vaccine? They are being encouraged at this time to be vaccinated. The vaccine will offer protection to their unborn child which is a wonderful thing.

Yes that's what I'm getting at. Where is the research and proof the vaccine doesn't and won't in the future affect the fetus? There is none, there hasn't been enough time since the vaccine was developed. The CDC just throws crap to the wall and see's what sticks.
And you know............I have a problem when the CDC recommends "people" who are pregnant" to get the vaccine.

And it must be a sensitive subject since my first post on this was deleted by the mods

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by stanley

Yes that's what I'm getting at. Where is the research and proof the vaccine doesn't and won't in the future affect the fetus? There is none, there hasn't been enough time since the vaccine was developed. The CDC just throws crap to the wall and see's what sticks.
And you know............I have a problem when the CDC recommends "people" who are pregnant" to get the vaccine.

And it must be a sensitive subject since my first post on this was deleted by the mods

I see where you are coming from but the CDC has to make those educated decisions and I trust them to do that. They say it is better for the unborn child to have the protection than to be born with Covid which is what is happening when pregnant women contract Covid. It is a very tough call but they are erring on the safe side for Mom and baby. The announcement was made very recently and the CDC is getting out the message that they no longer say it is "OK" for pregnant women to get the vaccine; the CDC is encouraging pregnant women to get the vaccine. They deem these vaccines safe and I'm good with that.

[biker1]

According to the CDC,

Some newborns have tested positive for COVID-19 shortly after birth. It is unknown if these newborns got the virus before, during, or after birth.

Breastfeeding and Caring for Newborns | CDC

Originally Posted by coffeebean

I see where you are coming from but the CDC has to make those educated decisions and I trust them to do that. They say it is better for the unborn child to have the protection than to be born with Covid which is what is happening when pregnant women contract Covid. It is a very tough call but they are erring on the safe side for Mom and baby. The announcement was made very recently and the CDC is getting out the message that they no longer say it is "OK" for pregnant women to get the vaccine; the CDC is encouraging pregnant women to get the vaccine. They deem these vaccines safe and I'm good with that.

[stanley]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

I see where you are coming from but the CDC has to make those educated decisions and I trust them to do that. They say it is better for the unborn child to have the protection than to be born with Covid which is what is happening when pregnant women contract Covid. It is a very tough call but they are erring on the safe side for Mom and baby. The announcement was made very recently and the CDC is getting out the message that they no longer say it is "OK" for pregnant women to get the vaccine; the CDC is encouraging pregnant women to get the vaccine. They deem these vaccines safe and I'm good with that.

Trust and believe what you want with no research and proof behind their recommendation. I don't. And they didn't say pregnant "women" they said pregnant "people". Very subliminal.

Originally Posted by stanley

Trust and believe what you want with no research and proof behind their recommendation. I don't. And they didn't say pregnant "women" they said pregnant "people". Very subliminal.

True, if they believe men can get pregnant and there are more than two sexes I wouldn’t put much faith in their medical knowledge.