Originally Posted by Marykschulz (Post 1801470)

I trust the scientists. Tell the folks in AZ and TX it’s all a media hoax. Tell all the medical personnel who are again experiencing shortages of PPE it’s all a hoax. Good luck to you if you believe it’s all a hoax.

Originally Posted by E Cascade (Post 1801996)

How do we send someone a private reply? Seems like we have lost that ability. If you see how to do that, please reply to me so I will get it. Thx.

Originally Posted by nick demis (Post 1801492)

What I would like to know is how many deaths are caused by Covid as opposed to how many death occurred where the patient also had Covid. Someone that dies of a stroke that also has heart disease, doesn't mean he died of heart disease.

Originally Posted by justjim (Post 1801566)

Media gets it wrong when the data they receive is wrong (And mistakes are occasionally made) but to say they are spreading lies is a stretch. A free press is necessary for a democracy. Freedom of the press is one of the rights protected by the First Amendment same as freedom of speech, right to assemble, freedom of religion, etc.

Originally Posted by maggie1 (Post 1801862)

My feelings exactly! I don't believe the physicians and nurses that show signs of exhaustion, and complain about not having ample supplies, and are holding the hands of the patients while they die, are giving us fake information.

Originally Posted by crash (Post 1801904)

We are definitely not getting all the info. They fired the lady who did the dashboard because she would not manipulate the data as DeSantis ordered.

Originally Posted by ffresh (Post 1802052)

Another viewpoint:

New York Undercover Nurse Confirms COVID-19 Criminal Hoax

Fred

Originally Posted by Barborv (Post 1801505)

Our friends daughter is a doctor and she was working in Elmhurst hospital in Queens NY. She said they had to line up all the body bags behind the hospital because they were over loaded. She was working the Covid wards. Three people I know personally lost loved ones due to Covid. I still see far too many people not wearing masks in public places . Just heard that the Publix at Southern Trace had 2 employees test positive .

Originally Posted by Edjkoz (Post 1801231)

The media cannot be trusted to deliver news because it’s no longer their job. Their job is to sell advertising. By keeping us in fear and divided they hav determined that we will watch, listen or read more news thereby increasing their ad revenue

Originally Posted by Bonnevie (Post 1802061)

that site is just as biased in the opposite direction as the one you rail against.

Originally Posted by bobnyce (Post 1802078)

No one can trust the media. Most of them are incompetent fools who are photogenic morons! Sorry, but this opinion is based on over 35 years of public service where media reporting got it wrong or purposely mislead the public. I can only laugh when I hear the improper use of the English language by supposed "trained" reporters! Don't trust - verify! My two cents.

Originally Posted by ffresh (Post 1801997)

YES, we all know scientists never have an agenda. And, even if they did, they certainly would never lie :ohdear:


Fred

Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1801931)

This isn't very complicated or hard to understand. There were 120 death certificates turned in on July 9. The death certificates have the date the person actually died. To actually know what is happening you need to have a chart that shows actual date of death, this way you can see what the actual trend is. When a newspaper puts up a headline screaming "deadliest day ever" it's a lie. 120 people did not die on July 9.

Here is how the 120 deaths were allocated properly to the actual date of death.

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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1801220)

Sounds scary doesn't it? But it's a flat out lie meant to scare you. Panic Porn

That's the headline the Orlando Sentinel went with today, and they opened the story with this.

Florida reported 120 new COVID-19 fatalities on Thursday — the single biggest daily increase — pushing the death toll past 4,000 and coming after weeks of exploding coronavirus cases across the state.


Florida reports 120 COVID-19 fatalities, its deadliest day of pandemic - Orlando Sentinel

Here is the graph they presented charting Florida deaths.

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Wow...very scary, deaths are rising must be that surge of new cases.

The problem with the Sentinel's headline and chart is there were only 9 deaths from covid 19 on Thursday. The rest of the 120 deaths were from previous dates and to make a correct chart you have to backfill reported deaths to the date they actually happened. I am pretty sure they know this but 120 deaths in a single day just makes for great panic porn headlines.

Here is a correct chart with deaths listed on the actual day they happened.

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So far total of 135 deaths in July for Florida. This number will rise as deaths by actual date are backfilled. It takes time for deaths to be coded at hospitals, sent to the county, then the State and CDC.

It's unfortunate that we can't trust media reports on just about anything.