[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by sallybowron

............... Tom Hanks and his wife had it way back. Now he is not releasing his new movie to theatres but will put it out streaming. He always looked in good shape to me.0
.............:

Tom Hanks has Type 2 Diabetes. He is a lucky man to have come through Covid as well as he did.

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by blueash

This is getting really sad. You continue to post that the 120 is wrong because only 9 people died that day.

You have no idea how many people died that day because the death certificates are still pending for almost every person who died that day.

Never said the 120 deaths reported was wrong. Just pointed out that most of them happened in previous months all the way back to April.

You have no idea how many people that actually died on July 9 either. So far we know of nine. The Sentinel headline and chart are misleading because they make it look like they all happened on July 9. As more deaths are backfilled from future deaths, we'll know the real number and actual trend.

What is sad is people who insist panic porn headlines and graphs are real.

120 people were reported to have died on that day. Date of reported death is a completely valid metric. It is used by every single agency nationally and internationally to track COVID. You can post all you like about how reporting it is misleading, but it is your attempt to claim the statistic itself is misleading that is errant

Nope, 120 death certs came in on that day, they died on multiple days going back to all the way to April. Not on July 9.

Florida does not use reported day of deaths for the dashboard, they use actual date of death numbers like any sane person would.

Here's a snapshot of todays graph, and look, they now have 21 deaths for July 9. Yesterday it had 9. It is updated daily to show actual date of death numbers. Most of those 120 were backfilled to June. This is how it's done correctly, not the bogus graph the Sentinel used for it's panic porn article. So I guess reported day of deaths are not used by "every single agency" to track covid deaths. That would be insane.

[Snorkl46]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

Never said the 120 deaths reported was wrong. Just pointed out that most of them happened in previous months all the way back to April.

You have no idea how many people that actually died on July 9 either. So far we know of nine. The Sentinel headline and chart are misleading because they make it look like they all happened on July 9. As more deaths are backfilled from future deaths, we'll know the real number and actual trend.

What is sad is people who insist panic porn headlines and graphs are real.

If you look at the daily counts published by the Florida Department of Health, 751 people have been reported to die of Covid in July to date. Whether they passed in June or July, that's a dramatic rise in deaths. Also, Sumter county had been averaging 2 or 3 new cases per week. We are now averaging 20 to 30 new ones per day. That also is according to the Florida DOH.

[Jacob85]

It’s so interesting how people quibble over the numbers. Only this many people died or got the virus! I think it somehow makes them feel better that maybe they won’t get it. The bottom line is Most of the people in the villages are over the age and have underlying conditions. If there are any cases here at all it’s very contagious so would be good to stop minimizing the numbers and wear masks, social distance, don’t gather in groups and wash hands often! These things will keep you safer not playing games with the numbers and then going out and acting like it is not here!

[bhassett123]

Let's talk facts and numbers and forget the politics of this horrible pandemic. So I would say, at least where I am near Lake Deaton, there has been a lot more testing from the lines at the local Walgreens over the last two or more weeks. That is great; the more that are getting tested the better. It would be expected that there would be a correlating increase in positives. To report a spike in case would be false if this were the case.

My question is, do these statics that are being surfaced show the number of testing to compared to the number of positives OR is it just well, we got more positives in the area and that is what is being reported? Also, how are deaths being calculated? Just how many have died? More to the point, what percentage of tested and positive have died.

Please don't forget to quote your sources of information to be fair to everyone.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by billethkid

On the old version just right click the name in the upper left corner.
I cannot speak for the new version.

Works the same for the new version. I just tried it on my iPhone while using the new version.

[yankygrl]

I personally think that the % of those with the virus (positive tests) versus the number tested is what we should be looking at. Yes the number of deaths should also be %. I think we were at 5% prior to July 4th, then a surge and now the number is more like 12 - 15% of new positive cases. Still it is effecting mostly those UNDER 40.

[JoMar]

Originally Posted by yankygrl

I personally think that the % of those with the virus (positive tests) versus the number tested is what we should be looking at. Yes the number of deaths should also be %. I think we were at 5% prior to July 4th, then a surge and now the number is more like 12 - 15% of new positive cases. Still it is effecting mostly those UNDER 40.

And that means what? Northern states have restricted our travel, Atlanta has gone back to stay at home, hospitalizations are up and available ICU beds are dropping and that's not just a Florida issue. So if your stats make you somehow feel better then go for it, reality is that most other folks in the Country believe there is an issue, some are taking steps to try and roll back the spread. Statistics and percentages won't keep you safe, your actions could.

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by Snorkl46

If you look at the daily counts published by the Florida Department of Health, 751 people have been reported to die of Covid in July to date. Whether they passed in June or July, that's a dramatic rise in deaths. Also, Sumter county had been averaging 2 or 3 new cases per week. We are now averaging 20 to 30 new ones per day. That also is according to the Florida DOH.

So far in July, 474 have died in Florida, you can add them up on the graph with death by dates (grey bars) Just hover cursor over each bar and you get date followed by number of deaths.

Experience

[mneumann02]

Originally Posted by Slapnut

I heard that last year there were 1 and a half million deaths from tuberculosis but no masks for that. The death rate from this so called pandemic is one hundredth of one percent. It's a scare tactic that I am sick and tired of hearing about. It's about control. If the government can scare us into controlling what we do and how we live then we will become a dictatorship. We really need to stand up to these idiots and let them know that we won't take it anymore

I apologize for the untrue statements in this post. Only idiots believe this stuff. The death rate worldwide is about 5%. If you believe this pandemic is a scam, suggest all you non-believers volunteer at our care facilities and relieve those on the front lines who are dying while treating the scam patients.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Slapnut

I heard that last year there were 1 and a half million deaths from tuberculosis but no masks for that. The death rate from this so called pandemic is one hundredth of one percent. It's a scare tactic that I am sick and tired of hearing about. It's about control. If the government can scare us into controlling what we do and how we live then we will become a dictatorship. We really need to stand up to these idiots and let them know that we won't take it anymore

Please provide a link with those statistics. Did you make those numbers up?

The latest stats I have found are for 2018 . No where near what you quoted.

This is what I found when I Googled the information........

TB Incidence in the U.S. | Data & Statistics | TB | CDC

[Bonnevie]

[QUOTE=yankygrl;1802230]I personally think that the % of those with the virus (positive tests) versus the number tested is what we should be looking at. Yes the number of deaths should also be %. I think we were at 5% prior to July 4th, then a surge and now the number is more like 12 - 15% of new positive cases. Still it is effecting mostly those UNDER 40.[/

so it's affecting mostly those under 40. you mean the people who wait on us at Publix, or restaurants or any number of different places? so we don't have to worry about catching it from them? again, I say if there was no worry, then The Villages would be allowing more activities. they are not! they know what a disaster it would be if this becomes a hot spot. then you can quibble all you want about whether the death numbers are accurate because the two local hospitals will be over run with very sick covid patients. make no mistake, that is a major fear of the powers that be.

[billethkid]

In March/April when numbers were beginning to rise there was talk every day by POTUS/Governors what we had to do to "flatten the curve".
Including taking such drastic measures a literally shutting down the economy.
Daily reporting of progress made or not. Showing other states/countries that are making progress because.......
or not because........

Now with the rising numbers supposedly breaking records every day.....where/what is the objective.

Pretty please wear a mask....if you don't that's OK.
Please social distance....if you don't that's OK too.
If they don't do the above they certainly don't wash their hands or avoid touching their face.

Many in authority say there will be no shut down again.

So what level of infection/death has those in authority deemed to be acceptable?

Have we not passed the level where those in authority should contemplate...... state OK enough is enough. Then mandate AND ENFORCE masks and social distancing.

[Slapnut]

It's not a hoax but the death rate is .01 of 1 percent. Last year alone over 1 and a half million people died of tuberculosis. We're there any mask mandates for this. No, this is a scare tactic to control people like you. If you're scared stay inside. This is the media blowing this all out of proportion

[TooColdNJ]

Originally Posted by Leadbone1

The current day media cannot be trusted about anything they say. It’s not just exaggeration. They blatantly lie to the public every day.

I am so tired of hearing that! They do not blatantly lie to the public every day. People who feel that way do so because the media doesn’t AGREE with what they believe. Lies are outright deceptions. Lies are “I never said that,” or “ i never did that,” when there’s evidence that someone really did.

The police department will never be defunded, and that horrible 911 political ad is meant to scare people into believing that’s what the left wants. Most people who don’t know any better don’t take the time to watch anything other than FOX news or read about some of the programs and plans on the left. If they did, maybe they’d at least be more educated and knowledgeable, and realize that isn’t the case.

No matter what news reports it, the media provides facts about things everyone can see and even judge for themselves, while others keep their blinders on and their minds closed. .

You say we’re being lied to; the media lies; anything they report about trump is a lie, even if we see and hear it with our own eyes and ears. The only BELIEVABLE news comes from FOX, and everyone else is out to get you. Hmmmm...who does that sound like?