Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 1984212)

Closing the border gates does not seem to be reducing the amount of illegals entering. Yes, the border is open.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1984280)

Not likely. From Politifact

information from Global Research, a Canadian website run by the Centre for Research on Globalization, which was accused by NATO of posting conspiracy theories, spreading Russian disinformation and undermining Western media.

The post specifically looks at vaccines from Pfizer/BioNTech, Moderna and AstraZeneca, offering a breakdown of the different injuries and deaths purportedly associated with each vaccine using numbers from a European Union-maintained database called EudraVigilance.

The implication is the COVID-19 vaccines are harmful and could result in injury or death.

However, the numbers are taken out of context to exaggerate the risk of vaccines.

The EudraVigilance database itself cautions the information it collects is for "suspected side effects ... but which are not necessarily related to our caused by the medicine."

"Information on suspected side effects should not be interpreted as meaning that the medicine or the active substance causes the observed effect or is unsafe to use," EudraVigilance’s website says. "Only a detailed evaluation and scientific assessment of all available data allows for robust conclusions to be drawn on the benefits and risks of a medicine."

Taking the raw data of possible COVID-19 vaccination reactions at face value and using them without context is an oft-used tactic by people attempting to undermine public confidence in the vaccines, according to the New York Times. They frequently interpret the numbers from EudraVigilance or from its United States counterpart, the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, as evidence of the vaccines’ dangers.:

Originally Posted by drducat (Post 1984298)

All that data is just garbage until edited then...ok

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1984280)

Not likely. From Politifact

information from Global Research, a Canadian website run by the Centre for Research on Globalization, which was accused by NATO of posting conspiracy theories, spreading Russian disinformation and undermining Western media.

The post specifically looks at vaccines from Pfizer/BioNTech, Moderna and AstraZeneca, offering a breakdown of the different injuries and deaths purportedly associated with each vaccine using numbers from a European Union-maintained database called EudraVigilance.

The implication is the COVID-19 vaccines are harmful and could result in injury or death.

However, the numbers are taken out of context to exaggerate the risk of vaccines.

The EudraVigilance database itself cautions the information it collects is for "suspected side effects ... but which are not necessarily related to our caused by the medicine."

"Information on suspected side effects should not be interpreted as meaning that the medicine or the active substance causes the observed effect or is unsafe to use," EudraVigilance’s website says. "Only a detailed evaluation and scientific assessment of all available data allows for robust conclusions to be drawn on the benefits and risks of a medicine."

Taking the raw data of possible COVID-19 vaccination reactions at face value and using them without context is an oft-used tactic by people attempting to undermine public confidence in the vaccines, according to the New York Times. They frequently interpret the numbers from EudraVigilance or from its United States counterpart, the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, as evidence of the vaccines’ dangers.:

Originally Posted by Ben Franklin (Post 1984289)

When you go to the border and take an unedited video, then I might believe you.

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1984281)

Well THAT took a while!

The link takes you to the OPENVAERS website which performs pulls and summarizes the data. The website shows 11,904 deaths which is much higher than expected.

Took some time to track that down and match it to the VAERS date. The OPENVAERS website is showing deaths from the entire world, not just the US (about 5,600 reported).

Putting aside the significant correlation/causation question, *IF* these could be attributed to the vaccine then:

11,904 deaths out of 4.32B doses gives a vaccine death rate of 0.000276%
4,262,000 deaths out of 201,000,000 cases gives a covid death rate of 2.12%

You are 7,700 times more likely to die from covid than from being vaccinated.

Originally Posted by drducat (Post 1984303)

Phizer just finished it's study and nervous system disorders numbers are in the 130,000 ish range ....not sure why.

Originally Posted by Lindsyburnsy (Post 1983989)

With soaring COVID cases and hospitalizations, the Governor thinks now is a good time to withdraw funding from schools if they mandate masks? First of all, it is the kids money, not his and secondly punishment for attempting to prevent disease? What a political clown.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1984256)

How about we vote on illegal immigration as part of the next election!

Originally Posted by jcaspary (Post 1984356)

Please go back to New York and your great Governor

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1984256)

How about we vote on illegal immigration as part of the next election!

Originally Posted by Lindsyburnsy (Post 1983989)

With soaring COVID cases and hospitalizations, the Governor thinks now is a good time to withdraw funding from schools if they mandate masks? First of all, it is the kids money, not his and secondly punishment for attempting to prevent disease? What a political clown.

Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 1984360)

How about ENFORCING the existing laws which state that it is ILLEGAL to enter our country without going through an entry point? How about we charge employers with a crime if they hire illegal aliens? My family was inoculated at Ellis Island when they immigrated to America. It was a requirement. What changed?

Originally Posted by Cobullymom (Post 1983886)

I had Covid and I wasn’t vaccinated, and I’m not young, nor old, nor dead, I’m actually doing fine…people and their fear mongering…never ends

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 1984180)

Just a tad late...

Plus, many have been refusing vaccinations...