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Danz654 07-02-2020 09:00 AM
Sure they didn’t mean 45

Snowprint 07-02-2020 09:00 AM
Since the police are in charge of the statistics, it’s not a valid argument, and statistics are not an excuse for refusing to see the obvious. I think the Beatles said it best “...living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see...”

charlieo1126@gmail.com 07-02-2020 09:03 AM
I have mixed thoughts of humor and fear thinking of lots of villages deputies taking about 5 minutes to get out of there golf cart then another 5 minutes to pull up there shorts and gun belt , during which time the perp has slowly walked away , over a 40 year period in 23 countries that were not very nice I used a gun, haven’t had one since I retired, at 81 I still go to Miami Beach in winter for a few months, walk everywhere, I still shoot dice in a couple of illegal dice games one in a black neighborhood in Orlando and I’m in my 5th home in villages and have never locked the door . Guns ???? Please leave them to professionals that can handle the adrenaline surge when your pointing it at a real person

Jacob85 07-02-2020 09:05 AM
Wow! So we are allowing untrained citizens to go out and maybe shoot someone they THINK is doing something? Even the police don’t always get it right. Are we going back to the wild, Wild West? I don’t think this is what our forefathers had in mind

Jacob85 07-02-2020 09:08 AM
So you need to fire a weapon that shoots multiple bullets To take care of an intruder? Let’s hope people don’t shoot their family members

Joe V. 07-02-2020 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by TexaninVA (Post 1796026)
Carthage must be destroyed"- Cato the Elder
If he had lived a few more years he would have seen his wish come true.

billethkid 07-02-2020 09:21 AM
How about a more realistic example to demonstrate the intent of the deputizing?

Half a dozen protestors are carrying torches up your drive way....are banging on the garage door and front door for you to open up or they are gonna burn your house down.

That is what is being discussed. Not shooting wildly at nothing for no reason...by incompetent aging residents.

When we, competent, trained, licensed gun owners, are discussing taking up arms it is for life threatening situations....not some derogatory anecdotal fluff.

BlackhawksFan 07-02-2020 09:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TexaninVA (Post 1796026)
The Sheriff of Clay County, FL, said he will "deputize every lawful gun owner" in his county to confront lawlessness and violent protests if need be.

This is what needs to happen across the country.

Sheriff to 'deputize lawful gun owners' to confront 'lawlessness' | Daily Mail Online
This woman in Michigan was most likely a "lawful gun owner" until the other day when she did this. She now faces multiple felonies.

Twitter

bobcat75 07-02-2020 09:25 AM
I like the way he thinks, as far as his personal life I don't think it has anything to do with protecting citizens under his care

billethkid 07-02-2020 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackhawksFan (Post 1796349)
This woman in Michigan was most likely a "lawful gun owner" until the other day when she did this. She now faces multiple felonies.

Twitter
A clip out of context.
Actually looks more like a set up/acted out video.
Very poorly done at that.

asianthree 07-02-2020 09:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mtdjed (Post 1796064)
Perhaps he wouldn't want some of us. He'd have a Posse of Barney Fifes. More self inflicted wounds than anything else. But no mass shootings since we would only have one bullet each.
Not to worry there are many in TV who carried a gun and had to use it to protect.

OhioBuckeye 07-02-2020 10:02 AM
Ohiobuckeye
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TexaninVA (Post 1796026)
The Sheriff of Clay County, FL, said he will "deputize every lawful gun owner" in his county to confront lawlessness and violent protests if need be.

This is what needs to happen across the country.

Sheriff to 'deputize lawful gun owners' to confront 'lawlessness' | Daily Mail Online
Sounds good but deputizing so-called lawful gun owners is pretty scary. What do some lawful citizens consider breaking the law or committing a crime. I’ve owned guns for 60 yrs. & what some gun owners think breaking the law is & being able to protect property, then shooting someone, I’m almost sure some of these unstable gun owners would start another protest! But then again it might be a good idea, even some nut case would think twice!

billethkid 07-02-2020 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye (Post 1796376)
Sounds good but letting but deputizing so-called lawful gun owners is pretty scary. What do some lawful citizens consider breaking the law or committing. I’ve owned guns for 60 yrs. & what some gun owners think breaking the law is & being able to protect property, then shooting someone, I’m almost sure some of these unstable gun owners would start another protest! But then again even some nut case would think twice!
My post 62 bears repeating:

How about a more realistic example to demonstrate the intent of the deputizing?

Half a dozen protestors are carrying torches up your drive way....are banging on the garage door and front door for you to open up or they are gonna burn your house down.

That is what is being discussed. Not shooting wildly at nothing for no reason...by incompetent aging residents.

When we, competent, trained, licensed gun owners, are discussing taking up arms it is for life threatening situations....not some derogatory anecdotal fluff.

Marty94 07-02-2020 10:07 AM
Looters
 
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I’m moving to Clay County!!

Scorpyo 07-02-2020 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1796259)
Most anti gunners view of guns and their owners is limited to what they see in the movies or their favorite biased news source.

They have no idea about the average responsible gun owner.

The experience they have. The rules by which they live for safety first.
The millions of responsible gun owners shooting millions and millions of rounds daily/weekly/monthly.....without incident.

Nahh....I forgot the anti gunners would not want to know about that.

Instead they prefer to paint the picture of a lawless bunch of old farts who have no idea what they are doing.

In the event of an emergency requiring lawful gun owners to respond the anti gunners will be damn glad we are here......in silence of course.

Funny how the message of the sheriff was glossed over, by some, to be replaced on an attack on his character.
Who you callin old fart? Meet me at Cody's Corral at high noon. Or is it high at Cody's at noon? Damn I need a nap.

Skoego 07-02-2020 10:24 AM
He looks like a piece of work...
 
FDLE launches criminal investigation into dealings of Sheriff Darryl Daniels, Clay County Sheriff'''s Office | firstcoastnews.com

charlieo1126@gmail.com 07-02-2020 10:29 AM
If your referring to a black leader
 
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Originally Posted by donassaid (Post 1796298)
I guess the Rev. Jeremiah Wright would call that the "chickens coming home to roost". My heart breaks for her.
using that quotation, in a political context Wright was not the man who made that statement famous, it was Malcom x , when asked about how he felt about Kennedy death he made the statement about chickens coming home to roost everyone was mad about it but Malcom though bluntly spoke the truth we had just conspired in the killing of the elected president of South Vietnam , I was in Saigon at the time , the 2 acts were not connected but in gone by times it was never good to kill a king because his people would try to kill your king , but maybe it’s just bad luck also to kill a king ( put president if you like)

forebubba 07-02-2020 10:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TexaninVA (Post 1796026)
The Sheriff of Clay County, FL, said he will "deputize every lawful gun owner" in his county to confront lawlessness and violent protests if need be.

This is what needs to happen across the country.

Sheriff to 'deputize lawful gun owners' to confront 'lawlessness' | Daily Mail Online
I would feel real safe with all the knucleheads out there carry guns. Remember Georgia killing a jogger they thought was a looter.

ffresh 07-02-2020 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by LoisR (Post 1796129)
Nuts. Real men don't need guns. They need a healthy ego.
Yeah, imagine meeting a gang of thugs at night while walking to the parking lot with your family. All you'll need is a healthy ego :1rotfl:


Fred

ffresh 07-02-2020 10:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1796259)
Most anti gunners view of guns and their owners is limited to what they see in the movies or their favorite biased news source.

They have no idea about the average responsible gun owner.

The experience they have. The rules by which they live for safety first.
The millions of responsible gun owners shooting millions and millions of rounds daily/weekly/monthly.....without incident.

Nahh....I forgot the anti gunners would not want to know about that.

Instead they prefer to paint the picture of a lawless bunch of old farts who have no idea what they are doing.

In the event of an emergency requiring lawful gun owners to respond the anti gunners will be damn glad we are here......in silence of course.

Funny how the message of the sheriff was glossed over, by some, to be replaced on an attack on his character.
Funny yes, surprising NO! These types revel in ad hominem attacks; facts are not arrows in their quiver :icon_wink:

Fred

ffresh 07-02-2020 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by newgirl (Post 1796261)
Terrifying!
Perhaps … to YOU.

Fred

justjim 07-02-2020 10:57 AM
Ridgerunner
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Get real (Post 1796074)
Political stunt. That knuckle head is under investigation by FDLE. Dope.
Sounds like he might be up for re-election. This will never happen and is just a lot of “smoke and tears”.

Dahabs 07-02-2020 11:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TexaninVA (Post 1796026)
The Sheriff of Clay County, FL, said he will "deputize every lawful gun owner" in his county to confront lawlessness and violent protests if need be.

This is what needs to happen across the country.

Sheriff to 'deputize lawful gun owners' to confront 'lawlessness' | Daily Mail Online
Yes, that'll take care of things. A bunch of happy and quick triggers to the rescue.:ohdear: Can just see the lawsuits piling up.

Bellavita 07-02-2020 11:18 AM
Criminal investigation into Clay County Sheriff'''s dealings now in hands of prosecutors | firstcoastnews.com

Just what we need a bunch of gun owners deputized like the wild west

TexaninVA 07-02-2020 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by newgirl (Post 1796266)
No, it only takes 1 crazy old fart who is giving the legal status to kill that would make the others regret getting involved. Not to mention liability.. the lawsuits .. insane idea
Have you considered that the deterrent value of having people actually resist and, if need be shoot, potential rioters would actually reduce the likelihood of a riot happening in the first place?

Out of curiosity, have you ever used, or been trained in the use of a handgun?

TexaninVA 07-02-2020 12:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com (Post 1796333)
I have mixed thoughts of humor and fear thinking of lots of villages deputies taking about 5 minutes to get out of there golf cart then another 5 minutes to pull up there shorts and gun belt , during which time the perp has slowly walked away , over a 40 year period in 23 countries that were not very nice I used a gun, haven’t had one since I retired, at 81 I still go to Miami Beach in winter for a few months, walk everywhere, I still shoot dice in a couple of illegal dice games one in a black neighborhood in Orlando and I’m in my 5th home in villages and have never locked the door . Guns ???? Please leave them to professionals that can handle the adrenaline surge when your pointing it at a real person
There are already a couple thousand well-trained and legal gun owners who belong to the Villages Straight Shooters Club ( Home ) and lots of people, including me, who train regularly at Shooters World. ( Indoor Shooting Range & Gun Store | Shooters World The Villages )

Many are retired military or law enforcement.

Bottom line: we have many living here who are qualified, and willing to serve if so asked and deputized.

billethkid 07-02-2020 12:18 PM
OK forget the guns, anti gun rhetoric and the sensationalizing "legalizing to kill" BS............

There are a bunch of people at your home pounding on the garage and front door of your house.....screaming for you to let them in or they will burn your house down.

What are YOU going to do about it?

Swoop 07-02-2020 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Snowprint (Post 1796331)
Since the police are in charge of the statistics, it’s not a valid argument, and statistics are not an excuse for refusing to see the obvious. I think the Beatles said it best “...living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see...”
So, since the actual facts don’t align with you feelings or perceptions, then the facts must be wrong...

cheweycat 07-02-2020 12:21 PM
That is insane!

sloanst 07-02-2020 12:35 PM
FINALLY, an abundance of guts and spine. Thank you Sheriff Darry Daniels for setting a wonderful standard.

santiagobob 07-02-2020 12:38 PM
lawful gun owners
 
We have seen just what happens when" lawful gun owners "decide that they don't like the black man out for a jog, so they kill him. We had over one mass shooting per day in 2019, do we want more??

Scorpyo 07-02-2020 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1796460)
OK forget the guns, anti gun rhetoric and the sensationalizing "legalizing to kill" BS............

There are a bunch of people at your home pounding on the garage and front door of your house.....screaming for you to let them in or they will burn your house down.

What are YOU going to do about it?
I put a social worker on my speed dial for situations such as this.

Scorpyo 07-02-2020 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1796463)
So, since the actual facts don’t align with you feelings or perceptions, then the facts must be wrong...
Facts are in the ear of the beholder.

Swoop 07-02-2020 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Scorpyo (Post 1796486)
Facts are in the ear of the beholder.
Fine, show me evidence of police systemic racism...

bpascani 07-02-2020 01:10 PM
where is Polk County

mjpuleo 07-02-2020 01:16 PM
Love Deputy Daniels. Every law enforcement officer should do the same! As far as his personal life accusations, who knows the real story--and who doesn't have a story to tell!!! He is doing his job and one thing has nothing to do with the other. That chapter in his life is over and he is doing good things now.

Sherry8bal 07-02-2020 01:19 PM
I totally agree with this Sheriff. These punks need to know that there are AMERICANS out there willing to protect their property and use force if needed. It's the only thing that is going to stop them.

Velvet 07-02-2020 01:21 PM
OP, I like the idea. There is so much lawlessness recently a strong and measured response is required. Sorry, criminals, you’re not taking over.

TexaninVA 07-02-2020 01:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1796460)
OK forget the guns, anti gun rhetoric and the sensationalizing "legalizing to kill" BS............

There are a bunch of people at your home pounding on the garage and front door of your house.....screaming for you to let them in or they will burn your house down.

What are YOU going to do about it?
Many on this board will apparently call a Social Worker ...

billethkid 07-02-2020 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by santiagobob (Post 1796477)
We have seen just what happens when" lawful gun owners "decide that they don't like the black man out for a jog, so they kill him. We had over one mass shooting per day in 2019, do we want more??
Total and complete insolent anti gun catharsis.

Sign of the times media extrapolation presentation of bias without basis!!!


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