Originally Posted by Windguy (Post 2304627)

Seriously? I guess you’ve lived a charmed life. I have had cars do that to me, but I’ve never seen a cyclist tempt fate by forcing me to perform emergency maneuvers as you imply. Any cyclist that does something so foolish isn’t doing that because they are cyclists, but because they are fools. Cyclists that do that regularly are not long for this world.

Please stop painting people with a broad brush.

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2304614)

I have never had a car blow through a stop sign when I was close enough that I had to hit the brakes to avoid a collision. I *HAVE* had bicyclists do this to me, and I *HAVE* seen it happen to others.

(NOTE: Certainly not all bicyclists do this but it occurs often enough to be noticeable)

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2304630)

It appears you are discussing customs rather than laws. From what I can find, passing on the right is legal in both Connecticut and New York under conditions similar to those in Florida. I suspect that passing on the right under those conditions is legal in most (all?) states. Customs, of course, vary.

Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2304478)

They do a much better job of staying right on restricted access highways in Europe and it is illegal to pass on the right

Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2304359)

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. - A bill that seeks to prevent motorists from cruising in left lanes of highways is headed to Gov. Ron DeSantis.

The Senate on Thursday voted 37-0 to pass the bill (HB 317), which would apply to drivers on highways with at least two lanes in the same direction and speed limits of 65 mph or higher.

The House voted 113-3 last week to pass the bill. Senate sponsor Keith Perry, R-Gainesville, said the measure is intended to improve highway safety.

"If someone in the left lane is going slower, and you pass them (on the right), you are creating an infraction and you can get ticketed," Perry said.

Under HB 317, drivers on a road, street or highway "with two or more lanes" where the speed limit is "at least 65 miles per hour... may not operate a motor vehicle in the furthermost left-hand lane, except when overtaking and passing another vehicle; when preparing to exit... or when otherwise directed by an official traffic control device."

The purpose of the bill is to make it clear when motorists can use the left lane.

The bill's sponsor said he wanted to prevent drivers from using the right lane to pass slower-moving traffic using the left lane.

The bill sets non-criminal moving violation fines of up to $158.

Gov. Ron DeSantis said Friday he will talk with law enforcement officials before deciding whether to sign the bill, according to News Service of Florida.

During an appearance Friday in Pensacola, DeSantis said he wants to hear the practical implications to law officers of enforcing the measure, which would apply to drivers on highways with at least two lanes in the same direction and speed limits of 65 mph or higher. “Are we going to be pulling people over for that? How would that work?” DeSantis said.

He added, "So, I'm going to actually talk to people that do this for a living, whether they think it would be a benefit, both in terms of safety but also we want convenience. We want people to be able to get where they can go as quickly and as safely as possible. But then also enforcement, is that going to radically change how they (officers) do their job, in terms of enforcement?"

Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2304359)

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. - A bill that seeks to prevent motorists from cruising in left lanes of highways is headed to Gov. Ron DeSantis.

The Senate on Thursday voted 37-0 to pass the bill (HB 317), which would apply to drivers on highways with at least two lanes in the same direction and speed limits of 65 mph or higher.

The House voted 113-3 last week to pass the bill. Senate sponsor Keith Perry, R-Gainesville, said the measure is intended to improve highway safety.

"If someone in the left lane is going slower, and you pass them (on the right), you are creating an infraction and you can get ticketed," Perry said.

Under HB 317, drivers on a road, street or highway "with two or more lanes" where the speed limit is "at least 65 miles per hour... may not operate a motor vehicle in the furthermost left-hand lane, except when overtaking and passing another vehicle; when preparing to exit... or when otherwise directed by an official traffic control device."

The purpose of the bill is to make it clear when motorists can use the left lane.

The bill's sponsor said he wanted to prevent drivers from using the right lane to pass slower-moving traffic using the left lane.

The bill sets non-criminal moving violation fines of up to $158.

Gov. Ron DeSantis said Friday he will talk with law enforcement officials before deciding whether to sign the bill, according to News Service of Florida.

During an appearance Friday in Pensacola, DeSantis said he wants to hear the practical implications to law officers of enforcing the measure, which would apply to drivers on highways with at least two lanes in the same direction and speed limits of 65 mph or higher. “Are we going to be pulling people over for that? How would that work?” DeSantis said.

He added, "So, I'm going to actually talk to people that do this for a living, whether they think it would be a benefit, both in terms of safety but also we want convenience. We want people to be able to get where they can go as quickly and as safely as possible. But then also enforcement, is that going to radically change how they (officers) do their job, in terms of enforcement?"

Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2304359)

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. - A bill that seeks to prevent motorists from cruising in left lanes of highways is headed to Gov. Ron DeSantis.

The Senate on Thursday voted 37-0 to pass the bill (HB 317), which would apply to drivers on highways with at least two lanes in the same direction and speed limits of 65 mph or higher.

The House voted 113-3 last week to pass the bill. Senate sponsor Keith Perry, R-Gainesville, said the measure is intended to improve highway safety.

"If someone in the left lane is going slower, and you pass them (on the right), you are creating an infraction and you can get ticketed," Perry said.

Under HB 317, drivers on a road, street or highway "with two or more lanes" where the speed limit is "at least 65 miles per hour... may not operate a motor vehicle in the furthermost left-hand lane, except when overtaking and passing another vehicle; when preparing to exit... or when otherwise directed by an official traffic control device."

The purpose of the bill is to make it clear when motorists can use the left lane.

The bill's sponsor said he wanted to prevent drivers from using the right lane to pass slower-moving traffic using the left lane.

The bill sets non-criminal moving violation fines of up to $158.

Gov. Ron DeSantis said Friday he will talk with law enforcement officials before deciding whether to sign the bill, according to News Service of Florida.

During an appearance Friday in Pensacola, DeSantis said he wants to hear the practical implications to law officers of enforcing the measure, which would apply to drivers on highways with at least two lanes in the same direction and speed limits of 65 mph or higher. “Are we going to be pulling people over for that? How would that work?” DeSantis said.

He added, "So, I'm going to actually talk to people that do this for a living, whether they think it would be a benefit, both in terms of safety but also we want convenience. We want people to be able to get where they can go as quickly and as safely as possible. But then also enforcement, is that going to radically change how they (officers) do their job, in terms of enforcement?"

Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2304364)

Huh? Based on other TOTV threads, I understood that this was already the law. But, it sounds like the law is being downgraded to only apply to the Turnpike and the Interstate, where speed limits are 65 mph or higher.

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2304616)

Coming to Florida I was pretty surprised that passing on the right, on a 2-lane highway, was common and acceptable. Up north, a 2-lane highway's right lane is the travel/exit lane, and the left lane is the passing lane. If you're not planning on passing someone, you get back to the right lane. If you want to pass someone in the right lane, you move to the left lane and pass them.

On a three lane highway, the right lane is the "local" lane - for entering and exiting the highway and for people who want to drive slower than the rest of traffic. The middle lane is the through-lane, and the left lane is the passing lane.

It was this way in Boston, and Connecticut, and New York, New Jersey - pretty much everywhere. It applied only to highways that had exits, not to 2-lane state roads with cross streets.

And obviously if the left lane was backed up due to an accident, everyone shifted over to the right. But when traffic's moving, you pass on the left, cruise in the center or right if there's no center lane.

On highways where there are 4 lanes going in the same direction, the left-most lane is still passing only. Right lane is local (enter and exit), and the center two lanes are for cruising.

No idea why Florida never caught up with this concept, considering how many accidents there are on the highways down here.

Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2304359)

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. - A bill that seeks to prevent motorists from cruising in left lanes of highways is headed to Gov. Ron DeSantis.

The Senate on Thursday voted 37-0 to pass the bill (HB 317), which would apply to drivers on highways with at least two lanes in the same direction and speed limits of 65 mph or higher.

The House voted 113-3 last week to pass the bill. Senate sponsor Keith Perry, R-Gainesville, said the measure is intended to improve highway safety.

"If someone in the left lane is going slower, and you pass them (on the right), you are creating an infraction and you can get ticketed," Perry said.

Under HB 317, drivers on a road, street or highway "with two or more lanes" where the speed limit is "at least 65 miles per hour... may not operate a motor vehicle in the furthermost left-hand lane, except when overtaking and passing another vehicle; when preparing to exit... or when otherwise directed by an official traffic control device."

The purpose of the bill is to make it clear when motorists can use the left lane.

The bill's sponsor said he wanted to prevent drivers from using the right lane to pass slower-moving traffic using the left lane.

The bill sets non-criminal moving violation fines of up to $158.

Gov. Ron DeSantis said Friday he will talk with law enforcement officials before deciding whether to sign the bill, according to News Service of Florida.

During an appearance Friday in Pensacola, DeSantis said he wants to hear the practical implications to law officers of enforcing the measure, which would apply to drivers on highways with at least two lanes in the same direction and speed limits of 65 mph or higher. “Are we going to be pulling people over for that? How would that work?” DeSantis said.

He added, "So, I'm going to actually talk to people that do this for a living, whether they think it would be a benefit, both in terms of safety but also we want convenience. We want people to be able to get where they can go as quickly and as safely as possible. But then also enforcement, is that going to radically change how they (officers) do their job, in terms of enforcement?"

Originally Posted by srswans (Post 2304553)

I want to hear more about if I will get ticketed for passing on the right. Drivers need to be able to pass on the right because, even with this new law, there will be ppl camping in the left lanes.

Originally Posted by Robojo (Post 2304692)

Did I grow up in a different world? Keep right except to
pass has always been the law. It’s just not been enforced in decades.

Originally Posted by RcCalais (Post 2304676)

Why waste money on a bill for something like this. As mentioned, this seems to water down the already known. It is just as aggravating getting behind a slow driver with a speed limit of 45 as it is for 65 mph.

Originally Posted by Oneiric (Post 2304743)

Many decades ago, my state with a lot more traffic had signs which read: "Keep right except to pass". Worked very well.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2304536)

Answer to first part of question: It achieves the goal of keeping slugs out of the left lane at 55 mph in a 70 zone, which in turn increases safety because everyone won't have a mad dash to get around them on the right.

Second part: It applies to all vehicles. And on most highways with 3 lanes trucks are totally barred from the left lane anyway.

Originally Posted by Switter (Post 2304790)

How about they focus on enforcing the speed limit first? I drive 70 on the turnpike and people pass me like I am standing still. Sure, the cars are much better at handling high speeds but human reaction times drop off significantly at a certain speed. Also, one of the main reasons everyone's insurance rates are climbing is because reckless (speeder) and distracted drivers, not to mention the increase in traffic fatalities. People are driving too fast relative to their reaction times being able to respond to an unexpected situation.

Someone driving in the left lane is annoying but rarely does it kill people. It's the impatient people who weave in and out of traffic at high speeds who endanger everyone around them.

Besides, if they are barely enforcing the speed limit, what makes anyone think they're gonna enforce this?

Originally Posted by Windguy (Post 2304599)

Why do people keep making absurd statements like this? Cyclists don’t do this any more than drivers do. Why do you single out the cyclists for your anger and derision?

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2304536)

Answer to first part of question: It achieves the goal of keeping slugs out of the left lane at 55 mph in a 70 zone, which in turn increases safety because everyone won't have a mad dash to get around them on the right.

Second part: It applies to all vehicles. And on most highways with 3 lanes trucks are totally barred from the left lane anyway.

Originally Posted by MrChip72 (Post 2304818)

I think a better law would be to make it unlawful to not pull over into the right lane when there's a car (or several cars) from behind going at a higher speed. On an average trip to Orlando I have to pass someone on the right at least a few times.

Originally Posted by Pugchief (Post 2304800)

LOL. 4 pages of comments, mostly regarding enforcement or not. Off topic, but since lame drivers are going to be lame whether or not the police enforce existing laws let alone proposed ones, my preference would be for the police to enforce actual crimes instead of traffic violations. Some that come to mind are shoplifting, robbery and assault.

Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2304909)

OK, now we need a law against driving golf carts well below the 20 MPH speed limit on the MMP’s and then speeding up when someone attempts to pass.

Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2304909)

OK, now we need a law against driving golf carts well below the 20 MPH speed limit on the MMP’s and then speeding up when someone attempts to pass. Also, a law against holding a cell phone in one’s hands while driving would be a wonderful thing. Put the dam thing down while driving and pull over if you can’t resist the temptation/addiction of constantly looking at it.

Originally Posted by TOMTOFVIL (Post 2305465)

That is the law in Colorado and I do not like it. Driving in right lane is risky with cars entering the Interstate at high speeds

Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2305094)

My gps directed me to Dr appointment by rt75 to Ocala never got over 50mph left or right lane