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Two Bills 07-27-2023 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by mntlblok (Post 2239198)
That's one I do a fair bit of pondering about. Had a gap of many years between dives in the Keys and was shocked at the pitiful condition of the corals when I returned a couple of years ago. Have since learned that the die-off is due to some kind of bacteria (or pathogen of some type), but which kind has yet to be figured out.

We first lived in Pompano Beach after retirement so that I could shore dive from our condo. Between about Deerfield Beach and Fort Lauderdale there is reef running parallel to the shoreline starting as little as 100 yards off shore and in water as shallow as 11 feet. Comfy water temps of 85-86° in the summer months allows diving without neoprene. But, last summer I noticed that the temp rose to 87° (part of your dive computer info) for a short stretch and much of the coral soon suddenly bleached white. Interestingly, it all completely recovered in fairly short order. Haven't heard what's happening this summer, but I guess lobster mini-season is currently underway. Tiring of eating lobster is partly why we're here. :-)

My main ponderage, though, is whether the extent of coral reef growth will simply move north as ocean temperatures rise. Maybe folks won't have to drive as far for a dive vacation, eh?

There was massive bleaching as well on the Great Barrier Reef, Australia.
That has grown back in great abundance, and recovered.

Bill14564 07-27-2023 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Cliff Fr (Post 2239203)
According to an ABC News article about this it was only one bouy that showed the high temperature. All the others in the same area showed temperatures from 90 to 95 degrees. Could be a malfunctioning bouy.

All the buoys in that area show high temperatures peaking on the 24th and 25th. MNBF1 happens to show the highest temperature.

Golfer222 07-27-2023 10:26 AM

They call it global warming in Summer and then in Winter when there are blizzards they change the terminology to climate change. A very "convenient truth"

Frajiit 07-27-2023 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2239092)
Exactly, what can anyone do about it?

A lot. But nothing that is cheap.

Cliff Fr 07-27-2023 11:11 AM

Hot water
 
The unusually hot weather we've been having, which meteorologists say is caused by a shift in the jet stream?
It is the surface temperature of the water that's being measured by the bouys.

bcsnave 07-27-2023 11:20 AM

Now for the rest of the story.....GooooD Day!
 
The MNBF1 buoy is located in 4.9 ft of water according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. This along with the cove like structure that impede tidal activities the water has a tendency to remain warm in this localized area.

Now bear in mind that even a small pool in TV will heat up without circulation. So the take away here is that one marker in the Ocean at a shallow depth may not be a true indicator or the omission of all of the facts leads to incorrect conclusions.

If a person reports there was a bank heist at Citizens First Bank Lake Sumter Landing. Then they report they saw me in the vicinity of Lake Sumter land at or around the time of the heist, that is part of the story. It certainly falsely implies that I was a suspect in the heist. What was conveniently omitted was, the omission that I live in Lake Sumter Landing.

So let's all breath and get all of the facts to properly assess the drivers that go into reporting.

Guuud DAY!!

Marsha11 07-27-2023 11:52 AM

I truly do not have an ounce of concern over the elimination of fossil issues, according to Sekich, the activist and I want no power the the new bill in DC to eliminate this temp in florida to minnesota. This does not help anyone.

Frajiit 07-27-2023 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by bcsnave (Post 2239231)
The MNBF1 buoy is located in 4.9 ft of water according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. This along with the cove like structure that impede tidal activities the water has a tendency to remain warm in this localized area.

Now bear in mind that even a small pool in TV will heat up without circulation. So the take away here is that one marker in the Ocean at a shallow depth may not be a true indicator or the omission of all of the facts leads to incorrect conclusions.

If a person reports there was a bank heist at Citizens First Bank Lake Sumter Landing. Then they report they saw me in the vicinity of Lake Sumter land at or around the time of the heist, that is part of the story. It certainly falsely implies that I was a suspect in the heist. What was conveniently omitted was, the omission that I live in Lake Sumter Landing.

So let's all breath and get all of the facts to properly assess the drivers that go into reporting.

Guuud DAY!!

Normal water temperatures for the area this time of year should be between 73F and 88F (23C and 31C), according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (Noaa), not 101. That is all that was reported. 90% of scientists have a theory that explains it. Combine it with melting glaciers, and all the other changes occurring worldwide, and the climate change theory is making reasonably accurate predictions.

Bill14564 07-27-2023 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bcsnave (Post 2239231)
The MNBF1 buoy is located in 4.9 ft of water according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. This along with the cove like structure that impede tidal activities the water has a tendency to remain warm in this localized area.

Now bear in mind that even a small pool in TV will heat up without circulation. So the take away here is that one marker in the Ocean at a shallow depth may not be a true indicator or the omission of all of the facts leads to incorrect conclusions.

If a person reports there was a bank heist at Citizens First Bank Lake Sumter Landing. Then they report they saw me in the vicinity of Lake Sumter land at or around the time of the heist, that is part of the story. It certainly falsely implies that I was a suspect in the heist. What was conveniently omitted was, the omission that I live in Lake Sumter Landing.

So let's all breath and get all of the facts to properly assess the drivers that go into reporting.

Guuud DAY!!

Incorrect. 4.9ft is the depth at which the measurement was taken. It is doubtful that anyone would attempt to moor a buoy in less than five feet of water.

The tidal information is given on the buoy data page, it has a tide swing of at least 0.75ft which seems to be typical for that area.

As mentioned in a previous post, all the buoys in that area showed high temperatures peaking on 7/24 and 7/25.

This buoy is not in only 4.9ft of water. This buoy is not in an area with no tidal flow. This was not the only buoy showing peaks, it just happened to be the buoy with the highest peak. One thing we can agree on, it is important to get all the facts.

Golfer222 07-27-2023 12:24 PM

Bottom line- Florida +July = Hot
Bet next month will be hot as well

Normal 07-27-2023 01:15 PM

NYC Hotter
 
We are in the average realm, while places like NYC are a little cooler this year. Only 6 days this year so far are above 90 in NYC. Normally NYC gets 15 per summer.

ThirdOfFive 07-27-2023 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Blueblaze (Post 2239186)
EVER? Does that count the time Florida was part of the Atlantic Ocean and Dinosaurs ruled the Earth?

Or just the last 50 years since we've taken the temp with satellites? Or do you mean the last 100 years since we started measuring the ocean with thermometers? Seems like a pretty short "ever"!

Funny, though. Most of the previous "records" seem to be from the 1930's -- before most of the world discovered automobiles and air conditioning, and we started making up names for hurricanes.

Any guesses as to what caused 1932 to be such a hot year? Or how about that giant hurricane that wiped Galveston from the map in 1900 and killed 12,000 people? Was that because the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere exceeded 0.4% from all the horse flatulence before cars were invented?

I have to admit, the level of horse and bull emissions seems to be much higher these days!

Ain't THAT the truth!

mraines 07-27-2023 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager (Post 2238941)
This is starting to get a little concerning especially with the hurricane season getting ready to ramp up....

Florida just had the hottest recorded ocean temperature. Here’s what that means for the environment

They've been saying for years we need to do something but no one wants to believe and inconvenience themselves to save the planet.

mraines 07-27-2023 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Golfer222 (Post 2239214)
They call it global warming in Summer and then in Winter when there are blizzards they change the terminology to climate change. A very "convenient truth"

They don't change the terminology, it is all global warming causing extreme weather. The deniers refuse to believe it because it would inconvenience them to change anything in their life.

LuvNH 07-27-2023 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Escape Artist (Post 2239314)
I’ll worry about it when rich liberals stop buying multi-million dollar ocean front properties in Florida.

Really, only rich liberals buy multi million dollar ocean front properties in Florida! Did you forget the Trump family????


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