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anothersteve 06-24-2020 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1791283)
Wow...just WOW! :oops:

Reading some of these posts, is there still a question on why our nation...is where it is, right now? :ohdear:

One can only hope, that the more extreme viewpoints are really..."a dying breed."

Make no mistake, that is NOT (unlike some other folks here, who feel differently and wish the worst for those that disagree with them), meant to mean...I wished certain people no longer lived.

I wouldn't, and have never, wished that...even on my worst enemy.

I just wish that their (remember, this applies ONLY to "some") extremist/vitriolic/hatred attitudes weren't so alive and I will continue to put my faith in the younger generations, who on the whole...have been shown to be less racist/judgemental/bigoted/Etc. than so many of their elders.

And yes, I fully expect and understand that there might be a 'couple' of folks who will vehemently disagree with my opinion(s)/viewpoint(s)...and level the personal attacks. :D

I'm ready though. :duck:


Personal attacks are not allowed.........

Steve

Barborv 06-25-2020 01:14 AM

These rioters, looters and so called protesters are leading the young clueless sheep to pasture. These groups like Antifa or BLM have a sole purpose. They are trying to lead the way to their New World Order! They want to change America the way they see it. They are slowly working their way into our school systems, our government, etc. America better wake up.

Aloha1 06-25-2020 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Lindsyburnsy (Post 1791275)
There is no Antifa, but there is a group of white men who are known as the Boogaloo Boys. They are known for wearing Hawaiian Shirts and communicate on social media to plan for anti-government disruption. A couple of them have already been arrested for killing cops recently. Thank goodness there is more than one source of media to fact check this information.

No Antifa?? Where have you been hiding out?

Bucco 06-25-2020 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Barborv (Post 1791377)
These rioters, looters and so called protesters are leading the young clueless sheep to pasture. These groups like Antifa or BLM have a sole purpose. They are trying to lead the way to their New World Order! They want to change America the way they see it. They are slowly working their way into our school systems, our government, etc. America better wake up.

You stopped short and never mentioned the groups that are the leaders in this movement and it ain't Anifa or BLM.

Byte1 06-25-2020 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1791079)
That's one NRA rationalization. They are just profiting off of male testosterone and bias. There are 10 other talking point rationalizations that someone will probably list. Bit, I appreciate that someone took the time to read and analyze my post. Thank you.

Hmmm, I suspect that quite a few female shooters could take exception to the insinuation that guys are the only citizens that appreciate firearms. The last time I was at the Ocala National Forest outdoor shooting range, I would guess that one out of four shooters were female. Please enlighten me; how does the NRA "profit" off of American citizens? I'm not a member, but I thought the NRA was an organization of shooting enthusiasts that champion the 2nd Amendment right and firearm marksmanship and safety.

"The National Rifle Association is America's longest-standing civil rights organization."

“NRA Foundation” is a 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organization.

Bucco 06-26-2020 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Guest
You stopped short and never mentioned the groups that are the leaders in this movement and it ain't Anifa or BLM.

ANTIFA and BLM are minor leaguers if anyone takes the time and really wants to know.

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-26-2020 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Guest
Hmmm, I suspect that quite a few female shooters could take exception to the insinuation that guys are the only citizens that appreciate firearms. The last time I was at the Ocala National Forest outdoor shooting range, I would guess that one out of four shooters were female. Please enlighten me; how does the NRA "profit" off of American citizens? I'm not a member, but I thought the NRA was an organization of shooting enthusiasts that champion the 2nd Amendment right and firearm marksmanship and safety.

"The National Rifle Association is America's longest-standing civil rights organization."

“NRA Foundation” is a 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organization.

That's how it was founded, and what its original mission was. It is currently one of the most powerful, influential, and profitable lobbyist organizations in the country. They fight against ANY restrictions on firearms - including universal background checks. In other words - all the criminals who have an extensive criminal history of gun violence - all the people who have violent histories but have not yet ever registered for gun ownership and are trying to do so now... the NRA supports NOT doing a background check to ensure that the guns aren't just being put into those hands.

They're basically saying "hey you - with the $250 permit fee written in nice neat letters on your check. Wanna buy a gun? Oh, you might have been arrested for beating all three of your previous wives? Nah don't worry about it. Just don't put that on the application form, we won't be checking you out anyway. Here. Have a gun, and a nice day."

That is the NRA in a nutshell, now. A far cry from what it once was.

Lindsyburnsy 06-26-2020 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ALadysMom (Post 1790329)
Last night I was trying to put myself in another’s shoes.

The shoes I tried on were worn with a blue shirt with a badge on it.

I thought about how demoralizing and bizarrely upside-down it must feel to have the ‘Big guys’ Like the Mayor or the Governor tell you to

arrest people who are trying to earn a living like shop owners & other people who aren’t wearing masks or staying 6 feet apart

AND then be told by those same decision makers

to stand-down & watch rioters & looters who are stealIng & destroying & endangering the future of entire communities, if not the nation

Crazy.

Gave me a whole new insight into their job requirements.

Would you rather be a police officer or an African American man?

Stu from NYC 06-26-2020 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Lindsyburnsy (Post 1792369)
Would you rather be a police officer or an African American man?

Why cant I be both?

Byte1 06-26-2020 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1792328)
That's how it was founded, and what its original mission was. It is currently one of the most powerful, influential, and profitable lobbyist organizations in the country. They fight against ANY restrictions on firearms - including universal background checks. In other words - all the criminals who have an extensive criminal history of gun violence - all the people who have violent histories but have not yet ever registered for gun ownership and are trying to do so now... the NRA supports NOT doing a background check to ensure that the guns aren't just being put into those hands.

They're basically saying "hey you - with the $250 permit fee written in nice neat letters on your check. Wanna buy a gun? Oh, you might have been arrested for beating all three of your previous wives? Nah don't worry about it. Just don't put that on the application form, we won't be checking you out anyway. Here. Have a gun, and a nice day."

That is the NRA in a nutshell, now. A far cry from what it once was.

Other than personal gun sales and family exchanges, ALL gun sales through a gun business/store requires a background check. I have frequented gun shows for years and always had to have a background check to purchase a gun. The only exception to that rule was when I had a CCW, which requires an extensive background and proof that one has the ability and knowledge of handling a gun safely.
I think that some folks like to believe that the NRA is the boogieman, but that is more likely just due to ignorance. I support the NRA even though I am not a member. They have done a lot of good. They have improved gun safety in schools and proficiency in law enforcement.

Byte1 06-26-2020 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Lindsyburnsy (Post 1792369)
Would you rather be a police officer or an African American man?

I've had the privilege of knowing ONE true AFRICAN American police officer, and quite a few Black police officers. It's funny how I never really thought of them as black or white officers. I based my opinion of the men and women solely upon their job performance. But, take a Black officer and have them patrol a black community and that officer is no longer considered Black, but BLUE and no different than a white police officer to that community.
Maybe if folks would stop worrying about semantics when it comes to race and just start thinking of themselves as Americans, then a lot of this stuff would cease. One does not refer to themselves as European Americans to refer to the color of one's skin. I have a son-in-law that is a REAL African by birth. He lives in America and does not use the term African American. He just says "American." I am not saying that one must give up their supposed "culture or heritage" if they really think they know what their true genealogy is. I do suggest that if one wants to be accepted by ALL, then they might think about assimilating into the American culture and heritage. And yes, American is different than European, even if we speak the same language..........sort of.

Byte1 06-27-2020 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1790922)
The Villages IS like a reservation. One last stop before HEAVEN or the wherever.

For some, I believe this is as close to heaven as they will ever get. Might as well enjoy it. For those that criticize this place, ain't America great?

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-27-2020 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1792430)
Other than personal gun sales and family exchanges, ALL gun sales through a gun business/store requires a background check. I have frequented gun shows for years and always had to have a background check to purchase a gun. The only exception to that rule was when I had a CCW, which requires an extensive background and proof that one has the ability and knowledge of handling a gun safely.
I think that some folks like to believe that the NRA is the boogieman, but that is more likely just due to ignorance. I support the NRA even though I am not a member. They have done a lot of good. They have improved gun safety in schools and proficiency in law enforcement.

The only background check required on a federal level is the NICS: National Instant Criminal (background check) System. This was originally presented as the Brady Bill, and was lobbied HEAVILY against by - your pals at the NRA. They spent millions to defeat it and succeeded in limiting its functionality.

The NRA is no friend to defense. They exist to push guns, period. They don't care who owns them. They used to. But they stopped caring decades ago and are now nothing more than a lobby for the gun manufacturing industry.

billethkid 06-27-2020 05:35 PM

Apparently, what the NRA needs is a black spokes person.....then all would be okie dokie....like taking over cities and looting and burning and destruction of property, killing each other.....et al!!

Kenswing 06-27-2020 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1793328)
Apparently, what the NRA needs is a black spokes person.....then all would be okie dokie....like taking over cities and looting and burning and destruction of property, killing each other.....et al!!

Here's a strong contender..


anothersteve 06-27-2020 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1793328)
Apparently, what the NRA needs is a black spokes person.....then all would be okie dokie....like taking over cities and looting and burning and destruction of property, killing each other.....et al!!

Colin Noir is the biggest black spokesperson for the NRA and gun rights.

YouTube

Steve

Kenswing 06-27-2020 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by anothersteve (Post 1793340)
Colin Noir is the biggest black spokesperson for the NRA and gun rights.

YouTube

Steve

Joe Rogan needs to lay off the weed. lol

Steve9930 06-27-2020 07:17 PM

When I was inducted into the service I took and oath to defend the Constitution of the United States of America from enemies both domestic and abroad. As far as I'm concerned that oath never expired. I may be older, a little slower but still capable of performing that duty. These groups are Domestic Terrorist as far as I'm concerned.

Bucco 06-27-2020 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve9930 (Post 1793375)
When I was inducted into the service I took and oath to defend the Constitution of the United States of America from enemies both domestic and abroad. As far as I'm concerned that oath never expired. I may be older, a little slower but still capable of performing that duty. These groups are Domestic Terrorist as far as I'm concerned.

Would be interesting to hear exactly who those groups might be.
I have only read two groups on here, as excluded are those who "use" those two.

anothersteve 06-27-2020 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve9930 (Post 1793375)
When I was inducted into the service I took and oath to defend the Constitution of the United States of America from enemies both domestic and abroad. As far as I'm concerned that oath never expired. I may be older, a little slower but still capable of performing that duty. These groups are Domestic Terrorist as far as I'm concerned.


Me also............................but............... ............
every American should adhere to that oath, whether sworn upon or not.
Steve

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-27-2020 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve9930 (Post 1793375)
When I was inducted into the service I took and oath to defend the Constitution of the United States of America from enemies both domestic and abroad. As far as I'm concerned that oath never expired. I may be older, a little slower but still capable of performing that duty. These groups are Domestic Terrorist as far as I'm concerned.

I don't know which of "these" groups you're referring to but...it really doesn't matter. As far as you're concerned, it isn't your place to decide. They are, or are not, domestic terrorists that need you to defend us from, when and if they are decreed by someone of a higher pay scale than you had when you took that oath, to be domestic terrorists. Until then, stand down, or you will BE that domestic terrorist you are claiming to defend us against.

anothersteve 06-27-2020 09:42 PM

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deleted because the mods deleted a post I was responding to

I hate when they do that!

Steve

Number 10 GI 06-28-2020 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1792328)
That's how it was founded, and what its original mission was. It is currently one of the most powerful, influential, and profitable lobbyist organizations in the country. They fight against ANY restrictions on firearms - including universal background checks. In other words - all the criminals who have an extensive criminal history of gun violence - all the people who have violent histories but have not yet ever registered for gun ownership and are trying to do so now... the NRA supports NOT doing a background check to ensure that the guns aren't just being put into those hands.

They're basically saying "hey you - with the $250 permit fee written in nice neat letters on your check. Wanna buy a gun? Oh, you might have been arrested for beating all three of your previous wives? Nah don't worry about it. Just don't put that on the application form, we won't be checking you out anyway. Here. Have a gun, and a nice day."

That is the NRA in a nutshell, now. A far cry from what it once was.

Wow, the misinformation in this post.

Number 10 GI 06-28-2020 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1791186)
What I understand is that ANY problem can be solved IF large resources ($) and expertise and time are devoted to it. That's why the US was 1st to the moon. (Note : in a time when the tax law did NOT favor the rich who stop it circulating by putting it in Swiss bank accounts). Today, with respect to the problem of auto-loading military-style rifles, IF--IF the rich profiteering gun manufacturers (that take your $ on their high margin m-style weapons) were to STOP manufacturing THOSE and the Police had the resources ($) to do BUY-BACKS it would WORK. Society would have to pony up the big bucks, YES. Don't forget that Police are the ones NOT killed by single-shot and bolt action (used by hunters). The Police who sat down and thought about it would LIKE the idea of those BUY-BACKS. Matter of fact they do NOW, but don't have enough $ to buy enough from the marginal criminals, who would gladly sell them and go back to being pick-pockets as...like maybe 1940 or so. PS...single shots and bolt are LOWER margin weapons.

Have you forgot about the "War on Drugs" that used millions of dollars, time and effort that hasn't cut the demand for drugs one bit? You totally ignore the fact that organized crime will provide the guns criminals need to commit crime. The number of shootings involving AR and AK rifles is miniscule when compared to the total shootings in the U.S. As I posted earlier far more people are killed with hammers than with rifles. If you check you will find the majority of police officers are not in favor of banning military style rifles.

Number 10 GI 06-28-2020 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1793379)
Would be interesting to hear exactly who those groups might be.
I have only read two groups on here, as excluded are those who "use" those two.

You keep talking about these groups that use BLM and ANTIF as a smokescreen, who are they? Present some believable information sources that support your contention.

Steve9930 06-28-2020 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1793414)
I don't know which of "these" groups you're referring to but...it really doesn't matter. As far as you're concerned, it isn't your place to decide. They are, or are not, domestic terrorists that need you to defend us from, when and if they are decreed by someone of a higher pay scale than you had when you took that oath, to be domestic terrorists. Until then, stand down, or you will BE that domestic terrorist you are claiming to defend us against.

Those groups have already made their intentions known. I would much rather die defending this country then live under what is being proposed. It is exactly what that oath meant.

Steve9930 06-28-2020 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 1793768)
You keep talking about these groups that use BLM and ANTIF as a smokescreen, who are they? Present some believable information sources that support your contention.

Media Matters: Run by George Soros
Black Lives Matter Global Fund Network: Run by 3 Marxist ladies.
Thousand Currents: Run by a far left gentleman out in California.
ANTIFA: Just have to watch and listen to the people that represent the movement.
Color of Change.

If you want links to the people I would gladly provide them but it will be deleted I'm sure. Reasearch those organizations, follow the money. Read their platform.

Bikeracer2009 06-28-2020 07:43 PM

The guy yelling "white supremacist" from his golf cart is all over the news today.

Maybe this will be more than food for thought.

I hope that guy is proud of his racism. If things get crazy around here we'll know who to thank.

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-28-2020 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bikeracer2009 (Post 1794098)
The guy yelling "white supremacist" from his golf cart is all over the news today.

Maybe this will be more than food for thought.

I hope that guy is proud of his racism. If things get crazy around here we'll know who to thank.

We'll thank him, and everyone who supports him, and everyone who agrees with him, and everyone who lets him continue behaving that way.

He's not the only one. He's just one of the more vocal ones, apparently.

Steve9930 06-28-2020 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bikeracer2009 (Post 1794098)
The guy yelling "white supremacist" from his golf cart is all over the news today.

Maybe this will be more than food for thought.

I hope that guy is proud of his racism. If things get crazy around here we'll know who to thank.

So the woman shouting a four letter word at everyone is acceptable? When you yell obscenities at someone who you don't know there is no idea what will comeback. THe whole thing was despicable. I'm sure her grandchildren are proud. She is all over the internet.

Kenswing 06-28-2020 09:00 PM

That video would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad.. There's plenty for both sides to hang their heads in shame for..
Seniors Protesting Hilarious - YouTube

anothersteve 06-28-2020 09:06 PM

The "other side" from my perspective, (the video) were the instigators. Poor guy, everyone, was provoked all around.
Steve

Steve9930 06-28-2020 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 1794125)
That video would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad.. There's plenty for both sides to hang their heads in shame for..
Seniors Protesting Hilarious - YouTube

Not very smart. Her name and location is now known all over the internet. I'm sure her Grandchildren and her children are so proud of her behavior. The whole thing was despicable behavior. At this age you would think people would have mellowed a bit.

Number 10 GI 06-28-2020 09:19 PM

Totally disgusting behavior from people who should be old enough to know better. Real trash mouths.

Steve9930 06-28-2020 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 1794132)
Totally disgusting behavior from people who should be old enough to know better. Real trash mouths.

That video will exist long after all these people are gone. The internet lives forever.

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-28-2020 09:30 PM

Vulgarities don't bother me - I have a trash mouth, even though I don't use it quite as generously. I get that it bothers people though, which is why I don't use it quite as generously. I respect that these words are not appreciated by certain people, so I keep it to myself when in mixed company. But posters here who are more upset about vulgarities than they are someone yelling "white power?" That bothers me. That bothers me greatly.

ejp52 06-28-2020 09:40 PM

:welcome:

Number 10 GI 06-28-2020 09:40 PM

People that use that kind of language in public are trash and have no more morals than a mongrel dog. I spent a career in the Army and I have heard and used every cuss word there is but never in public. People that use that kind of language in public show how low class they are.

ejp52 06-28-2020 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Keeferinspace (Post 1791139)
This might be a good place to ask where the closest shooting range is. Is there a gun club in The Villages? I don’t own a firearm but want to purchase one. It’s been over 30 years since I picked up a weapon—Marine Corps. Would enjoy picking up the hobby again.

Home Gun club.

Indoor Shooting Range & Gun Store | Shooters World The Villages

:welcome:

ColdNoMore 06-28-2020 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1794142)
Vulgarities don't bother me - I have a trash mouth, even though I don't use it quite as generously. I get that it bothers people though, which is why I don't use it quite as generously. I respect that these words are not appreciated by certain people, so I keep it to myself when in mixed company.

But posters here who are more upset about vulgarities than they are someone yelling "white power?"

That bothers me.

That bothers me greatly
.

Ditto. :oops:


And at 1:17 when someone says "racist pig" and another person responds with "I resemble that remark and love it."


Not exactly a great way to negate the stereotype of what so many think...describes The Villages.
:ohdear:


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