And I'm sure your grand children love you......

Where did you get the information that the previous readings were taken in ten feet of water but recent readings were taken in six inches of water?

According to the NOAA information for the MNBF1 buoy the readings were taken at a depth of 4.9 feet.

Is there an underwater volcano two miles off the Florida Keys? I wanna go see that!

Coral reefs
 

That's one I do a fair bit of pondering about. Had a gap of many years between dives in the Keys and was shocked at the pitiful condition of the corals when I returned a couple of years ago. Have since learned that the die-off is due to some kind of bacteria (or pathogen of some type), but which kind has yet to be figured out.

We first lived in Pompano Beach after retirement so that I could shore dive from our condo. Between about Deerfield Beach and Fort Lauderdale there is reef running parallel to the shoreline starting as little as 100 yards off shore and in water as shallow as 11 feet. Comfy water temps of 85-86° in the summer months allows diving without neoprene. But, last summer I noticed that the temp rose to 87° (part of your dive computer info) for a short stretch and much of the coral soon suddenly bleached white. Interestingly, it all completely recovered in fairly short order. Haven't heard what's happening this summer, but I guess lobster mini-season is currently underway. Tiring of eating lobster is partly why we're here. :-)

My main ponderage, though, is whether the extent of coral reef growth will simply move north as ocean temperatures rise. Maybe folks won't have to drive as far for a dive vacation, eh?

Global warming
 

Good word!!
In the 60's, Global COOLING was the big concern, they feared the "ice cap " was so large it would tip the earth off its axis.
Find out what they did to correct that problem & dial it back a smidgen!

Hot water
 

According to an ABC News article about this it was only one bouy that showed the high temperature. All the others in the same area showed temperatures from 90 to 95 degrees. Could be a malfunctioning bouy.

There was massive bleaching as well on the Great Barrier Reef, Australia.
That has grown back in great abundance, and recovered.

All the buoys in that area show high temperatures peaking on the 24th and 25th. MNBF1 happens to show the highest temperature.

They call it global warming in Summer and then in Winter when there are blizzards they change the terminology to climate change. A very "convenient truth"

A lot. But nothing that is cheap.

Hot water
 

The unusually hot weather we've been having, which meteorologists say is caused by a shift in the jet stream?
It is the surface temperature of the water that's being measured by the bouys.

Now for the rest of the story.....GooooD Day!
 

The MNBF1 buoy is located in 4.9 ft of water according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. This along with the cove like structure that impede tidal activities the water has a tendency to remain warm in this localized area.

Now bear in mind that even a small pool in TV will heat up without circulation. So the take away here is that one marker in the Ocean at a shallow depth may not be a true indicator or the omission of all of the facts leads to incorrect conclusions.

If a person reports there was a bank heist at Citizens First Bank Lake Sumter Landing. Then they report they saw me in the vicinity of Lake Sumter land at or around the time of the heist, that is part of the story. It certainly falsely implies that I was a suspect in the heist. What was conveniently omitted was, the omission that I live in Lake Sumter Landing.

So let's all breath and get all of the facts to properly assess the drivers that go into reporting.

Guuud DAY!!

I truly do not have an ounce of concern over the elimination of fossil issues, according to Sekich, the activist and I want no power the the new bill in DC to eliminate this temp in florida to minnesota. This does not help anyone.

Normal water temperatures for the area this time of year should be between 73F and 88F (23C and 31C), according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (Noaa), not 101. That is all that was reported. 90% of scientists have a theory that explains it. Combine it with melting glaciers, and all the other changes occurring worldwide, and the climate change theory is making reasonably accurate predictions.

Incorrect. 4.9ft is the depth at which the measurement was taken. It is doubtful that anyone would attempt to moor a buoy in less than five feet of water.

The tidal information is given on the buoy data page, it has a tide swing of at least 0.75ft which seems to be typical for that area.

As mentioned in a previous post, all the buoys in that area showed high temperatures peaking on 7/24 and 7/25.

This buoy is not in only 4.9ft of water. This buoy is not in an area with no tidal flow. This was not the only buoy showing peaks, it just happened to be the buoy with the highest peak. One thing we can agree on, it is important to get all the facts.

Bottom line- Florida +July = Hot
Bet next month will be hot as well

NYC Hotter
 

We are in the average realm, while places like NYC are a little cooler this year. Only 6 days this year so far are above 90 in NYC. Normally NYC gets 15 per summer.

Ain't THAT the truth!

They've been saying for years we need to do something but no one wants to believe and inconvenience themselves to save the planet.

They don't change the terminology, it is all global warming causing extreme weather. The deniers refuse to believe it because it would inconvenience them to change anything in their life.

Really, only rich liberals buy multi million dollar ocean front properties in Florida! Did you forget the Trump family????

Sure it's concerning if it were "true." The article is based on data from a National Parks Service water quality buoy in Manatee Bay. It is located just east of US 1 as you head south to the Keys. There are several science problems with this article and others that have been published - the least of which is that NOAA has not validated the data.

I was a NOAA scientist for over a quarter century and when I first saw this "record" reported by Tony Mainolfi of WESH 2, I knew it was very likely erroneous. Yup, I screamed at the TV! Think about it, for those with pools or go to the pools in the Villages - is the water temperature over 100? Over 95? (Maybe more like 90 for a max.) Thermometers in our cars will register 110 F plus in the summer - but is that valid? "It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.”

After looking at a plot of the data - my first thought is that the buoy ran aground or was up-ended and was measuring un-aspirated air temperatures. Marine water temperatures just do not vary 10 F through the day like inland air temperatures do. Also, the "annual record" maximum air temperature from Key West is 97 F (from 1956) - we all know it's cooler by the water.

NDBC - 5-day plot - Water Temperature at MNBF1

Current data looks to me like the buoy is back home in the water and reporting "more accurate" data.

Anyway - yes water temperatures are "abnormally" warm:
https://www.ospo.noaa.gov/data/cb/ss...ly.current.png

But wind shear related to the El Nino / Southern Oscillation (ENSO) is generally more important tropical cyclone intensity.

Speaking of records: My Earth Science textbook from 50 years ago listed the world's record temperature as 136°F on 13 Sept 1922, in Aziziya, Libya. 90 years later, that record was classified as "invalid" by the World Meteorological Society. Just Saying ......

Do you believe that LBSF1, BWSF1, LSNF1, HCEF1, and DKKF1 also ran aground or were upended? They show the same general curve on the same days as MNBF1 and current data also looks to be "more accurate."

Six sensors showing similar temperature profiles make it look like something is happening other than a single upended buoy.

Who would have ever think the ocean could get to 101F. Who would ever of think that it could be over 110F for over 30 days in a row in El Paseo. Who would have ever think that July the earth would have the highest avg temp ever recorded.

There is a positive side to the warming of water in Fl., in 10 years you'll be able to get boiled lobster directly from the ocean.

EDIT: It is interesting to note that on the peak days MNBF1 registered a temperature about six degrees higher than the other buoys. However, today the temperatures are very close. They all would have experienced the same heating and cooling due to the time of day but perhaps something out of the ordinary happened with MNBF1 to cause only that buoy to have the exceptionally high reading.

I totally agree with your comment. It hasn't been that long ago when we discovered the depletion in the ozone layer was caused by chlorofluorocarbons, and by eliminating these man-made substances (I believe the coolant in air conditioners being one of the more problematic causes) the ozone layer has mostly repaired itself, thus reducing the number of victims from skin cancer. We can poo poo the weather being caused by mankind all we want, but I'll have to agree with the weather experts that we are in the midst of global warming and the cause is us.

I am not concerned in the least

All Don’t Agree
 

I agree that there isn’t a consensus on the cause of “climate change”. Many hypotheses are unproven for now. The things we cannot change like the Earth’s orbit, El Niño, brightening of the sun and the axis tilts are the only sure events for the planet. Meanwhile we can just conserve on our own while technology develops into something usable.

Sarcasm at its best.....I hope

Climate change, the new religion. Remember "The coming Ice Age", "Global Warming", and now a rebranded "Climate Change." It is like many political admonitions when proven wrong, change the rhetoric. Meanwhile climate is being used for political purposes while the devastation and human suffering in third world countries supply the "new miracle cures". Solar and wind power production, and electric vehicles are being forced on the world population while the elected and unelected leaders pollute with abandon and buy "carbon credits" to offset their lifestyle and convenience. What a joke. But it is on us. Wake up and smell the roses.

Hot water
 

Moved to Florida for the hot weather and she delivers. Would rather swim in a warm bathtub, than an ice cold pool.

I remember 35 years ago the water in Sanibel Island was 95 degrees. This has been going on for decades and centuries. But we seem to always have folks who won't delve into the actual facts of historical water temps and find it is nothing new. As a poster indicated above, the readings at any given FL body of water is currently in the low 80s.

I think it's funny that Floridians complain about skyrocketing insurance costs on Tuesday and then say I'm not concerned about scary high water temperatures on Wednesday. While next week's conversation will be about a devastating hurricane barreling towards Florida.

It's all tied together folks.... Too many people driving fossil fuel cars / trucks damaging the ozone. It's actually pretty simple.

Thata' boy:a20:

After the Ice age
 

Geological ice ages -- called glacial periods -- are characterised by the development of large ice sheets in the Northern Hemisphere. In the past 700,000 years, phases shifted between distinct glacial and warm periods about every 100,000 years. Before then, however, the Earth's climate was governed by 40,000-year cycles with shorter and weaker glacial periods. The change in the climate cycles occurred in the Middle Pleistocene Transition period, which began approximately 1.2 million years ago and ended about 670,000 years ago.

During this period glaciers were covering North America to where Missouri is today. The ice has been melting and the climate getting warmer for some time (those damn N.A. and their horses and buffalos that are incredibly environmentally destructive with the GHG emissions). But who knew....

water temp
 

Highest in 174 years!!!! What was temp on July 27, 1223 or 345,365 BC?

Umm, both those dates were *slightly* more than 174 years ago and no one was recording temps in the Florida area at that time.

I prefer to think about it this way. f I am wrong, our grandkids get a cleaner planet to enjoy. If deniers are wrong, our grandkids get to live in a horrible world.

I prefer the former outcome and will be happy to apologize to my decendents for leaving a better place for them to live.

Oooo, yeah - I wish I had said that, and I'm serious.

Yes, if only someone, somewhere, would publish information on how we can all help tackle climate change.

Until then I guess I'll have to stick my head in the sand.